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Tell Steve not to partner with Walmart

walmartwatch.com — Wal-Mart Watch, an independent organization that keeps tabs on what Wal-Mart is up to, isn't happy that Apple is considering a partnership with the big W. Recall, if you will, that Wal-Mart wasn't so happy about the iTunes Store potentially biting into their share of the movie business.

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  • unnamedjoe, on 10/12/2007, -31/+33I agree with this, but just remember one thing about Wal-mart if it were not for Wal-mart we would still be paying MSRP for everything.
    • tpaine, on 10/12/2007, -25/+17I think the internet has had a far larger effect on MSRP than stupid walmart. Whether it be access to distant retailers or the prorogation of information regarding inflated prices (re: new cars) the internet is a far more free market approach to lower prices. Walmart uses it's tremendous buying power to put honest manufactures out of business.

      I hope for Apple's sake that they don't make this partnership. The last thing we need is a company renowned for quality to become dependent upon a company renowned for bullying manufactures to lower prices at the expense of everything.
    • Muyoso, on 10/12/2007, -10/+33Yea, cause the last thing we all want is a cheaper Apple product. Long live monopolies. Long live high prices. YAY!
    • exobyte, on 10/12/2007, -4/+28Let digg users make up their own minds. Stop telling us what to think in titles and summaries (but keep it up in the comments).
    • VeganG, on 10/12/2007, -17/+9If it were not for Wal-mart we would all be able to AFFORD to pay MSRP for everything.
    • Wisgary, on 10/12/2007, -10/+22wal-mart was the best thing that ever happened to DVDs and music CDs.
    • signal15, on 10/12/2007, -17/+15Maybe they were the best things to happen to CD and DVD prices, but they are about the worst thing that's happened to just about any company that does business with them. 60% of the companies that do business with them either go out of business because of them (forced price reductions), or get purchased by them.

      I worked for Wal-mart at one time, they are an evil company.
    • Muyoso, on 10/12/2007, -11/+19They are an evil company the on average reduces the price of food 25 percent for low income families, thus giving them an effective income boost of nearly 6.5 percent. Pure EVIL.
    • NSResponder, on 10/12/2007, -3/+13"I think the internet has had a far larger effect on MSRP than stupid walmart. "

      Guess again. Wal-mart's been selling below MSRP for as long as they've existed.

      -jcr
    • bpapa, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8"Let digg users make up their own minds. Stop telling us what to think in titles and summaries (but keep it up in the comments)."

      Exactly. Personally, I just mark all propaganda-laden news posts as spam. Luckily, since I've blocked the political section, I've been able to avoid most of it, but sometimes stuff like this comes up in other places.

      It's funny because people who think wal-mart is "evil" do evil themselves by not simply presenting the facts of a situation and letting a reader decide for themselves. two wrongs, etc.
    • foxhoundadmin, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5so, i guess the general consensus at digg is walmart=good?
    • etnu, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5We also have wal-mart to thank for the serious drop in the quality of merchandise being produced. Their drive to sell products as cheaply as humanly possible has created a situation where the majority of manufactured goods are extremely low quality.

      Apple + Wal-Mart = cheap macs. Cheap macs = crappy hardware that's no better than what you can get anywhere else.

      If you want a cheap computer that you'll just toss away in 2 years, buy a Dell.
    • etnu, on 10/12/2007, -7/+5Also (digg ate my edit):

      "They are an evil company the on average reduces the price of food 25 percent for low income families, thus giving them an effective income boost of nearly 6.5 percent. Pure EVIL."

      And they've also driven a huge percentage of small companies out of business wherever they set up shop, reducing the average hourly wage in areas that they do business in.

      The food they sell is of the low quality, high calorie kind that leads to obesity which leads to diabetes, heart disease, and other health problems. Cheap food != good food!
    • superkendall, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2If they are the worst thing for companies that do business with them, there is an easy and simple solution - DO NOT SELL TO WALMART. There are companies that have pulled out of WalMart and are doing just fine, thanks very much.

      WalMart is a huge outlet for anything and that can be appealing. But blame the greed of the people who see only WalMarts vast buying audience while ignoring the impact on the company selling to them and not having the balls to push back. If WalMart says "We'll produce it for half the cost in China and sell a copy" say "Enjoy your crapy clone product while I milk high-end sales from the web and you destroy your own brand name".
    • superkendall, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4@etnu:

      Have you ever even bought food at a Super Wal-Mart? They have the same food every other grocery store on the planet does - yes they have chips, but they also have plenty of fresh vegetables and a good deli section.

      In fact, dare I say it, I prefer Walmarts food section to that of SuperTarget. No generic brand on earth is quite so disgusting in every product incaration as Archer Farms. Even the AF bottled water tastes like hell, I kid you not. I have yet to try an Archer Farms product that was not so horrid I had to throw away the whole thing after the first bite.

      I still generally go to real grocery stores though (instead of WalMart), mostly because they are closer. I guess that is why they build Super Walmarts closer and closer together.
    • Muyoso, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5They only employ 1.3 million Americans, at an average rate of $10.11 an hour, offer health care plans for as low as $11 dollars a month, save the AVERAGE American family over $2300 a year and have a measly 127 million shoppers a week. Evil, Evil company.
  • geraldb28, on 10/12/2007, -11/+23Apple's job to me as an AAPL shareholder is to secure deals when and where they make sense. Pairing up with the #1 retailer in the world may or may not make good business sense. Depends on the terms now doesn't it? I know Wal-Mart having been one of their supplier vendors. They are an aggressive lot (as THEY should be). I'm sure not worried about the "monopolistic" aspects of this. Anyone who thinks iPod will remain numero uno forever is bonkers. If Apple doesn't trump it someone else will. But, they sure have a responsibility to keep that monster lead on everyone else as long as they can.

    Both parties ought to do what's right for them. Deal. No Deal. Whatever.

    I also know Apple tends to be an equally shrewd negotiator. Unlike the Wal-Mart Watch crew I have a lot more faith in Mr. Jobs to do what's right for Infinite Loop.
    • unnamedjoe, on 10/12/2007, -10/+1Dude, I totally agree. I know Jobs wouldn't allow it unless apple share holders and board got a great deal which usually mean the customers got a great deal. he once tried to screw the board over and it didn't work if you all remember.
    • sjbdallas, on 10/12/2007, -15/+6I hate walmart's reign as much as the next guy but I do still shop there on occassion. I think Apple needs to worry about WalMart partnering with Microsoft instead. I know Jobs doesn't consider the Zune a threat but if you combine the Zune with Walmart, he might want to start worrying.
  • s14sh3r, on 10/12/2007, -20/+7ooh ooh, digg me down, too!
  • bananatree, on 10/12/2007, -15/+10As much as I would like to see Apple's stock go up, the horror stories that I have heard about Wal-mart are too much for me to agree with a partnership of my favourite computer company.
  • hansamurai, on 10/12/2007, -8/+1Yeah, anytime a megacorp teams up with a megacorp is bad news for everyone!
  • airiox, on 10/12/2007, -5/+4If you want to get mad at someone for stealing money on music downloads, blame the RIAA, can't find the story but a few months back there was a story on digg that said the RIAA takes around 70 cents of the 99 cents itunes charges for a song, may not be the exact figure but it was over 50 cents for sure.

    • KevinWhite, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4And how is the company that owns the rights to the music taking 70% a bad thing?
      That sounds right to me...

      Now the way they distribute those funds once they get them is a whole different matter.....definitely most of that 70% should go to the artist
    • carapi, on 10/12/2007, -5/+1Go buy a $100 DVD player at a store. How much do you think the manufacturer gets of your $100?

      AT LEAST $70.

      Go buy ANYTHING. How much do you think the company responsible for the item gets out of the purchase price? At least 70%.

      Hell, I am sure you are one of those Apple fanboys. OR a Nintendo fanboy. How much do you think that Apple gets when you buy an iPod at a store? Or Nintendo will get when you buy a Wii?

      Closer to NINETY percent.
    • cgeorge, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2You got a source for those numbers? Preferrably a source where the sun does shine?
    • arpad, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Don't hold your breath waiting for a reply.
    • panique, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1@carapi - you're completely full of *****. MINIMUM markup from wholesale to retail is 100%.
    • osbjmg, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1carapi - you are just making things up now. There are many products that have more than 30% markup. I have seen it, and there's no guideline, it's all about the market. Wal-Mart has historically low markup, that's their model, but don't say everyone follows a similar rule. I have seen markup that is multiple 100's of a percent, it just depends on what the market will support.
  • diggless, on 10/12/2007, -14/+15i hope walmart gets whats coming to them. I cant shop at a store that is forced to pay its employees a settlement (in multiple states in multiple different settlements) for making them clock out of work and continue working.

    BTW this is just the tip of the ice berg. This company is so extraordinarily detrimental to our economy in the long term I cant shop there.

    Also they arent the price leader everyone thinks they are, statistically on the avg customers shopping trip there is another local store that would have been cheaper.

    watch the frontline about it. This show gives you a tiny glimpse into the walmart problem.

    http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/walmart/view/
    • Muyoso, on 10/12/2007, -7/+12The availability of walmart is like an instant 6.5 percent boost for the income of the lowest classes in America. http://www.slate.com/id/2144517/entry/2144521

      "[T]ogether with a few sister "big box" stores (Target, Best Buy, and Home Depot), Wal-Mart accounts for roughly 50% of America's much vaunted productivity growth edge over Europe during the last decade. Fifty percent! Similar advances in wholesaling supply chains account for another 25%!"
    • diggless, on 10/12/2007, -7/+8Muyoso your statement is 100% false.

      the trade deficit caused by walmart alone, along with it assisting workers at filing out welfare and govt healthcare due to the unaffordable walmart healthcare plan

      Please look at a larger picture than the cost of the goods they sell. look at the cost to communities and our nation as a whole you will see a very different picture.
    • carapi, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6yeah...diggless...because if they didn't have ANY job, they would get all this cheap healthcare too, right?

      I am missing the part where Walmart comes into a community and rounds up people and forces them to quit their other GREAT jobs with full healthcare benefits and forces them to come work for them.

      Most of these employees mentioned that don't have healthcare are the lowest of unskilled laaborers. People who are working for Walmart for a reason. Because NO other company would hire them. (And the ones that do ALSO don't give them good health insurance.)

      Bottom line. You want good health insurance? MAke yourself USEFUL to an employer. Go to college. At LEAST a community college. And don't give me any bitchfests about not being able to afford it. Millions of kids go to colleges they can't afford every year and come out with big students loans. It is called an investment.

      But if you are going to blame Walmart becuase some 17 year old mother who dropped out of high school is working there and not getting good benefits, you are going to lose any debate.
    • diggless, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5carapi

      look at ohio, there was a thompson plant that went out of business there and walmart came in.... well you know what. You think whatever you want. I have spent a great deal of time studying the issues that affect the workers and the corporation and I can confidently say that Walmart has a very negative impact on low wage workers.

      Watch the frontline, get the "the high cost of low price" dvd, look at the lawsuits walmart has paid to its workers total payouts in the high 100s of millions. Read some articles and interviews and then come back and tell me you think this company is helping us all live better.
    • carapi, on 10/12/2007, -5/+1Gotta love those "studies" so, if someone was buying 20 different items, they could go to 20 different stores and drive a couple hundred miles, becuase you might find one store that has each item (and no others) for a few cents cheaper than Walmart. My dad is dumb enough to do this. I didn't think anyone else was that stupid. Now I see that Diggless is.

      Or, you can save yourself time and gas money and get them all at one place much cheaper.
    • Muyoso, on 10/12/2007, -4/+2Well I can see why he doesnt like Walmart. They only employ 1.3 million Americans, at an average rate of $10.11 an hour, offer health care plans for as low as $11 dollars a month, save the AVERAGE American family over $2300 a year and have a measly 127 million shoppers a week. Evil, Evil company.

      In the words of Michael Moore in Team America - "Protesting is not enough, we must take radical action against the fascists in our own country. Bring it down, bring it all down!"
    • Herkimer56, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1If Wal-Mart is such an evil corporation and treats it's employees so badly then why do I see cashiers wearing 20 and 30 year pins? If they were treated so poorly then why would they stay? If it's just another minimum wage job with poor benefits then the employees could go anywhere and get as good a deal.
    • osbjmg, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1carapi - ditto
      and a double ditto if you happen to be one that squanders money instead of investing in an education. Go to school, then buy your RIMBS.
    • Herkimer56, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0So why did I get dug down for asking a question? If working at Wal-Mart is so terrible and de-humanizing then why do people work there for twenty or thirty years? Are you people that are speaking out against Wal-Mart afraid of the question? Could it be that you don't really know what you're talking about? I couldn't help but notice that no one even tried to answer the question. That tells me something about your arguments.
    • ColtraneOfMars, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@ Herkimer56

      Your statement that working at WalMart for 20 or 30 years == employees like WalMart, while on the surface sounding reasonable, is not logical. A person could work at WalMart that long because they don't see any opportunity elsewhere. Or a person have to provide for a family and can't afford to leave his/her job.
      We really can't know why people work that long at WalMart without asking them. There might be a multitude of responses that we wouldn't anticipate.

      Basically, without providing evidence to support your claims, your statement is just an assumption.

      I'm sorry nobody replied to you earlier. I hope this gives you something to respond to.
  • Doughboy, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2I get the impression that Walmart is planning on setting up their own online digital movie service. Rather than have competition from Walmart, presuming that they happen to get their own service running, Apple is going to try to partner/join forces with them instead. I believe that the deal would only give Walmart a proceed of profits if the sale originated from Walmart. Remember that Apple does little more than break even with its iTunes and it even admits that it uses iTunes as a method to sell iPods, Therefore, Apple could care less that Walmart is profiting off the download portion as long as iPod sales increase! Last time I was in Walmart they sold iPods! If Walmart was partnered with Apple, it would promote increased sales of iPods, would make profit off downloads and all sides would be happy.

  • theduck71, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4SBJDALLAS** This is in regards to your comment.

    "I hate walmart's reign as much as the next guy but I do still shop there on occassion."

    Doesn't that make you a hypocrite????

    That aside, go Wal-Mart!!
  • wholewheat, on 10/12/2007, -6/+10Dugg down. Wal-Mart Watch is a biased Wal-Mart-hating organization out to slander and destroy one of America's best business assets.
    • Shalabi, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9Damn straight. I love paying lower prices.
    • SmurfyBrown, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2Goddamn it, you all should be ashamed of yourselves! Ok, I will admit that low prices (especially for food) is EXTREMELY GOOD for low-income families, and that low prices are good in general. But for chrissake, when will you people understand that it's possible for a company to provide these things AS WELL AS BEING SOCIALLY RESPONSIBLE. If Wal-Mart wanted to they could provide all the low prices you like so much in ADDITION to paying its employees a decent wage and healthcare, etc. But they don't want to. Even someone as "logical" as you Wal-Mart lovers has to admit such a thing is possible.
    • ColtraneOfMars, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@ wholewheat

      I don't think you mean "bias" because that would mean that the WalMartWatch is against WalMart based on a preconceived notion that is not based on reason or actual experience. Just perusing their website, it seems like WalMartWatch has spent a lot of time and resources researching WalMart. They cite court cases, official U.S. government publications, and news articles.
      Do you perhaps mean that the evidence is insufficient or their reasoning is flawed? If you really do mean bias, I don't think you have a very strong case.
  • Epsilon26, on 10/12/2007, -8/+10I've worked at Wal-Mart, and it's not pleasant, but walmartwatch.com exists purely for unions to spin everything against Wal-Mart. It's one big publicity stunt that misrepresents the truth. I've been inside the organization, and I respect what they do. Sure, they don't pay well and don't offer great health care for their part-time associates, but we live in a capitalist society, not a socialist paradise.

    Nobody is forcing Wal-Mart employees to stay. In fact, when they qualify for better jobs, they tend to leave. Compensation decisions are best left to HR departments, not unions. Just check out all of the shining examples of union labor pricing itself out of the market (GM? Delta?).

    Unions had their time and place, but labor markets are more liquid than ever before and unionization no longer makes sense for the vast majority of industries.
    • diggless, on 10/12/2007, -6/+4I see that walmarts anti-union efforts are working.

      I used to be very anti-union. What changed my mind was 3 years of reading articles and case studies and exposure to historical and current employment data. I started researching the issue because my real opinions of unions (very negative) were more based on what I had learned from the media and exposure to business. I realized there are other sides of the story. When i looked for these other sides it because brutally apparent that unions are necessary and historically have increased wages.

      Look at the past as recent as the 70's a single family income could easily sustain a family of 4. Workers were relativly well represented at this time. Now flash to 2007. You could never take care of a family of 4 on an income anywhere near the median.

      Its so sad that the benefits of worker representation are lost on my generation. We have all been convinced that unions are greedy and corrupt (which some are and they need addressed, also our government is as well that doesnt mean we dont need government)

      understand the past or repeat it.
    • Epsilon26, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Unions have definitely increased wages, but they do that by creating barriers to entry--tying up the labor market. Unions had their day in the sun, but the fact is that our economy is quickly moving toward more capital intensive production--both physical and human capital. Unskilled labor is old and busted in the U.S., and the faster people realize that the better.

      The premise of a union is that workers aren't being paid the marginal product of their labor, so they need to strengthen their bargaining position. Liquid labor markets tend to push wages to an equilibrium. This equilibrium is artificially low in monopsony labor markets (think monopoly from the employer's perspective, a.k.a. company towns); however, monopsonies are not that common, especially not in retail or air travel or auto manufacturing.

      I suspect that blue collar unions are fighting a losing battle to maintain their wages in the face of foreign competition. Fighting globalization is a losing battle, and unionized labor would be better served through retraining programs to move the blue collar workforce into service industries.
  • bdwoolman, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3Apple's DRM and Walmart's restraint of trade hegemony. Sweet. Need shares. ... NOT!
    • steamedlice, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Apple's DRM exists at the insistance of the record companies. There would be no legal music downloads from the labels without it. Don't blame Apple.
    • nalfeo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0the music industry and the RIAA were not the only things responsible for Apple's DRMing its music; it does so equally to chain iPods and iTunes togther.
  • khrome, on 10/12/2007, -5/+2I hate Wal-Mart and shop there less than yearly, not only because of shady business practices, but due to consumer channeling (altering stocked brands to control consumer spending and selection). That being said, thumbing your nose at the largest retail channel for music in the US when a partnership is on the table, would be crazy. I mean Apple is a business, right?

    Apple held out with their US and European manufacturing facilities, too and that didn't help them at all. Now that it's all Pacific Rim, they suddenly have nice margins.

    On the one hand everyone wants Apple to stop being the crazy uncle of the PC world, then on the other they complain when it acts like other PC businesses.

    Besides... that sidebar seems to make the point that killing the newton, in favor of the iPod, was a bad idea. More people using newspapers to further the same goals they had before they ever heard about this issue.

    Any company who's formula is based on growth ultimately plateaus. After that they either change thier plan or do the 'K-Mart'.
    • theduck71, on 10/12/2007, -5/+4KHROME** This is in regards to your comment.

      "I hate Wal-Mart and shop there less than yearly"

      Doesn't that make you a hypocrite????

      That aside, go Wal-Mart!!

    • khrome, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1Not really, most of the time when Wal-Mart comes up I suggest an alternative. I don't get out of the car when people really *want* to go there, but In general I spend my money elsewhere. Considering the ratio, I feel not at all bad about it.
  • greymaxcat, on 10/12/2007, -5/+2I love Walmart!
    There is way too much hate in the world... why not try coming over to the good side a show some love... You all are so negative and hate filed. But I still love you all...

    Peace
  • anonym41414, on 10/12/2007, -4/+9"Wal-Mart Watch, an independent organization"

    Founded by and funded almost exclusively by the Service Employees International Union, a union that's been trying hard for years to unionize Wal-Mart.

    Independent my ass.

    http://paidcritics.com/walmart_watch_the_truth.html
    • vvaduva, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Cool...thanks for exposing that. Another digg "fact appearing on the main page that is discovered to be lies. I guess the democratic aspects of Web 2.0 and truth are not very compatible uh?!
    • acousticiris, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Stop it!
      You're only allowed to hate Bush and The War here!
      Didn't you get the memo?
    • jfair, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Is it too much to ask that walmart supply health insurance for its workers?
  • glucoseboy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Two points:

    One: Who really knows what Apple's discussions regarding movie download business are? Before you go signing petitions blasting Apple for working with the "great-satan" that is Walmart, shouldn't we find out exactly what the business agreement is?

    Two: I'm tired of hearing from WalMart bashers who then admit later on to shopping there. If you really want to affect change, vote with your dollars. Don't shop there. I don't. (there is Walmart within 4 blocks of my house)
    • theduck71, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1GLUCOSEboy I disagree with your analysis of Wal-Mart as the "Great Satan", however kudos for you for getting it!! If you don't like the business practices of a company, then don't shop there. Do not preach to us about the "evils" of a company, then actually shop there. That would make you a hypocrite.

      Again way to go glucose for actually getting it!
  • FHKE, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2It looks like Wal-Mart Watch knows that Apple fanboy-lism is powerful.
  • carapi, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4Waaahhhhh waaaahhhhh waaaahhhh! Walmart is bad! All those kids of workers on public healthcare!

    Yewh...because we all know that without Walmart, all those employees with ZERO actual unique job skills, would get these great professional jobs offering full heatlth care.
  • macmcrae, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5God that would be wonderful for apple's elitist image. They could put the apple kiosk next to the Wrasslin' and Nascar DVDs.
  • HarryP2511, on 10/12/2007, -2/+0Apple gets loads of media attention regardless of what it does. The last thing it needs is for lots of people to be against it, especially with the current blogosphere.

    It could start a revolution against Wal-Mart and use its media attention to help further the cause of improving the lives and working conditions of Wal-Mart workers. Or, it can be nice to Wal-Mart and get the hate of the entire (or most of) teh blogosphere aimed at it.

    Business reasons are important, but Apple has the potential to change the world here, and in a good way, too. Not many companies get that chance.

    Plus, besides the media, many Mac users are so pro-Apple that they follow everything that happens almost religiously. Many of these would support Apple if they chose to say no to Wal-Mart.


    Point is: Apple - just say no to Wal-Mart (or come up with a deal that makes WM fix its many unethical problems)


    Oh, and to Epsilon26 - I agree with you about Delta - not only have they practically killed themselves, but their service has always sucked and will always suck.
  • HarryP2511, on 10/12/2007, -3/+0And, seeing as I couldn't add it to the last comment:

    macmcrae - I agree 107.9%

    Apple has always been centred on the quality and coolness factor of their products. They have their own stores centred specifically on their products and services, while ever other computer manufacturer has always sold their products through anyone's stores, however bad they may be.

    Selling their stuff through other stores (Wal-Mart of all places) would ruin their image quite quickly. (Plus Apple, say goodbye to the coolness factor that your products have always had)
    • vvaduva, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Sams Club sells all kinds of iPods and they've been doing so for about a year. Inform yourself first before making ignorant comments.
  • jay4r0, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3Is it digg's purpose to promote sites that present biased view of people or organisation. Of lately I've been wondering lately why digg even promotes stuff like this in the technology section. If I want to read stuff like this I can search for it on Google.
    • vvaduva, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3because we are all stupid....and we are stuck in Iraq. We need the smart people on digg to tell everyone else to call "Steve" and give him advice on who he can do business with.
  • RonnieSan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I think Target has a style more suitable to the Apple style.
    • Muyoso, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Of course, why would Apple want to expose their products to 127 million shoppers a week, go for the stuck up store who thinks their products are better so charges a lot more for them.
  • hazlett, on 10/12/2007, -3/+4Wal-Mart saves the Ameirican public $263,000,000 a year. The US Goverment doles out only $25,000,000 a year in welfare.

    Think on that........
  • vvaduva, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2"Tell Steve not to partner with Walmart"

    Yes sir...anything you want sir. I am useless without your advice and commands....heck, I can barely finish this comme.....a;saf[a.n;vnvs;[0rbs s
    • jfair, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2What's wrong with petitioning a public figure not to do business with a company, whose practices you disagree with? You seem like an informed individual with strong beliefs in a certain ideology. Have you never contacted a public official or figure to do or not do something?
  • rynTAU, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Steve, don't partner with Walmart.

    There, my good deed for the day is done.
  • phantom_mullet, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Apple is rated highly on their treatment of the environment and their changing of policies?

    http://www.greenpeace.org/apple
    • Herkimer56, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1Greenpeace's campaign against Apple is a load of *****. It's nothing more than an attempt to extort money from Apple. There are many computer manufacturers with far worse environmental problems but they're not as well known. Protesting Apple gets you press coverage. Greenpeace should get the hell off of Apple's back.
    • superkendall, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1For those diging down the other guy read the greenpeace thing - the claim Apple has toxic materials in the laptop case but have NEVER ACTUALLY TESTED this. They are just guessing! Is tat fair in any way to Apple?

      Apple is the company that has sent me two email coupons now to send an old computer to them via FedEx, free of charge, for recycling - I box it up and print out a copy of the email and drop it by a FedEx office. Goodbye P450 Dell...

  • acousticiris, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4This might actually get me to buy more products from Apple.
    For all of the complaining about Wal*Mart, I find that my local store has pleasant staff members, good service, and low prices.
    Yes, I know all of their crap comes from China, and I also buy coffee that isn't grown by the Fair Wage people.

    Lets add this up:
    Compete with Wal*Mart, Good (Apple succeeded well at this)
    Defeat Wal*Mart, Good (See above)
    Partner with Wal*Mart, gain access to middle America, small towns and folks who don't have a religious obsession with Apple........yet. I bet it's a good move.

    Oh wait, sorry, I forgot, Big Corporations are Evil (tm). My bad.

    I am Borg.
  • digitallysick, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1So if apple partners with walmart does this mean i can download videos from itunes of white trash shopping? hahaha!
    • Epsilon26, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1So Wal-Mart shoppers are white trash? Personally, I hate anyone who makes less money than I do. I don't like to associate with those people. I stick to my own wealthy circles, because poor people give me allergies. I only shop at Target, because Target shoppers aren't as poor.
    • Herkimer56, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Elitist piece of *****. It's typical of the anti-Wal-Mart crowd to eventually get around to mocking the people that shop at Wal-Mart. Not everyone makes $100k a year and to a family on a budget Wal-Mart can be a blessing. I haven't decided yet if you're a hopeless bigot or a 12 year old playing on Daddy's computer again.
  • theb0b, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0Dont think anyone gets this. It is just another distrubution method.

    No disks pressed, no trucks hauling around plastic discs for no reason. Its just easier to pay for a card to redeem online. No credit cards involved.

    How much is it worth? Whatever the market will pay.

    Remember, it will just works.
  • macmichael01, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1To Wisgary from the top "wal-mart was the best thing that ever happened to DVDs and music CDs." No! P2P was the biggest thing that happened to DVD's and CD's
  • diggernick, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1If Apple partners with Wal-Mart I'll not only stop buying from iTunes and Apple completely but will serve up 100 TB of mp3s and svcd's to the public for pure spite. Those a$$holes fired my grandmother after 19 years of employment all for the sake of avoiding her measly $300/month retirement plan.

    down with them all, I say.
    • Muyoso, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2She was prob getting senile. Its ok, we all do it.
  • fallenone05, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I just called uncle Steve Jobs to tell him not to partner with Wallmart...

    Me: Hey uncle!
    Steve: Hello
    Me: Please don't partner with Walmart!
    Steve:Why not? Listen I don't have time for this...
    Me:But...
    Steve:One more thing...
    Me:What?
    Steve:***** you!
    Me:But on digg...
    Steve:One more thing...
    Me:what?
    Steve:***** you again
    Me:*Crying*
    Steve:One more thing..
    Me:I get it!
  • lordfoul, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1They should ***** off.
  • VampireZIM, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1LOL, well, Walmart has been called evil, APPLE IS EVIL. Walmart makes most of its money off poor ignorant hicks, APPLE MAKES ITS MONEY OFF RICH IGNORANT ASSHOLES, sounds like a perfect match.
  • modifiedbears, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1http://www.jibjab.com/jokebox/jokebox/jibjab/id/42819/jokeid/30964
  • ahhell, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Maybe they can use the same Chinese sweatshops!

    Think of the cost savings!!!
  • markgriffo, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Its like taking an ipod...and putting it in a pile of dog poop.
  • bufbarnaby, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Why? Isn`t Walmart Kosher ?
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