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- mralexgray, on 10/19/2007, -11/+115i love apple. but i hate them right now. my iphone is like totally boring, and i'm like, totally on my period about it.
- nkramer09, on 10/19/2007, -3/+51I am totally sticking with 1.0.2 until they have a work around.
- Ireland, on 10/10/2007, -7/+49Apple's getting slapped around here, royally, and rightly so. Pay attention Apple or pay the pice.
- thesledman, on 10/10/2007, -8/+48I'm sick of the bitching.
You knew there was no SDK before you paid for your iPhone.
You knew the phone was LOCKED into AT&T before you paid for your iPhone.
You knew what features the iPhone had before you paid for your iPhone.
You knew installing some hacking software could potentially brick your phone.
Neither Apple, AT&T or Steve Jobs promised or implied that 3rd party programs or unlocks were supported.
Apple warned you that the experts that actually invented and developed the iPhone noticed the hacked phones in some cases were damaged and might brick on this recent update.
Whats the problem here? The iPhone is exactly what you purchased, after the 1.1.1 update its actually better then the phone you purchased. If you chose to install some hack you downloaded off the interwebs, void the warranty and end up with a bricked phone then you are to blame. - m00gg, on 10/10/2007, -6/+34I like that Apple shelled out that refund to the early adopters, but why lock out the firmaware like this and hinder the progress of the open-source community? I shall proudly not update...
- skoles, on 10/10/2007, -17/+45Um. I don't think it broke 3rd party apps. I think it simply updated how it would've normally and overwrote what the 3rd party ***** did to force it's way in there.
This ***** update bitching is getting old. Christ people, you KNEW this ***** wasn't going to be supported in any way. It even says IN YOUR ***** PHONE CONTRACT that you are not allowed to change the devices software under any circumstance. I'm all for doing what you want with it, but don't expect any company to support ***** it never intended to be there in the first place.
Buy a ***** Blackberry if you want all these features. It's smaller, cheaper in some cases, and supports plenty of 3rd party *****. - picciano, on 10/10/2007, -6/+31I just want my ring tones back.
- cowsgonemadd3, on 10/10/2007, -3/+26If you want to keep using the ringtones and 3rd party programs do not upgrade. Very simple solution.
- TheRascalKing, on 10/10/2007, -1/+23I predict many open letters in the future.
- FTLJohnson, on 10/10/2007, -5/+26The options in this poll stink. I'd have added
"I've upgraded already, but if apple doesn't provide a legitimate option for 3rd party apps that people are clearly demanding, then I will be dumping my iCrap."
or
"If apple refuses to provide a legitimate solution for 3rd party developers, the least they can do is get out of their way." - cakeeating, on 10/10/2007, -2/+21Why the heck did you upgrade it, then?
- amykhar, on 10/10/2007, -3/+19The way I see it, hobbyist developers will have the third party apps back soon enough. But honestly, I just wish Apple would open up the platform for application development.
- JoeDiggsIt, on 10/10/2007, -3/+18I honestly don't care about the 3rd party apps, because I use my phone to (it may sound crazy) make calls, play music and audiobooks, watch movies/tv shows, and surf the interwebs. I don't need to play Zork that bad or make my friends look like pirates, and I'm certainly not going to have a little hissy fit like some of you are doing over something this trivial.
- JoeDiggsIt, on 10/10/2007, -6/+19Theres no Starbucks icon unless....YOU'RE IN A STARBUCKS!!
- virtualball, on 10/10/2007, -4/+17I seem to be in the minority who think that Apple isn't really in the wrong here : They warned you not to update and they are contractually bound to stop unlocks. What more do you want? Also, if you're one of those people who say "Ugh! I want 3rd party apps now!" the hacking community doesn't need you. It is a gradual process which involves people who do this in their spare time. Whoever updated heard Jobs saying "It's our job to break them" and "It's a cat-and-mouse game."
Lastly, for those complaining about buying the iPhone and saying it isn't worth it anymore, why'd you buy it in the first place? It would be sad if you paid 400-600 dollars for NES. Like Gizmodo, they said you should buy it on the first day, but now, when we can't unlock and have third party apps, they advise against getting it, even though Apple fixed bugs and added features. - joemasta, on 10/10/2007, -10/+21If apple had to name there firmware updates, this one would be called "Apple_Dick_Move_v1.1.1" ill be staying on v1.0.2, my 3rd party apps do much more for me than a mobile music store. At least with 3rd party apps, it somewhat makes the iPhone worth what i paid for it.....
- fkr3, on 10/10/2007, -3/+13The legitimate solution is "another platform". Apple is all about Apple and all for Apple. They're not some open source company where everybody sits around group-hugging and spreading warm fuzzy feelings, they're a business and a smart one.
Look at the success Sony has had with the PSP in spite of breaking homebrew stuff every single update, and bundling games with updates so you can't even mix and match homebrew with purchased games.
Apple just doesn't need to open the iPhone, people will buy it anyway. - JTMON, on 10/10/2007, -5/+15"To expect Apple to develop around a myriad of homebrewed codebases that would continually evolve is asking too much."
Right right, it's just what oh I don't know..almost EVERY other hardware vendor does. - skoles, on 10/10/2007, -2/+12Then why has this logic not caused RIM to collapse and go bankrupt? I have a Blackberry Pearl and I can download & load any 3rd party app that tickles my fancy. I can access most common image & document formats on the phone, get directions, IM, text, browse the web, watch videos, play music, SYNC WITH MY MAC...it does as much PRACTICAL work, if not more, than the iPhone does.
What am I losing? Starbucks integration? Woop-de-*****. iTunes support? Actually, mine syncs my playlists fine. Touch screen? Oh lawds! I don't have the privilege of pulling my device out to do a simple task like change a song. Ringtones? I can just drag & drop my audio files right to the phone and viola! Ringtone!
It even syncs over Bluetooth. HOLY ***** WHERE CAN YOU BUY FUTUREPHONE FOR YOURSELF you ask? Why it's FREE with most plans and some coupon codes. - totorototoro, on 10/10/2007, -6/+15I didn't hack my iPhone...I'm pretty happy with it as it is (movies, music, maps, safari, and phone are all great)
My hope is that once Leopard launches, Apple will announce an SDK for the iPhone. Its obvious certain parts of the iPhone are waiting for Leopard (like Notes)...maybe there is more coming. - inactive, on 10/10/2007, -1/+10Funny... Apple forces thousands of people to NOT update, thus losing them as Starbucks Wifi iTunes customers.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -1/+10i love my iphone but i love apptapp and 3rd party apps more. i'll stick to 1.02.
- KungFuJesus, on 10/10/2007, -1/+9Um, 3rd party apps have the potential to raise demand for iphones. Apple is working against themselves by pulling this *****
- WCFins, on 10/10/2007, -0/+8Which at last check is once every half a block.
- smhill, on 10/10/2007, -1/+9Agreed I am sick of this as well. All of what you said is true. Everyone is acting like Apple just kicked their puppy, when in truth Apple did nothing except enforce exactly what said.
The problem is that people thought that Apple would some how bless the 3rd party apps. Basically Apple is only guilty of not living up to some folk's expectations. - thatsmyaibo, on 10/10/2007, -1/+9Apple has always welcomed free and open source apps to OS X. I think they are just being cautious in order to prevent irreversable damage to such a new product. 3rd party apps will come. be patient.
- 3210, on 10/10/2007, -9/+17Stupid move by Apple, people bought the iPhone and they should be able to use it with whatever mobile carrier they want and they should be able to put whatever software they desire on it. Apple really made a stupid decision by doing this to their paying customers.
- streak, on 10/10/2007, -3/+10On average, Apple won't lose any money on the $100 coupons.
- fuzzmeister, on 10/10/2007, -2/+9I was hoping Apple wouldn't take the road Sony did dealing with PSP hackers, but it appears that they have. Come on Apple, let people do what they want with their phones, it doesn't harm you in the slightest.
- thinkdifferent, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7Wrong, other vendors have a public API which developers use. When those first systems came out, they didn't have public APIs either. The homebrew apps are generally using private APIs which are probably still in a state of flex. I'd love and SDK for the iPhone, however it's unreasonable to expect them to support an API they haven't committed to supporting. An API forces Apple to not change things as much. Keep in mind, the iPhone has only been out a few months. I'm sure that once Leopard ships as well as the devices in Europe we'll be closer to having one.
- superkendall, on 10/10/2007, -3/+10The poll was obviously bisaes, the choices came down to "so just how much does the update suck?".
But I am mellow about it. I would like third party apps, but I can wait for the next unlock. In the meantime I'm still plenty happy with the phone as-is and some of the new features are really nice (including an oft overlooked one, better VPN support). - Vegabondsx, on 10/10/2007, -1/+7I was planning on getting an iPhone, and I still do. I was looking forward to using third party apps, but I suppose its something I will have to wait on. I understand Apple voiding the Warranty if iPhones are unlocked or have third party apps but Apple should have still let people develop for iphone, just not support it. The choice of unlocking or using 3rd party apps with hacks and possibly voiding the warranty is one that Apple should have given. Even without 3rd party apps the iPhone is still a very sweet phone.
- superkendall, on 10/10/2007, -1/+7I didn't buy it because it was cool. I bought it because it works great. And it still does.
- Hamletlere, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5Actually, yes. I have a couple hundred dollars of music from the iTunes Music Store, and maybe another hundred dollars worth of TV shows.
I hacked my iPhone so it has additional functionality that I wanted (in my case, an eBook reader) so that I no longer have to carry around my PDA. What makes you equate hacking with theives? - deadbaby, on 10/10/2007, -2/+7I can tell you one reason they're doing it: Ever since I installed Summerboard my phone will sometimes not properly unlock. It goes to a black screen where I can see the status bar but nothing else. This happens probably 3-4 times a week. A quick power cycle fixes it but the average consumer may not understand this is a third party software problem, not an Apple problem.
- JoeDiggsIt, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5Do you have ADD?
- HerrEisenheim, on 10/10/2007, -10/+15Works great for me. No use for the iTunes WiFi Store, but the other little fixes are great. Honestly, I don't see the big deal. Maybe some people need a reality check. Apple DOESN'T CARE ABOUT YOU. I know long time Apple fanboys like to think of Apple as some kind of damn charity, but you need to get over it. They are in the game to make money, same as everyone else—not to do whatever you think they should. Don't like it? Don't buy it, but please stop crying.
- TejInLA, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5The only reason I could see a need for that is if you just want to swamp the edge network.
- chrisxkelley, on 10/10/2007, -2/+7but do you really think the people hacking their phones are going to be the ones paying for music?
- ijak, on 10/10/2007, -3/+8I voted that I don't care. But the truth is not in your poll. ... Obviously I do care and want third party Applications. ... But I will not be a party to tearing down the best phone that is out there because it does not live up to everything I want. ...
Nothing else even comes close.
What I want is in the future for Apple, and for me. ... Dell, Gateway, HP, MS, None of the other companies has a farts chance in a high wind for building the tools I want.
I support Apple in whatever they need to do in order to make the transition into the phone companies. ...
Do you think you could make a little contract and then let a bunch of hackers erase all your hard negotiated deals, and just let it go. ...
*****. Use your head and see what the real options are not this pie in the sky little-boy I-want-my-toy crap. Grow up. - inactive, on 10/10/2007, -3/+8I understand Apple wanting to control the whole iPhone experience. That's what separates them from other consumer electronics companies, and it has worked for them.
But not supporting 3rd party applications was a big miscalculation. I'm sure the last thing they wanted with the first iPhone update was all the negative publicity surrounding bricked and disabled iPhones.
It doesn't matter how attractive the iPhone is. The bottom line is that you can't intentionally disable your product and expect people to not notice. It's certainly not the tactic Apple used to get the iPod where it is. - rspeed, on 10/10/2007, -1/+6The hell? That's about the dumbest thing I ever heard. It's 2007, not 2010. You don't use an iPhone without also having a computer.
- eyver, on 10/10/2007, -1/+5Yeah, Apple!!! Pay attention to the Digg community, because they are totally representative of the general public!!!
- iChainsaw, on 10/10/2007, -2/+6Universal Cellphone Creation Law #9001: thou shall let your customers do anything THEY want with YOUR phone because you are NOT trying to make money by putting the phone into the market in the first place.
- RST1123, on 10/10/2007, -1/+5Well, you can shove your laptop where the sun doesn't shine.
See, I can be an ***** to you for buying something. - inactive, on 10/10/2007, -3/+7Why don't they want to allow 3rd party apps?
One word **SKYPE** - MacParrot, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4Or why did you even buy it? Did you try it beforehand? Didn't you realize it didn't do some of the things you wanted it to do? That's like buying a Toyota Prius and thinking "What a great car! Can't wait to shoehorn in a Ford 5 liter engine!"
- Hamletlere, on 10/10/2007, -1/+5Just so you know, some people DO buy a Toyota Prius, and hack in the European firmware so that it will run on the battery more often (improving gas mileage, but decreasing battery life).
*I* bought the iPhone to be a PDA... the phone part wasn't a big deal to me. With the 3rd party software available to me, it does that function just fine, so I'll be staying with the 1.0.2 firmware. - BenBenMan, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4You touch what?
- cleverboy, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4@r3zonance
This poll is clearly political and not a real measure of where people fall.
But, I guess that's what war is all about. Propaganda.
My answer would be:
+ I was sad to restore my iPhone and blow away my 3rd party apps, but like many thousands of people, I read that this major upgrade may have problems with 3rd party apps though more specifically UNLOCKED phones. I upgraded, and was impressed how much more stable my phone felt again in factory fresh condition with new settings, tricks, and iTMS. At work, I downloaded John Legend's "Get Lifted" album and a single by India.Arie. It was very nice. I'm hoping third party app support will return, but unfortunately, the same effort is being used to UNLOCK phones, and most people can't tell the difference, and because of that, people that do not want to UNLOCK their phone, end up avoiding 3rd party apps altogether due to misinformation. That said, part of me wants Apple to just announce its final 3rd party app solution. It will NEVER be full OS level support, but it may be better for performance and functionality than Web 2.0 solutions that while great, require Safari. Personally I think Apple's "Springboard" needs to support paging (like the Weather widget), rearranging the icons, shortcuts (like to a Safari bookmark and secondary areas in apps like the Clock or Phone), and wallpapers. Those changes alone would drive significant appreciation and mollify user gripes. Would I like AppTap back? Yes. Until Apple gets up to speed, I'll gladly use a hack if it doesn't damage my firmware. Am I under some delusion that this is why I bought my phone? No. Only stupid people bought their phone as a primary cellphone over all others, simply for the potential of hacking OSX.
That option would have been too long though. I know. -
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