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- Iwantawii, on 11/06/2007, -3/+41This is a movement that you could help start right now. Got an old, slow, wireless router laying around? Consider plugging it into your existing wireless router, throttling it's bandwidth down to 10%, and opening it up for the community around you to use.
By lowering the bandwidth to this 2nd tier router you will thwart off those who might take advantage of your kindness by torrenting, pirating, pr0ning, or otherwise. But still you open up Wikipedia, Google, Maddox, or any other fountain of knowledge to someone around you who might not have the means of having the internet at home. Ever had your cable internet crap out for some unknown reason, but thanks to the neighbors' unprotected wireless connection you could still troll around online until your internet came back up?
We're trying so hard to get WiFi-like reliability and speeds on our mobile phones, iPods, vehicles, etc.. yet there's many times more than one protected WiFi signal is present and strong but unavailable to the community. Imagine pulling over onto any community street and having a WiFi signal to check maps.google. This is what the city-wide WiFi convenience is known for, but instead of waiting for them to come to your town, why not spread the word of opening up part of your connection?
Someone should create a router that has an additional access point for the community at large. Maybe packet block to keep the leechers out but email, web surfing, chat, why not? - sotopheavy, on 11/01/2007, -2/+39My neighbors are very unknowingly generous.
- EclipseMullet, on 10/31/2007, -5/+17This sounds like an idea definitely worth investigation by Apple.
- tubalcane, on 10/31/2007, -2/+13I'd want to know what IP shows up to the RIAA and FBI tracking child porn sharing. I'd open my Wifi if I weren't worried about people using it for stuff that is illegal.
- cristiv, on 10/31/2007, -2/+12Steve Jobs is very smart and he is following the money: "Backed by the likes of Google, Skype and Sequoia Capital, FON rose quickly ..." Good idea, and good for Apple for looking into it.
- williamdyer, on 10/31/2007, -0/+5Yeah, you'll avoid the moral decay sure to be visited on the bandwidth communists. Sharing is theft!
- jockser, on 10/31/2007, -2/+7But officer, we should share our WiFi connection, me and the coffee shop that I'm parked near, because Steve Jobs said so and he knows much better the us humans.
- ZPWeeks, on 10/31/2007, -1/+5Er.
You know that an unencrypted wireless network != physical access, right?
Physical access = they can physically touch your router. - geekchic, on 10/31/2007, -1/+5BT in the UK recently announced that it would support FON for its customers - that's 3 million potential users.
- Drax0n, on 10/31/2007, -2/+5That MAY be believeable if there were ANY virus's for mac OSX in the wild, less computers less virii right? according to your logic there should be houndreds of mac virus's to match up the the houndreds of thousands of windows virus's. But I bet you can't even list 10 conceptual virii and 0 that have actually infected mac osx computers in the wild. OSX is not more secure than linux, but they both beat windows handsdown.
- xerigen, on 10/31/2007, -0/+3I'm keen on a world where I can pay with cash.
- quazywabbit, on 10/31/2007, -0/+3I just say open it up for everyone and not throttle the bandwidth. My network at home is wide open for anyone to connect to, the most I did was change the username/password on the router config itself. I don't see the point of only allowing people to use 10% of the bandwidth since thats not sharing. I also want the option of using my neighbors wifi at full speed as well when my connection is down and I honestly am not afraid of another person do XYZ because thats not and its just bad karma to block access to someone. My point is if you are going to share then share otherwise don't bother because nobody wants second tier internet.
- inactive, on 10/31/2007, -2/+5It's against the terms of service of almost every ISP serving home users.
Who uses the word 'keen' anymore? - sittered, on 10/31/2007, -0/+2You are obviously a party pooper. :P
- JasonCox, on 10/31/2007, -2/+4Its about time the largets companies got in on Mesh.
- a3r0, on 10/31/2007, -2/+4Why is there suddenly so much spam in the comments?
- lochness, on 10/31/2007, -1/+3And sometimes... if you're really lucky... you get what you need...
- jkoke, on 10/31/2007, -0/+2Yeah... I mean if only they had the backing and support of the hottest corporation on the planet...
nah... - JustinHorne, on 10/31/2007, -1/+3Yeah... I'm just gonna ignore how, unless you create a DEVASTATING windows virus, nobody even cares, and that if you could create ONE working virus for OS X, you could EASILY cripple the whole Mac community, and gain instant recognition.
- geddon, on 10/31/2007, -0/+2Dugg for "bitch of a human being."
- joerod, on 10/31/2007, -0/+2why doesn't he share some of his last salary
- edolecki, on 10/31/2007, -2/+4i like this idea a whole lot. it would take a lot to get decent coverage in some areas, but i see a lot of upswing potential here.
- samm27, on 10/31/2007, -0/+1check out http://www.thegobutton.com - fits in with this vision.
- nullcodes, on 10/31/2007, -0/+1If someone facilitates this it would be good .. but it opens up the possibility of personal info being sniffed etc (an identity theif can try to own an access point). So to prevent identity theft they need to work out security so that the person running the wifi access point has no way of watching the traffic content.
- jkoke, on 10/31/2007, -0/+1See, you're not thinking about it right. You need to open your network and then you can do all that illegal stuff yourself and blame it on the phantom Wi-Fi moocher.
- quazywabbit, on 10/31/2007, -0/+1Or you could protect it so that they could not access it even if they got on the network rather than living in Fear.
- TeqnoHaxor, on 10/31/2007, -0/+1I've never ran encryption on my wireless access point(s). I'm blessed with a large download quota so I'm not particularly worried if someone wants to check their e-mail or Google something. I just hope that manufacturers start including easy to use bandwidth shaping options in to their wireless access points. I'm sure a lot of Digg readers would happily open up their APs if they knew that the unmarked white van parked out the front was getting all of 5KB/s.
- ruscoe, on 10/31/2007, -2/+3Not firmware, but http://nocat.net/
- DiggBelfast, on 10/31/2007, -4/+5I think one of the big positives about this is that outside users are "segregated" so that their traffic cannot be identified with yours. I would be uncomfortable with people using my connection for illegal or immoral purposes. It looks like this might solve that and protect the good users who share their WiFi connections with other Foneros. I'd go for this in an instant.
- Drax0n, on 10/31/2007, -2/+3And how exactly did they break it?
Are you going to claim they broke USB as well by popularizing it? making it visibly and readily available before all other PC manufacturers? because from what I have seen thats all they did with wirless and USB, its not like apple controlls the 802.1x standard. - webjoseph, on 10/31/2007, -2/+3I think Apple should consider some type of mesh-network opportunity as well. That way, not only can each connected node access the internet, but also relay it "around corners" to other recipients as well. I think some of this has been done at a hardware level, and in theory, should work on a software level. I think those $100 laptop has this tech built-in. If this was on every macbook, iphone, and airport hubs, we can get broader reach by daisy-chaining them to a certain number of hops. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mesh_network
- bremstrong, on 10/31/2007, -0/+1I'm surprised this link hasn't been posted yet:
http://www.pbs.org/cringely/pulpit/2004/pulpit_200 ... - lochness, on 10/31/2007, -1/+2You think YOU got problems.... Here in Australia we get 1.5Mbps/256Kbps too.... but we typically pay about $70 / month for less than 20GB of data. No ISP offers the "unlimited" connections you get in US. We pay for a block of data per month, once it's gone you are capped to dial-up speeds.
Good luck convincing people here to openly share the tiny amount of limited data they are already paying for :) - SOS84, on 10/30/2007, -0/+1Breaking news, Comcast will be flogging the internet connections of anyone using an Airport wi-fi station or Safari.
- HappyScrappy, on 10/31/2007, -2/+3Yeah, If I had just released an EDGE phone in Europe, where there is virtually no EDGE, I'd also be hot for people to share WiFi so that my product doesn't look like such a silly move.
- mrBitch, on 10/31/2007, -0/+1I like where they got "no cat" from : Albert Einstein, when asked to describe radio, replied:
"You see, wire telegraph is a kind of a very, very long cat. You pull his tail in New York and his head is meowing in Los Angeles. Do you understand this? And radio operates exactly the same way: you send signals here, they receive them there. The only difference is that there is no cat." - BossKey, on 10/31/2007, -1/+2Dugg because Drax0n's right. There are too many millions of Macs out there, and too many smug Mac users, to not be a tempting target. So how come there are no Mac viruses in the wild? It can't be market share, because market share is well above zero and climbing, therefore there should be well above zero viruses. But there are zero. Hm...something else must be saving Macs, like...the way the OS is designed and built, perhaps???
- P0isonM1nd, on 10/31/2007, -2/+3I knew someone would think of this eventually. It's an idea whose time has come. The future of the internet.
- issachar, on 10/31/2007, -0/+1Thanks. I'm checking it out.
- KingCook, on 10/31/2007, -0/+1Didn't you get the memo Steve Jobs is not GOD
- he has to play by the telco rules and always keeps fighting for what he wants even if the industry wants something else they are in a contract with AT&T - mrBitch, on 10/31/2007, -0/+1well, your comment would be totally correct, that is - if you use Windows as your OS. =)
- mrBitch, on 10/31/2007, -0/+1The future of the internet will go something like this :
" The Skynet Funding Bill is passed.
The system goes on-line August 4th, 1997. ( oops let's make that 2008 )
Human decisions are removed from strategic defense.
Skynet begins to learn at a geometric rate.
It becomes self-aware at 2:14 a.m. Eastern time, August 29th.
In a panic, they try to pull the plug. "
... but Skynet fights back. - galore, on 10/31/2007, -1/+1We live in a world where you can be sentenced to a stiff fine for sharing songs where you, the offender, are identified by an IP address.
Or worse, what if your IP address is associated with child porn?
You'd be negligent to the extreme in the current legal environment to share your internet connection with the world. - inactive, on 10/31/2007, -1/+1all this technology... what happens when people start getting lost in it all? http://www.collegehumor.com/article/tag:parents-ju ...
- dartmanx, on 10/31/2007, -2/+2Oh by the way, can I share a connection with a user of a South Korean ISP that gets 20x the bandwidth at half the cost?
- sudowrestler, on 10/31/2007, -0/+0You're right, but unfortunately the idea that Macs rely entirely on "security through obscurity" is like an article of faith among among the anti-Apple contingent. No amount of sound reasoning, stats, or plain common sense makes the smallest dent in it.
- r00tus3r, on 10/31/2007, -3/+3You're an only child aren't you? Jeeze you're one selfish bitch of a human being.
- P0isonM1nd, on 11/01/2007, -0/+0GET IN THE CHOPPA!!!
- Weather, on 10/31/2007, -3/+3Another fantastic idea from our hero!
- Thomaschaaf, on 10/30/2007, -1/+1I have a FON thing at home runs perfectly :)
Very wide spread in Europe.. -
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