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- MeniThings, on 11/28/2007, -17/+76What's interesting is how Apple stumbled when Jobs was kicked out of Apple. Only after his return did the company bounce back from near bankruptcy to become the innovator and leader in so many markets today.
Although there are still people today who naively view apple from a mid-90's perspective (the dreaded lack of hardware/software innovation from system 7 to system 9) and falsely perceive its products are 'rounded edged toys' or 'not serious', the truth is its computer OS and hardware pretty much blow away Windows and its associated hardware .
At this point there really is no reason to stick with the unstable, legacy-riddled, crash prone antiquated copy-cat that is Windows Vista. That is, as long as you're not hard-core gamer (thanks to Active X and some strong developer support from Microsoft).
I recently switched from a decade of Windows use (NT/2000/XP) not to mention 20 years of platforms (C64/Amiga/PC) to a MacBook at home and a MacPro at work. It was a total and complete revelation. Sure the UI looks great and offeres a logical and clean user interface, but what's truly impressive is the hardware/software's sophistication and depth. High levels of scriptability, robust and straightforward network control (with Leopard), superb hardware build quality, zero hardware conflicts, UNIX terminal control, and astonishing stability are some of the things that shame a Windows box.
After the Vista disaster I really can't see gong back to Windows. And I think a large part of this satisfaction can be directly linked to Jobs running Apple. - demonsnake69, on 11/28/2007, -8/+45Digg logic: All CEOs are evil except for Steve Jobs.
- inactive, on 11/28/2007, -4/+36And before someone comes here and tries to spin the old lie that Microsoft saved Apple. Let me drop some knowledge:
At the time that Microsoft agreed to make a $150 million dollar investment (which was sold five years later) in Apple stock, Apple had $1.2 billion dollars in cash, but Steve Jobs needed Microsoft to restart efforts to complete a new version of Office for Mac, which had languished for three years. In turn, Bill Gates wanted Apple to use Internet Explorer as their default browser and to settle several billion dollar patent disputes involving Windows and Quicktime.
Look and Feel Lawsuit: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Computer%2C_Inc ...
In 1997, five years after the lawsuit was decided, all lingering infringement questions against Microsoft regarding the Lisa and Macintosh GUI, as well as Apple's "QuickTime piracy" lawsuit against Microsoft, were settled when Apple agreed to make Internet Explorer the default browser over Netscape, and Microsoft agreed to continue developing Office and other software for the Mac for the next 5 years, and purchased $150 million of non-voting Apple stock.
Canyon Code Theft Lawsuit: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Francisco_Canyon_ ...
Later testimony in the U.S. D.O.J. Microsoft anti-turst trial revealed that, at the time, Apple was threatening Microsoft with a multi-billion dollar lawsuit over the allegedly stolen code, and in return Bill Gates was threatening with the cancellation of Office for the Mac. In August 1997, Apple and Microsoft announced a settlement deal. Apple would drop all current lawsuits, including all lingering issues from the "Look & Feel" lawsuit and the "QuickTime source code" lawsuit, and agree to make Internet Explorer the default browser on the Macintosh unless the user explicitly chose the bundled Netscape browser. In return, Microsoft agreed to continue developing Office, Internet Explorer, and various developer tools and software for the Mac for the next 5 years, and purchase $150 million of non-voting Apple stock. The companies also agreed to mutual collaboration on Java technologies, and to cross-license all existing patents, and patents obtained during the five-year deal, with one another.
Also see: http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0CGN/is_199 ... - Shizcake1337, on 11/28/2007, -34/+56Jobs is an *****, who agrees? =/
- TheWorm, on 11/28/2007, -8/+29An ***** maybe, but a charesmatic *****. No other company's events get as much coverage and hype. He can sell a product like no other.
- apersaud, on 11/28/2007, -3/+19One of the main reasons I respect Steve Jobs - not only has a business man:
Steve Jobs Stanford Commencement Speech 2005:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=D1R-jKKp3NA - Redemption289, on 11/28/2007, -6/+21Its hard not to be with a cult army behind you.
- LittleDas, on 11/28/2007, -2/+12I don't know about most powerful businessperson. Certainly he's powerful, but he's got a lot more in the way of influence and 'soft-power' than the sort of 'shape the world' kind of power I might expect to be at the head.
I mean, just for example, Steve Jobs and Apple created the iPod and revolutionized an industry, but Rupert Murdoch (jackass that he is) can shape elections. - demonsnake69, on 11/28/2007, -1/+11Google is up to something fishy, but at the moment I don't know what it is.
- ferrariman60, on 11/28/2007, -6/+15"An Internet Communications Device!" Might be the most absurd way to say that your phone has a browser ever. He is a dick, I've heard from someone with personal experience, but yes, he is very charismatic. No doubt about that.
- LittleDas, on 11/28/2007, -13/+21Checklist for a high ranked comment:
1. Praise Apple
2. Bash Vista
3. Praise Ron Paul
I guess 2/3 is still pretty good. - CraigJ, on 11/28/2007, -7/+15From a marketing and success perspective, Vista may not be a "disaster", but it certainly isn't the success Microsoft hoped it would be. From an ROI perspective you'd have to conclude that is it somewhat of a failure because Microsoft spent billions developing it, and cut most of the cool new stuff it was supposed to deliver. Most large it organizations are not deploying it because of issues with Active directory and a mix of XP and Vista, coupled with the fact that from the user's perspective it doesn't do anything better than XP, except that Aero looks cool, assuming your 3 year old machine is capable of running Aero. It is not a great OS, it is a perfectly good OS, but not not really any better than XP. For the record I use Vista and XP on a daily basis.
- inactive, on 11/28/2007, -0/+7Google it and find out.
- reeder, on 11/28/2007, -6/+13I agree, but the guy needs to mellow out hardcore. I have friends at Apple that have been chewed out by Steve for nothing at all, and then completely turn his attitude around 5 minutes later. Still, the guy knows how to get the best out of his people by creating a very intellectually stimulating workplace.
- jmnormand, on 11/28/2007, -4/+10Apple thrived on steve's vision and thats what kept the company competitive. It really not uncommon for a company to become stagnant or collapse after its founder leaves, especially companies at the level apple was at the time. the company just doesnt have any heart behind it anymore, and steve is definitely the heart and soul of apple. I really dont see anyone being able to replace him effectively.
- dn11, on 11/28/2007, -4/+10No way in hell. Creating a small cult of consumer electronics fanatics doesn't make you the most powerful business man in the world - in fact this whole list idiotic and western biased. Some oil Sheik living with his harem in Dubai is no doubt the most "powerful" in terms of global impact
- inactive, on 11/28/2007, -1/+7Actually of the 10 'business apps' I use for my job, 9 have native Mac versions. One doesn't (an inhouse tool), and for that I run it in XP via vmware. (I don't work in the graphics/media industry)
- houndeyex, on 11/28/2007, -3/+9"That is, as long as you're not hard-core gamer (thanks to Active X and some strong developer support from Microsoft)." ... I think you mean DirectX? ActiveX is a lame plugin system for IE.
- MeniThings, on 11/28/2007, -2/+7I actually installed Vista on my 2 year old VIAO laptop. It rendered 15% of my programs useless and caused massive instability. I was ready to go back to XP, but realized all my backup files were transfered to my new MacBook and MacPro and worked perfectly (XL, Word, Modo, Photoshop, etc). Whoever said business software doesn't run on a Mac is seriously misguided.
So it became obvious that I just needed to get rid of my PC once and for all. Best decision I made in recent memory.
I don't think I'm an Apple fanboy. In fact I really don't care what computer platform I use as long as it's the most advanced available for my job. I've switched over a half dozen times (C64/Apple II/MS DOS/early Mac OS /Amiga/SGI/Linux/Windows 3.1/NT/200/XP) in the last 20 years to stay ahead of the curve.
I'm very experienced in advanced computer use (scientific visualization, 3D animation, multi-platform animation studio pipeline and infrastructure, business applications) and for my money Apple OS X and its closely tied hardware simply blows away Windows right now. And honestly I don't see Microsoft catching up on Apple's increasing technological lead.
As for Apple's hardware cost, my MacBook cost the same as a similarly configured PC notebook, but has, in my subjective opinion, superior build quality, far better design/ergonomics, and better overall hardware integration
My work Dell Dual XEON workstation cost almost the same as a similarly configured MacPro. So again, I really don't see the difference in price. Now, I have built PC systems in the past and saved a lot of money. But these days I'm finding that a factory-built Mac is more desirable due to out-of-the-box usability and tech support.
So yeah, I prefer Mac's these days, and for very sound reasons listed above. If that makes me an Apple fanboy then so be it. I'll gladly accept that stigma if it means getting rid of Windows from my life. - inactive, on 11/28/2007, -1/+5...that sounds like engineering apps... most people aren't concerned...
- inactive, on 11/28/2007, -1/+5...and a Chevy and a Lexus are both cars... why should one cost more than the other?
- inactive, on 11/28/2007, -1/+5My time is worth a lot to me (I waste less on a Mac dealing with BS)... and I am also more productive and happy not dealing with virus' and spyware and all the other BS. You get what you pay for. I used Windows for ten years and became an operating system expert but not an app expert. Now that I am on a Mac I can concentrate on my apps.
- demonsnake69, on 11/28/2007, -3/+7Steve Jobs's "salary" as a CEO is like $1 or some other miniscule figure, but he gets a ***** of money from some other areas so this figure is crap. And maybe the world would be a better place if YOU worked in a soup kitchen, feeding the hungry, instead of wasting your time on Digg.
- ThatEvilGuy, on 11/28/2007, -1/+5Gordon Gekko is the most powerful, he can rip Apple to pieces like he did with Blue Star.
- mrBitch, on 12/02/2007, -0/+4canyon code theft of QuickTime media player assisted Microsoft in closing the gap between Windows slow and inefficient media player - 150 million was a cheap deal and got MS off the hook for code theft.
- blesbok, on 11/28/2007, -6/+9Ya, his company only has 20x the product sales, you are right, he has nothing on him.
- MeniThings, on 11/28/2007, -1/+4Actually I did 'upgrade' to Vista on my VAIO notebook. That was the very reason why I decided to go Mac-only.
Quite a few of my programs ran poorly (or not at all) on the VAIO. Ironically, all the PC docs that I transferred to my new MacBook ran fine. So it was a no-brainer. Instead of reverting back to XP, it dawned on me that I didn't actually need Windows any more. So I gave away my PC laptop. It was a big step after a decade of Windows use.
With the minor exceptions of lack of any-edge window resizing and path copy/paste, I haven't really missed Windows. On the contrary, I'm surprised just how much crap I had to put up with all these years.
Don't think I'll ever go back. - aaronjason8992, on 11/28/2007, -3/+5most of them are bald or balding?
- fugazied, on 12/04/2007, -0/+2Somone at work today spent 4 hrs and numerous phone calls trying to get 6 machines running activated Office 2003. Then they worried about anti-virus software for the windows PCs and the drama/cost of that. Meanwhile I am happily working away on the macbook pro, no viruses, running the great (and free) neo-office and a bunch of other great free apps. Why use windows again?
- blesbok, on 11/28/2007, -3/+5Ya, I bet he is living off of that $1, not billions of dollars of stock options and random other sources of income.
Besides being a slut, you are pretty damn ignorant too. - inactive, on 11/28/2007, -4/+6Blow Jobs rated the most powerful...
- inactive, on 11/28/2007, -2/+4Are you talking about Sony? I think you should've said "He can sell a product differently" :P
- CraigJ, on 11/28/2007, -2/+4What about Eric Schmidt?
- inactive, on 11/28/2007, -1/+3" a little common sense" = subscriptions and hassles with anti-virus, Zone Alarm, SpyBlaster etc...etc..etc... besides some of actually USE our computers and the internet.
- blesbok, on 11/28/2007, -1/+3I am really suprised that Fred Smith isn't on there, seeing as he revolutionized product delivery.
- surfing, on 11/28/2007, -3/+5sounds like he is bipolar.
- SteveTheSultan, on 11/28/2007, -3/+5*****. Jobs is good, but the most powerful businessmen in the world are the ones that own the banks.
- inactive, on 11/28/2007, -5/+7His salary of $1 he gets to avoid taxes and such? Yes, yes I know it.
- GawtMilk, on 11/28/2007, -1/+3Vista crashes. As does Leopard. As does XP. As does Ubuntu. Hell, even multi-million dollar infrastructures that the Government or Google uses crash. Everything crashes -- it's just a matter of what hardware it is, how closely the hardware was in mind in regards to the design stage.
I'm using a Hackintosh and Leopard has crashed four or five times in about ten hours of usage. XP has crashed about eight or nine times [GPU + CPU overclocks = yikes] in about a thousand hours usage on this machine. Vista hasn't crashed yet, but it did when I was installing DiRT on my friend's Vista laptop. - snugglebear, on 11/28/2007, -4/+5Any list which places Steve Jobs above Warren Buffett is meaningless.
- inactive, on 11/28/2007, -2/+3What about Bill Gates, Warren Buffet or Rupert Murdoch?
- TheWorm, on 11/29/2007, -1/+2Where were you hiding when the iPhone came out?
- streak, on 11/28/2007, -1/+2Clearly then, Fortune sees the future with the iPhone as a business platform, despite Apple's characterization of version 1 as being for consumers. Ah, sweet revenge to all the naysayers! :-)))))))
- bastardoperator, on 11/28/2007, -3/+4This just shows you how ***** retarded some of these mac lusers are! First of all his salary of one dollar has nothing to do charity, modesty, or being frugal.
Jobs takes a salary of one dollar so that he can write himself a bonus at anytime, and absorb preferred stock. Jobs knows a million dollars of stock today will be worth 10x in years to come. Rinse, repeat over the years and presto you're a billionaire. If anything some might consider this bucking the US tax system, although completely legal. - inactive, on 11/28/2007, -2/+3If it wasn't for pimply faced kids who are addicted to shooting people... why get Windows?
- USB2point0, on 11/28/2007, -5/+6The dude could sell you a $600 calculator with multi-touch and a crippled phone. Oh wait! he already did that!! =)
Seriously, props to the dude. He's got some powerful marketing skills. He actually works with the average consumer to get the device they [more or less] want. I very much believe the whole white design that Apple became known for was a gimmick to become unique, then start to mesh as a competitor. Even if it's not true, it's a good strategy. - chris9902, on 11/28/2007, -0/+1you're a ***** moron for so many reasons.
- Elranzer, on 11/28/2007, -2/+3Mindless retards are not that scarce in this country.
- jgtg32a, on 11/28/2007, -1/+2Was that the PDA that didn't come with a stylus?
- 1CHAMONIX, on 11/28/2007, -2/+3With the iphone, ipod, and new leopard OS Apple has really turned Microsoft's world upside down. Since Vista is struggling Microsoft is now trying to catch up to apple for the first time. Look out Bill Gates.
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