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- mbabauer, on 10/12/2007, -7/+29@flag564
Well, for one, I do agree with you...slightly. The huge jump we saw yesterday is just a knee-jerk reaction. BUT, AAPL has been upgraded to a "Strong Buy" by several firms, their numbers are looking good, plus an announcement like "We just made a KILLER product" is enough to make the stock 'naturally' go up anyhow. I expect it to re-adjust down some, but I also expect it to continue a natural climb after it does. Can't say so much for my SBUX stock, however.
Don't be a hater just because you don't have the funds to "day trade" AAPL stock. - tito13kfm, on 10/12/2007, -2/+18The Digg Effect On Cheap Webhosts.
- ashmodai, on 10/12/2007, -2/+15@flag:
If you have "man-hands" you're not a Mac user anyway, all of us true believers have fine-boned metrosexual fingers. - baxtermaddux, on 10/12/2007, -5/+18@ gigaquack
if everyone thought like you, we would all still be playing phonographic cylinders, and wearing top hats - DarkSideofMoon, on 10/12/2007, -6/+18@flag564
... and what does that have to do with blending?
Or are you just trying to get a good 'digg up / digg down' position at the top of the page?
Honestly, don't abuse the system... - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+14Blackberries are too ingrained on the corporate identity to be replaced by a phone without a real keyboard.
- ngonzales80, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8I sold all my AAPL after the iPhone announcment and bought RIMM at 131.50 hoping for the rebound. 7% yesterday and hoping fore the same today!
- Lynn, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5@madogvelkor
The Chocolate is $99. I do not see many people jumping over to a $500-$600 phone. - SNIa, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Google Finance:
http://finance.google.com/finance?q=rimm%2C+aapl%2C+palm&hl=en - MakinBacon, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7@ flag
If this is a normal occurence when a new product is announced, can you please show me the spike that the Zune made on the stock market when it was announced? How about the spike on the day/week it was released? I'll tell you the result... it was non-existent... and yet you posted a dozen stories about how amazing that product is.
Now if you were to say that this is a normal occurence when a new, exciting and innovative product is released, then I would agree with you. Except you are too busy calling the iPhone the next "Hindenburg" to actually realize how potentially great it is. - flag564, on 10/12/2007, -10/+15No stylus, no keyboard. How are supposed to do real work with this?
Not to mention if you have "man hands". - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -6/+10Two things worry me about the announcements yesterday.
1 the apple tv got hardly any fanboy screams of joy. It doesn't do anything that excites me. It looks like a flop.
2 the iphone tries to do too many things at once. It seems to go against apples own philosophy of simple. If apple had stopped with the ipod + phone and had about a 30 gig hdd, it would have sold big. But as steve kept going on with the internet device features, people lost their excitement. Apple needs to offer a cheaper iphone with everything but the lame internet connectivity bloat. I don't give a rip about surfing the web with such a slow and small device. It should be a $350 gadget that sticks to being a phone and an ipod.
I think apple is one of many tech companies with a vastly over valued stock price. Don't be surprised when there is a market correction soon - right along the lines of the first tech bubble. - shuffle, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I agree about the innovation remark - but I tend to agree. Blackberries do what they do very well...
- sparkrainfir, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4@macmcrae
i couldn't agree with you more. while the apple phone is waayyy cool. i can't see myself buying one. i was holding out to get a cell phone until macworld because of the rumors. i'm an average consumer i wanted ipod+phone i don't need widgets, e-mail, safari, yadda yadda - thegreyfox, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5funny thing. that dent at around 12:15is wash caused by a few sites that misquoted Steve Jobs. He said: "thats all we will talk about Macs today." but for some reason it was written as" it will be all about Macs today", causing the stock to trade down for a few minutes.
- yabos, on 10/12/2007, -4/+7@flag
Actually AAPL usually goes down after Macworld because usually the rumors aren't true and the day after it goes down after that. It's gone up $10 or so in 2 days which never happens. - MyDocuments, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4"Silly day traders trying to make a quick buck and panic sellers too stupid to be in the market to start with. Oh, can you please post the graph as it goes back to where it was before, or is it likely that it wont reach the front page?"
Do us all a favor. Go to http://finance.yahoo.com/charts/ and then type in AAPL. Click on the 5yr timeline and then please shut up. Here, I'll make it a bit easier for you.
http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/3039/aaplyo6.jpg - djdole, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Ditto there mbabauer,
Bought in at 70.39. BooYah! :-] - mandrsn1, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5Jobs said he hoped for 1% market share by mid 2008 -- which is 10 million units. BenQ just dropped out of the phone market despite having 2.4% market share.
I will be interesting seeing apple play "catch-up" to the market which they never have had to do with a product before. - ArizonaKid, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3At this point it appears to be standard market speculation. Investors have been waiting for an Apple branded iPhone to be released for a long time, and this addresses their request. However, only the market will tell if the iPhone is able to take sales from RIM. I don't believe it will.
However that does not mean the iPhone will not be a huge success. The WSJ reported smart phones are only 5% of the market. This is an area that has room for growth, and perhaps the iPhone could be the catalyst that helps transition more users to smart phones.
I have a hard time seeing RIM sales being drasically affected by Apple's iPhone. At least as the market speculates as a 8% drop. RIM is too entreached in the corporate market (edit, just saw the post above :) ) and has excellent use with Lotus Notes and Exchange. Additionally, BlackBerry devices will continue to incorporate media features, and it has to be added that BlackBerrys are availible across virtually all manufacturers. There are many users who will not switch carriers because of a phone. - tacojohn, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Bought in at $40 boo ya!
- bbear, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Because those of us who own the other phones know how much they suck.
- vagarach, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2It's always 'worth watching the market', especially when firms release products, announce delays, etc. Apple is no different. Yes, *apple* announced THE iPhone, and now RIM/Palm/everyotherphonemaker is supposedly quaking in their boots, including their shareholders, supposedly. Riiiiiiight.
edit: oh and throw Nokia into the mix as well, just for fun, gotta mention one of the world's largest phone makers. - vhold, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I just hope that this lights a fire under Palm's, RIMM's and Microsoft's collective asses. I haven't upgraded from my el-cheapo phone yet to any of the new platforms because none of them are really compelling to me. They all could deliver a product cheaper then Apple. If they don't get their acts together, when the iPhone drops below $200 it's going to decimate them.
- noahhoward, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3A huge dose of arsenic would do better for him.
- madogvelkor, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3I don't see the iPhone being limited to the smartphone segment of the market. I'm sure all those people who are buying phones like the Chocolate, KRZR, etc. will jump all over the iPhone.
- madogvelkor, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I'm sort of surprised that RIMM and Palm took such a big hit from the news. While I think the iPhone is going to be a big hit, I don't see it dominating the corporate market like the other two do. For one thing, I can't imagine how I'd justify the expense with such prominent entertainment features. Sure, other smartphones can do the same, but they aren't marketed that way...
If anything, it should be Motorola and LG who are worried the most since they have the trendiest phones out right now. Perhaps their other products are insulating them from the news... - darkamster07, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1yeah I bought in at 70$ a little while back because I could see an upward trend, I have 20 shares, good news. I love Apple and the iPhone
- GrayV, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1It certainly won't affect RIM in the short term but a sensitive market will react like this. If enough people act in a certain way there's often money to be lost in trying to buck the trend.
BlackBerry have too much going for them (battery life, security, 'proper' email & business applications) to see this as significant competition but they themselves took a step into the consumer world with the Pearl which will compete with the iPhone in some people's eyes.
I think there's room for everyone, it's a big enough market and if Apple come in and do some stuff that's good enough it'll raise the bar for everyone else - but some of the stories that I've read/heard already are just filled with stupid enthusiasm...
Apparently "on the iPhone you can have ANY tune as your ringtone and ANY picture as your wallpaper." Um, wow. - Jomwilli, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=AAPL&t=5d&l=on&z=l&q=l&c=
5 Day look - longboarder543, on 10/12/2007, -5/+6@flag,
The zune may not be able to make phone calls, but at least you can record the message on your computer, copy it to the zune, go to the 1 person you know who has a zune, and send the message to them via wifi. Couldn't be easier. - saichele, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1still, if you're Rim or Palm, that's gotta feel like you've been reemed / slapped.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3
News this morning of the Apple mobile phone is going to mess with the mobile market. Among other things, it is worth watching how mobile competitors' stocks perform on the news:
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/130/351904060_cda6bf4f05_o.gif
The gist of the Apple phone: It's a large-screen touch phone (no physical keypad) with 8.0 GB of storage, no stylus, and running Mac OS X. It's also quad-band GSM + EDGE phone, not 3G, but it does have WiFi.
The obvious immediate question will be battery life, of course, not to mention how many people will find a key-less phone something of a non-starter. How do you use such things by touch? Inquiring minds want to know. Looks like a June ship date and a $599 price, so this is definitely high-end stuff. - halik, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1FYI,
consensus is around $100 a share for AAPL, mostly buy http://finance.yahoo.com/q/ao?s=AAPL
in comparisom, RIMM consensus is $160 (strong upside) http://finance.yahoo.com/q/ao?s=RIMM - djdole, on 10/12/2007, -4/+5@mbabauer
To be fair, technically you don't need to "have the funds" to trade, you just need to be able to accept the risk of buying on margin.
(Which if you screw up could lose you as much as you'de have to gain from trading on margin.) - sputza, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I'm not sure why RIMM's stock dropped the most. Companies like PALM should have dropped much more since their products are more comparable to the iPhone.
iPhone does not equal a Blackberry in so many respects. - jakebarnes, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Tax deductions.
- noahhoward, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1There are nice bluetooth virtual keyboards as well but I highly doubt it will be nessecary.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2@flag564
Have you considered a huge dose of Ex-Lax? It might improve your personality. - CptZap, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1How long do you think it will take before a keyboard is made to connect to the iPhone using the 30-pin connector at the bottom? Maybe one that clips onto the iPhone and slides in and out.
Probably within a month of its release. - vertinox, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2@ngonzales80
Bah. I sold my AAPL and bought shares of SCO. ;) - stacky, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2See the spike at around 1.45pm? It was soaring, then Jobs dropped the bombshells: Locked to Cingular, $499-$599, June ship-date. As you can see, the stock then took a turn for the worse
- rhypo, on 09/09/2008, -0/+0i personally think the iphone is a good phone, and now with the growth of admob you can advertise your business or something on them, trough banner/text ads. there is an ebook that tells you all about this: http://www.mobilecashsystem.com
- mobileinfo, on 09/08/2008, -0/+0iPhone also come with best offers. thats why most of people like to buy it.
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- EvanA, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Rimm got hit so hard in part because their stock was trading at 72x multiple, crazy even for tech stocks (googles at 60x or so). The other reason is that their biggest hit has been their recent foray into more consumer based mobile products like the pearl, which I was huge fan of until seeing the iPhone. Granted the pearl is half the cost of the iphone, but the iphone blows it out of the water and falls in the same competitive market.
- EvanA, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Rimm took a big hit in part because they were completely over-valued. True smart phones are only 5% of the market, but the iphone is really creating a new market. I would way rather pay $600 for a device that functions well as a phone, email, photo storage, media player, internet device, and ipod than less for devices that didn't do any of those things nearly as well. There's really no single device that does anything close to what the iphone does. And though you may hate Apple, you have to admit the interface is pretty well put together. I mean how many times have you had to scroll through your entire phone list to find a friend. With the iphone you can just list them under favorites. It took this long for someone to figure out 90% of your calls are to 10 people?! And that's not even one of the hyped features of the thing. Oh yeah, I made a killing on Apple stock.
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