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- natedouglas, on 10/28/2007, -6/+87"1. Leopard works fine on old machines as long as they're not too old."
Most worthless paragraph ever. "Girls are pretty hot as long as they're not ugly."
"5. Leopard is the only way you can dual-boot Windows on your Mac."
Eh... I haven't seen anything to indicate that previously-existing dual-boot setups would stop working just because the assistant does.
"6. Leopard probably will work with your applications."
http://guides.macrumors.com/List%3AApplications_No ... might be a useful resource for some, even though it's on MacRumors, which possesses quite possibly the largest idiot:normal person ratio of any site anywhere on the web.
"7. If you use your Mac every day you should upgrade now."
Um, no. If you're a pro, you should wait until you're sure it doesn't ***** everything up. But then, if you're a pro, you probably know that already. - sockpuppets, on 10/28/2007, -2/+34I did and now there's a tear in the space/time continuum in my living room. Use caution.
- QuorumCall, on 10/28/2007, -2/+26I think the author should look into investing in a larger spacebar first.
- HunterTV, on 10/28/2007, -0/+15Does it have a blue glow around it or a yellow glow?
- DPowers08, on 10/28/2007, -0/+13"Veteran Windows users probably won't change their minds about switching"
Don't know why you'd need to know this before upgrading. "Alright, before you upgrade, remember that some people have chosen not to use OS X." - DJCult, on 10/29/2007, -2/+15Apparently, it destroys classic support. I NEEDS my Deus Ex.
- DrunkenSavior, on 10/28/2007, -3/+14Do I test fate and update my 733 G4?
- dalesmatrix, on 10/29/2007, -6/+17Actually I think one of the things you need to know when upgrading is how to get past the blue screen during an upgrade install...
1. Reboot into single-user mode (hold Cmd-S while booting machine)
2. Follow the directions OSX gives you when you get to the prompt (I think these were them - just type the two commands it tells you to):
fsck -fy /
/sbin/mount -uw /
3. Remove the following files:
rm -rf /Library/Preference Panes/Application Enhancer.prefpane
rm -rf /Library/Frameworks/Application Enhancer.framework
rm -rf /System/Library/SystemConfiguration/Application Enhancer.bundle
rm -rf /Library/Preferences/com.unsanity.ape.plist
4. Exit, to continue booting normally
exit
worked a treat - inactive, on 10/27/2007, -1/+11Dalesmatrix apparently has some third party hacks installed (APE being one of them).
- fowleryo, on 10/27/2007, -0/+7ugh, i totally agree with everything you said, right down to the idiot/normal person ratio. even as a lifetime mac user, i'm blown away buy the general retardation that runs rampant at macrumors.
- cesclaveria, on 10/27/2007, -0/+7we are talking about core 2 duo, that it is a 64bit architecture.
- supermanred, on 10/27/2007, -0/+6It does seem to run faster, and I did an upgrade not a clean install. I think it handles the core duo better.
- natedouglas, on 10/28/2007, -2/+8Go for it :-)
- RoamShell, on 10/27/2007, -0/+6I don't get why you're being dugg down, all you said was "I really like what they're doing with ichat" and went into more detail.
- Firehed, on 10/27/2007, -3/+8Hm... I just put the disc in, rebooted, and waited about an hour. Done.
- archstant0n, on 10/27/2007, -1/+6I love that one of the windows in the screen shot is "10 Ways Dick Cheney Can Kill You".
- NeoRicen, on 10/27/2007, -0/+5You're right on 5, If you have Tiger and have done BootCamp and you're running Windows you'll be fine. If you have Tiger and haven't done a BootCamp install yet, you're too late.
You only need Leopard for BootCamp if you haven't done it yet. - djh816, on 10/28/2007, -0/+4you'd need to crack it if you do. 800mhz min. (you can do it though)
- deadbaby, on 10/28/2007, -0/+4If you're using the original Rage 128 graphics card I wouldn't do it. Grab a cheap ATI 7500 MAC card off ebay for $20 first or you're going to run into problems with TimeMachine, DVD Player, etc. (they use more advanced OpenGL rendering than the Rage could ever dream of supporting) Other than that it should be fine. Cram as much RAM as you can in there.
- enzomedici, on 10/27/2007, -0/+4You should know that some Unix commands are not the same. "ps -aux" no longer exists like other BSD standards. It is now "ps -ef" ala System V. I guess this is part of the Unix certification.
- dacheetah, on 10/27/2007, -0/+4If the Macs bootcamp thing really works (I havn't tried it) then you should be able to run the PC version of Deus Ex easy.
Good game BTW, I just finished it for the first time about a week ago. Given when the game was made, it was way ahead of it's time. - TheMidnight, on 10/29/2007, -0/+4I saw one on Steve Ballmer's ass right before he sodomized me with Windows Vista. I bought a MacBook Pro after that.
- manitoba98xp, on 10/27/2007, -3/+7Let's have a moment of silence for those poor souls. :P
- MacParrot, on 10/29/2007, -1/+5You should be OK with that. I just installed it on a 933Mhz iBook and while it took a bit longer to install than previous versions, everything SEEMS to be working. One thing I did notice and I don't know if it's my settings or general "we'll get it right with the first update", but on waking from sleep, it now doesn't automatically see my wireless network. No problem with it under Tiger.
- sneeka2, on 10/27/2007, -3/+6I actually bought and installed it yesterday evening and tried the first Software Update before Apple had the update server for Leopard up and running, gave me an interesting error message.
Japan/America time difference FTW. ;o) - dacheetah, on 10/27/2007, -0/+3Or you can just get your PC friend to enable remote desktop, or remote assistance, or a VNC server, all of which can be done by double clicking a single file you send them. (Or manually pretty easily) You can even control any of those from most operating systems. I know Ubuntu comes standard with a VNC client that understands the windows remote desktop protocol.
- natedouglas, on 10/27/2007, -1/+4Have you tried SheepShaver? It seems like it'd work better than Classic did anyway, but I haven't tried it. I switched after OS9 croaked.
- deadbaby, on 10/27/2007, -4/+7Pretty good list. The only things I can add:
1) You don't HAVE to upgrade. 10.4 is a great OS. Very stable, very compatible. Apple doesn't really expect consumers to buy every single OSX upgrade. Look at the features, see if they appeal to you or not. There's nothing wrong with sticking with 10.4 until you buy a new machine or 10.6 comes out.
2) Give Spaces a chance. I think a lot of people have tried, and quit, on virtual desktops in the past due to their poor implementations. Spend your first couple days using spaces and you might be surprised how useful it is. You have to give it some time to sink in -- it's a pretty big change to people who aren't accustomed to it. - colincornaby, on 10/27/2007, -0/+3It really depends. 64 bit can handle larger chunks of data which can result in a performance increase in some situations.
- djtripp, on 10/27/2007, -1/+4Here is a big tip, esp people with 2.0ghz Dual Core G5 PowerMacs. If the install fails. Run the Apple Hardware Test disk to check your memory. I had one bad stick, and when the pair was removed, the install worked flawlessly. (Also do an archive and install)
- sakuraz, on 10/27/2007, -0/+3maybe it was a poor wording of "everyday users"
- counterplex, on 10/27/2007, -2/+4Nice Portal reference there :)
- thorn101, on 10/27/2007, -0/+2I live in Europe, and I was looking in upgrading my RAM in my 1.67 Ghz 17" powerbook. Why does the 1Gb RAM module cost 330 Euro ($471) at Apple store, but when I buy the Kingston ram module myself it only costs 79 Euro ($107)???
- ItsMyWii, on 10/27/2007, -0/+2I REALLY want Pith Helmet back.
- GrizzlyAdams, on 10/27/2007, -0/+2No, the archive install worked for me and APE still appears to be installed and functioning properly. I think more likely it is some sort of incompatibility with APE and the upgrade install of Leopard. Alternatively I suppose you could follow dalesmatrix's steps above and then reinstall APE once you're back in Leopard again.
- MtheoryX, on 10/27/2007, -0/+2No, it does not register if you don't let it.
Additionally, there are 2 different questions here. CAN (as in ability) and MAY (as in permission).
Yes, you CAN install it on both your machines; however, your license agreement states that you MAY not. The decision is yours. - GrizzlyAdams, on 10/27/2007, -1/+3God, I wish you had posted this advice 2 nights ago when I was pulling my hair out with the Leopard BSOD! I ended up doing an archive and reinstall which worked but this would have been ever so much easier. Thanks though. I'm not surprised it's an APE issue.
- enzomedici, on 10/27/2007, -2/+4No, Time Machine is pretty lame if you ask me. What are you going to do when your primary hard drive fails? The Time Machine backup is useless if you can't boot from it. Are you going to be down for a few days while you get your computer repaired? I'm not. A cloned drive via Super Duper is waaay better.
- rasterbator, on 10/27/2007, -1/+3Always always always:
backup entire machine and install new OS from scratch
upgrades cause too many gremlins; not worth the headache - MacParrot, on 10/27/2007, -2/+4And what is this supposed to prove? That most people who get tattoos are idiots? I'm sure if you looked you could find other idiots with Windows, Playstation, various games, or Zune tattoos as well. Give it a rest
- PathDaemon, on 10/27/2007, -0/+2I had Application Enhancer installed and performed an upgrade install with no issues. My instant hijack, at least, is NOT working, (don't have many APEs to test with at the moment) but isn't affecting my system for the worse. This procedure should be useful still for anyone with worse Unsanity luck.
I have to note, though, that while everything turned out all well and good, I made a full, bootable backup before the install. I'm not encouraging anyone to risk their data. - tizz66, on 10/27/2007, -0/+1You have to upgrade iLife separately. Yes your current version will work fine.
- inactive, on 10/27/2007, -0/+1Plus the Leopard install disk can restore a mac from a Time Machine disk.
- hobgobbler, on 10/27/2007, -0/+1No perian! That is NOT cool. I use that all the time to convert MKVs and other goofy file formats. I was on my way out the door to buy it, now I'm not too sure.
- inactive, on 10/27/2007, -0/+1Upgraded and everything works well now.. some of the programs crashed, i then reported it to Apple (please do so, so that they can fix your bugs) they didn't reoccur and everything is running smooth and fast! Strongly recommend to upgrade - new features are really useful. Will see how it is a few weeks down the road though!
- chad78, on 10/28/2007, -1/+2(ok, now try to figure out which person I'm talking about, and to whom I am speaking) - Don't feed the trolls
- northernmunky, on 10/27/2007, -0/+1No it doesn't, but my iLife 08 works fine
- inactive, on 10/27/2007, -0/+1oops
- tizz66, on 10/27/2007, -0/+1If it's your sole computer then yeah it's not going to help you get up and running in that event, but when a HD fails, personally I'm more concerned about retrieving my files rather than getting the machine working. I can get a new machine, it's very difficult to get my files back. That's the benefit of Time Machine. It's like System Restore on windows - it's a file backup, not a system backup.
- ZigVicious, on 10/27/2007, -0/+1I only have 10.5 free gigs. If I install Leopard, is it going to eat up all that space, or will it just use the space to uncompress files before it replaces older ones, and leave me with roughly the same free disc space?
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