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- Livewired, on 11/14/2007, -1/+113We all knew things were going this way. I'm excited about long battery life, less heat, and let noise. Goodbye stupid crashing platters/heads!
- martinc00, on 11/12/2007, -1/+51You could fit 64BG worth of data ACTUALLY!
- happytedium, on 11/13/2007, -6/+53Can't wait until these are bigger. 64 GB isn't really enough for people buying MacBook Pros. Pretty awesome though (especially that boot video!)
- Saiing, on 11/14/2007, -3/+40My Mac Pro boot isn't much slower than that. I was a bit disappointed to be honest.
- chongli, on 11/13/2007, -1/+36This is because Leopard doesn't spend a whole lot of time reading from the drive during boot. Windows, on the other hand, had a huge boot time boost (from 1:45 to 0:30) which seems to indicate that it does a lot of reading from the drive.
- AlmostEvil, on 11/13/2007, -1/+30Because there is only space inside the MBP for a single hard drive.
- toetagger, on 11/12/2007, -6/+34Who reboots their Mac anyway?
- Shorties, on 11/14/2007, -0/+24Well also consider the fact that he was running a 1st gen Macbook pro, when I first got my 2.4 SR Macbook pro it booted in about 25 seconds so I can't imagine how fast it would be. Also notice how there was no OSX loading screen (White box with little blue bar, lasts like 2 seconds on mine) I think a lot of the boot time was held back by the BIOS (Or EFI or whatever it is) loading before the OS.
- ipodgr, on 11/12/2007, -1/+24Sick .... I want that too !
This should be definitely a nice experience - Tippis, on 11/11/2007, -0/+23It's a better benchmark of HD speed since it actually uses the HD more...
- Dan2552, on 11/13/2007, -0/+19Anyone tried booting a virtual PC where the HDD is mounted inside your RAM? Now that's fast.
- abandonedhero, on 11/13/2007, -2/+19*they're
- sirber, on 11/12/2007, -0/+17Another limitation is that flash memory has a finite number of erase-write cycles (most commercially available flash products are guaranteed to withstand 100,000 write-erase-cycles for block 0, and no guarantees for other blocks[citation needed]). This effect is partially offset by some chip firmware or file system drivers by counting the writes and dynamically remapping the blocks in order to spread the write operations between the sectors; this technique is called wear levelling. Another mechanism is to perform write verification and remapping to spare sectors in case of write failure, which is named bad block management (BBM). With these mechanisms in place, some industry analysts[1] have calculated that flash memory can be written to at full speed continuously for 51 years before exceeding its write endurance, even if such writes frequently cause the entire memory to be overwritten.
from wiki - rebotfc, on 11/12/2007, -1/+17I might be blind but from the picture it looks like his optical drive is still there and he just changed the HDD. I'm not that familiar with the MacBook Pro internals tho.
- crammaz, on 11/13/2007, -0/+14Although if you want to get serious google removing the optical drive and installing a new HD... it can be done :P
- TVarmy, on 11/13/2007, -1/+12It's 1,000,000 writes to the same spot. He needs to keep the drive very close to full. These drives are smart about not writing to the same spot twice until they need to.
- cgreentx, on 11/12/2007, -0/+11I tried out the 32GB SSD in my Dell Latitude D630 with both XP and Vista. Blazing fast boot/resume times, and generally unparalleled access times, but it consistently went into a state of hitting the drive and bogging down the system anytime it did heavy Random I/O Writing. This seemed to happen every 10-15 minutes in Outlook which defeated the entire benefit of the drive. I returned it to Dell and got my $600 back.
SSD is the future, but its not here yet. Maybe this generation from this review is one step closer though.... I certainly hope it gets here soon as every generation brings the cost one step closer to reality! - aussieNickuss, on 11/14/2007, -1/+11Actually the Mac OS X loading screen doesn't appear in Leopard anymore. It boots straight from the grey screen to the desktop (or to the login window) now. At least it has on the few machines I have got Leopard running on (MacBook, Mac Pro & iBook [not all mine =( tho]).
- kaiwai, on 11/12/2007, -1/+11Whats 'huh' about it - there are a limited number of writes; it just doesn't have the same level of reliability as hard disks - do a bit of reading, wiki is your friend.
- Scaryclouds, on 11/12/2007, -0/+10Same here I wasn't too impressed with the boot video. My MBP (SR 2.2) takes ~0:30 to load.
- RockinRoel, on 11/13/2007, -0/+10Well... on the international Dell site a Dell XPS M1330 with 64GB SSD (as opposed to 120GB 5400 rpm HD) is $1,000 extra, at a total of $2,099.
So just interchange the HDs and sell the Dell on eBay. - inactive, on 11/12/2007, -3/+12I don't understand why you're getting buried. Unless there is something about this particular drive that differentiates it from standard Flash drives, this is a very valid concern.
- RockinRoel, on 11/11/2007, -1/+10Do some research first, please. I just configured a Dell XPS M1330 to have a 64GB SSD for €1765.81, that's €786.80 more than the standard configuration with 120GB 5400 rpm HD. That's in The Netherlands. I don't know if I can put it on US. I'm Belgian and it didn't go to the Belgian store, odd.
- sleze, on 11/12/2007, -16/+25Will this guy be so excited after 1,000,000 writes to the drive (like disk swapping) kill his harddrive? Flash drives and non-embedded OS's don't mix until they fix that limitation. His drive will be dead in 5 months.
- chingy1788, on 11/13/2007, -0/+9I'd get SSD but they cost an arm and a leg, and maybe an eyeball
- luchid, on 11/12/2007, -1/+9How is he showing off the iphone? He just used it to time the boot up. Go away...
- DocDEB, on 11/13/2007, -1/+9Somebody will yank the superdrive, install a second SSD and configure both in a raid 0. SSDs >100GB are likely not far away but will cost a bunch.
- tomis, on 11/11/2007, -0/+8MacBook takes 22 seconds to boot on 10.5 for me. So it would appear SSD isn't going to give you any speed gains during bootup. But the battery savings will probably be rather nice. A battery life comparison would have been appreciated. Just charge up the battery, have a program that continuously streams data to/from the drive, see how long it goes. How hard can that be?
- zweben, on 11/12/2007, -1/+8Why do people care about boot times anyway? I don't shut my computer down unless i'm doing a software update... they wake up from sleep in less than a second.
- oneoverzero, on 11/12/2007, -0/+7The prices will go down, the capacities will go up, and they will last longer.
Now, if a bunch of people buy them now this will happen sooner... but it will happen regardless - cgreentx, on 11/11/2007, -0/+7You are not a target for an SSD. Most mobile users don't need more than an OS, some apps, and business DATA. Those users can usually live with 30-40GB. 64GB is a luxury. As an IT Consultant even I could live well within 64GB and carry all my "crap" an an external. Most of my techs have 40GB or smaller drives.
- RockinRoel, on 11/13/2007, -1/+8According to Sicko, it would cost 8 times less than getting the top of your ring finger reattached.
- kaiwai, on 11/11/2007, -0/+7Same, I was expecting sub 10 second load times, almost instant boot like an embedded OS like QNX.
- KMartSheriff, on 11/14/2007, -1/+7Am I the only one that wants to punch a baby when they hear the word 'puter?
- cgreentx, on 11/11/2007, -0/+6Drive light on solid. System unresponsive. I did a ton of research on them, spoke with third tier Dell support and with Sandisk. All confirmed this to be a normal down-side of SSD. Random I/O writes are dog slow on them, and some apps (particularly outlook with very large mail databases) seem to bog down the entire system when using them.
http://www.storagesearch.com/easyco-flashperforman ... - grieks, on 11/11/2007, -0/+6I don't think this technology is going to drop off the face of the planet just because people are waiting for larger capacities and better prices.
- iNunchuk, on 11/15/2007, -1/+7Spotlight is probably orgasmic on this!
- fanboydcs, on 11/13/2007, -1/+6firewire..not usb, ugg not usb!
- rebotfc, on 11/12/2007, -4/+9This is ridiculously cool, any chance I can change the optical drive in my MB Pro for one of these?
- MxM111, on 11/12/2007, -0/+5Sorry for the ignorance, but what is the typical time with usual HD on apple laptops?
- oneoverzero, on 11/13/2007, -0/+4They exist now. 128gb for 4000 dollars last i checked
- heynoop, on 11/12/2007, -0/+4er, my C2D MBP boots about as fast as this video shows. I was watching the video thinking 'thats not much of an improvement...' then again I don't know what this guy's old boot time was.
- sr3yas, on 11/11/2007, -0/+4Better, Faster, Stronger? Sounds like an email I got today, google put it in the spam box
- DarkDx, on 11/11/2007, -1/+5Finally, one of the biggest bottlenecks in the PCs is OUT. I'm so excited.
- fuzzmeister, on 11/11/2007, -0/+4Flash memory uses algorithms to spread out the "wear and tear" over all of the chips, so it will last much longer.
- Cruelapollo, on 11/13/2007, -0/+4Yeah, I hated that city. Rock Pokemon screwed my Pikachu up.
- speedwank, on 11/11/2007, -2/+6[drool] [slobber]
I want one of these so badly it's unhealthy!! - JustAboutReal, on 11/13/2007, -0/+3luckily, when an SSD drive "dies," you can still read the data, even though you can't write to it anymore!
- Salgat, on 11/12/2007, -0/+3You essentially get the equivalent of a full format 100,000 times. Last time I checked, we don't even come close to that number in use.
- Tenoq, on 11/14/2007, -0/+3We're used to Windows and Linux machines that struggle either struggle to run for a long period of time without crashing/leaking memory/BSODing or struggle to go into 'sleep' mode at all due to funky-ass drivers.
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