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- rlutterb, on 10/12/2007, -6/+18If I have to see the word "ubuntu" one more time in response to a story that should have nothing to do with it, I think I might have to choke a bitch.
- hammerikaner, on 10/12/2007, -6/+17Lame story, really. A very short list of some marginally useful programs. Anything with Mac in the title in digg seems to hit the front page with certainty.
- Scott2, on 10/12/2007, -3/+13This is an article for those switching to OS X, not just switching to Mac hardware.
- brundlefly76, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9Boot Camp is irrelevant - Parallels is where its at (unless you're a gamer).
I have been a VMWare user for years but only a Mac with Paralells will let you run all three OS's.
Between having dual cores and hardware virtualization the VM performance is outstanding.
I really dont subscribe to the OS flame wars - and from using all three operating systems - they all can handle 99% of what the general population uses computers for with no problem (they all run firefox and gmail), although I would not reccommend any linux to a non-geek. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9Here's my /applications directory
Adium (Multi protocol messenger) - http://adiumx.com
Azureus (BitTorrent Client, Java) - http://azureus.sourceforge.net/ alternatively;
Transmission (BitTorrent Client, Aqua) - http://transmission.m0k.org/
Camino (Lightweight Browser, Aqua) - http://caminobrowser.org
Cyberduck (FTP Client) - http://cyberduck.ch/
DeLocalizer (Removes unused localisations to save space) - http://www.bombich.com/software/local.html
Disk Inventory X (Visual display of hard disk usage) - http://www.derlien.com/
Firefox (Browser) - http://getfirefox.com
Handbrake (DVD ripper) - http://handbrake.m0k.org/
iSquint (Convert movies to iPod size) - http://isquint.org
OnyX (Mac OS X maintenance tool) - http://www.titanium.free.fr/pgs/english.html
Q (processor emulator / virtual machine) - http://www.kberg.ch/q/
Vienna (Opensource RSS Reader) - http://www.opencommunity.co.uk/vienna2.html
VLC (Media Player) - http://videolan.org
WhatSize (View files ordered by size) - http://www.id-design.com/software/whatsize/
and more...
Do I get front page now, too? - slantyyz, on 10/12/2007, -4/+9I agree. As a switcher myself, I don't think there is a whole lot of non-obvious stuff in his list.
The biggest peeves of switchers (which also tend to get us flamed by Mac whores) are things like a Finder replacement that behaves like Windows Explorer, key remappers (home, end, forward delete, page up, page down, command) and other utilities that give us functionality that we might miss in Windows.
All the most popular Windows apps have counterparts in the Mac world already, bittorrent clients, web browsers, etc. I don't see Transmit on the list, which shows you how the Mac does things right compared to many shovelware apps on Windows.
Overall, a pretty useless list. - flernk, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6Um... no.
This list is so sparce and uninformed, I'm going to write my own list later. Boo. - jason7655, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5handbrake?
- Stelex, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5Here are some more applications
http://silvermac.com/blog/most-popular-mac-os-x-applications/ - onestep, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3It's a switchers guide because when someone comes from Windows, they are constantly asking... what do I use to rip dvds, whats a good text editor on the mac, what can I use to chat with since my friends are on multiple chat programs... etc.
Information is applicable to new mac users. - Epixx, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3This is great for me, because I plan on getting a Mac Book relatively soon. Thanks a bunch.
- rparle, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I think I already use all of those. But why is this a switcher's guide? It doesn't mention anything specifically useful for people used to Windows. Some of those programs don't even have Windows equivalents (that I know of; I haven't used Windows in months). This is just another list of useful OS X programs, like every other day on Digg.
- danielwsmithee, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3I am a switcher as well, but switched about 4 years ago so I am by no means recent. There were growing pains getting used to the way Macs work. Most of the them are related the Finder, but the more I used the Mac the more I grew to prefer the way the Mac works.
For example the non-existent maximize button, that resizes the window to fit the contents of the window rather then filling the entire screen. I love that, however at first I hated it. That is just one of the natural transitions you must gow through when you switch. I do wish that you could resize windows from other places then the bottom right hand corner. Hopefully Leopard will change that. - Leech, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2some app to replace MS Money and eWallet?
- Dan005, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2he's missing Speed Download. The best download manager ever.
- ordminute, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I switched away from OSX to Ubuntu recently. While still on Tiger I could've really done with something like Vienna. A great looking app! I have RSS covered in Linux now but will FWD this list to those of my friends using a Mac for sure.
- Timit, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Quicken (preinstalled), and Keychain (OS X built-in)
- igraham09, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3yeah, same here... i had never heard of Onyx or Ecto before
:D - ElectroBot, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2If you just want to install and use it just like any other piece of software that you would get from BestBuy then you should just get a Mac to use OS X. The hacked version of OS X for x86 isn't for people who don't want to get down and dirty with their computer.
- onestep, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Right. This is definitely a starter list - just like it says. It excluded big apps like Office, Toast, Sound Studio etc. While they are good apps, they didn't fit in on this starter list.
- Scott2, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3I'd consider this a partial list. Don't forget Transmit for FTP, ClamXAV for the paranoid, 4th Dimension for decent GUI driven databases, Google Earth for amusement, NoteTaker for gathering data and staying organized, Office (as much as I hate to say it), Toast, Sound Studio for audio editing, and WireTap Pro for recording.
- keithzd, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3I'm not a switcher, but there are some good things on this list that I did not know about.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1never even seen any websites that 'lockout' macs... infact i've seen more sites that bitch at you if you're using IE (like when you're at a lab at school or something).
- onestep, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Handbrake is fine for doing DVDs, but iSquint will do it all.
- crossthread, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Is somebody holding a gun to your head and forcing you to read articles you're not interested in? No? Then STFU and GBTW.
- pornel, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1That should get front page. Mod up for Squoia View replacement :)
- DCMacHead, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"And it cost 1/5 of the price. And guess what? If it goes wrong, its going in the bin and i'll get a new one. What business cares about is cheap, disposable, easily managed, uniform, 'simple' computers. Mac's do not fit this criteria. Simple as that."
* I agree with your argument regarding cheap e-mail machine, but that's it.
* Easily managed, uniform, simple - not accurate. PC vendors often change parts on the fly across what's supposed to be an identical model. I've seen this before first hand and it leads to driver errors and flakey performance. In my company of 1,000 people, 250 of them are IT people who support all the Windows machines.
* I go out of my way not to be a Mac evangelist, though people do come to me for IT advice. I had a guy bust my b@lls last week for not telling him to get a Mac sooner. This guy used Geeks on Call all the time--I said something after he got a $1,000 from them. - SkaAgent11, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2This is the same list that's posted every other week. Why do you people keep submitting these things? I own a mac. I already have these programs. Everyone else has already seen a similar list. Seriously, search dig for "mac" and "freeware" and look at how many of these lists there are.
- DeathSun, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Here's my favorite line:
"...most websites designed to lockout Macs will generally work fine if you use one of these browsers."
Damn it! As a web developer I've been purposely trying to destroy the evil Mac users by purposely creating sites to lock them out--and now THIS! With this "Firefox" thing they will now overrun my sites with their OSX witchcraft! - PerfectReign, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Heh - don't you hate those evul h4xx0rs using Firefox and opera?
Next thing, some ubergeek will be complaining how your site doesn't work in lynx! - slantyyz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1This list is no more useful to switchers than telling them to go to VersionTracker and doing a search.
The other lists that have been on Digg have been categorized in very much the same fashion, so why does this list in particular provide any value to a switcher that any previous Digg posts don't? - PerfectReign, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I just spent about an hour yesterday working on my father-in-law's eMac trying to get some things done. Though a list of software is interesting - there's no relevance to what your Windows Expee friends are using in order to gain a reference point. Just such a list was very helpful for me when I made the switch from Win2K to Linux about two years ago. I had no clue what I'd be using for IM or web page design.
I'd suggest, too, something about how to deal with the missing mouse button on the Apple eMouse. - peorth, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2Nice! I've own a mac for about a month, so i'm still finding out the "must have" programs, I didn't know the Image editor, I was using photoshop for that, and since is emulated over Rosetta, is kinda slow :(
- tthiel, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0That's one of the dumbest things I've read in some time. There are many other factors that business users consider. There are many types of business users who have different tasks. Your simplistic generalization is irrelevant.
- Stelex, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Here are some more applications
http://silvermac.com/most-popular-mac-os-x-applications/
(dead link updated) - tthiel, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Delocalizer has not been updated for some time. You actually want MonoLingual which is an open source version that is kept current.
- KibibyteBrain, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0If you don't like a mouse that comes with any computer you get, you can buy a new one that you do like... yeah...
- tthiel, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0WTF is an eMouse? Like everyone with any sense knows you can plug just about any USB mouse to a mac and secondly the mighty mouse does have the second button.
- kmhtkmhtkmht, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Great.
- tthiel, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Google is your friend. Lots of people do exactly this. Man there are some dumb comments on this topic....
- kmhtkmhtkmht, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1Good.
- fmucklo, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1Where is my virtual mac for my pc. If windows can run on a mac why can't osx run on my windows machine? Com'n hackers. I want osx to run on my hp laptop!
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2Here's my list of useful MacOS X software....http://madsenblog.dk/?page_id=11
- onestep, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1Ever hear of some banks and government web forms that deny Safari. When you don't support Safari, you are ostensibly locking out the Mac, since that is the primary browser on it. While Safari CAN support these pages... web sites can deny and say.. 'sorry... Macs aren't supported'. Oh for a $1 everytime I have seen that. Thanksfully we can use other browsers, or tweak Safari to identify itself an Internet Exploder.
- manaskb, on 10/12/2007, -10/+9Thank You. This is a useful article.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -5/+3Hah. Onestep likes to switch.
- daveyt, on 10/12/2007, -3/+0this pretty much sums up the whole Mac vs PC argument. You see kids, its nothing to do with Macs or PC;s and what each can and cant do. Its economics. Lets look at the list:
Browser
Chat
Image Editing
Backup
Blog
Text Editing
Archives
iTunes/iPod
DVD Backups
Video Playback/Conversion
Utilities/RSS
Ok with the exception of text editing & browsing and to some extent chat, these are all 'nice to haves'. In the business world (and outside 'fun' companies like silicon valley) or real world, where a lot of PC's live, there is no need for them in the majority of cases. Given a PC with email, some basic office apps and hey presto - you've just covered 90% of your users needs. And it cost 1/5 of the price. And guess what? If it goes wrong, its going in the bin and i'll get a new one. What business cares about is cheap, disposable, easily managed, uniform, 'simple' computers. Mac's do not fit this criteria. Simple as that.
"But I want to do all this cool stuff at home?" Knock yourself out. Buy a Mac. Or a PC.
But people, here endeth the arguments about Mac's and PC's. It's Apples and Oranges. - dhan, on 10/12/2007, -4/+0How many more such articles ...this is getting out of hand now.
- rderveloy, on 10/12/2007, -12/+8"well, for one thing those aren't pieces of software they are Operating Systems!"
Newsflash:
This just in! Operating systems are software. News at 11.
/sarcasm - OlliLartinen, on 10/12/2007, -8/+3very useful tips ... even for non-switcher..
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