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- toetagger, on 10/13/2007, -6/+72I'll stick to my free Nokia on T-Mobile and my MacBook Pro. The rest of my cash goes towards speed boats and hookers.
- suprememilo, on 10/15/2007, -1/+56go go gadget stock price!
- fishbert, on 10/15/2007, -4/+54The real question:
Will the iPhone Dev Team open up the iPhone (1.1.1) before or after Leopard? Now taking bets. - thewebguy, on 10/15/2007, -2/+31wow look at all the buzzwords in that domain: apple20.blogs.fortune.cnn.com
- dcipjr, on 10/15/2007, -2/+27I don't know if I buy this. Developers already have copies of Leopard -- why wait until the official release to offer a SDK?
- Avian00, on 10/16/2007, -1/+24Developers! Developers! Developers! Developers! Developers! Developers!
- liquidhalcyon, on 10/16/2007, -4/+26Cmon Jobs, what ever happened to "It's better to be a pirate than join the Navy."? You, sir, have joined that very Navy.
- DeaPeaJay, on 10/15/2007, -2/+23Do you have a source on that? because it sounds incredibly far fetched to me.
- RobotBuddha, on 10/15/2007, -2/+23"The iPhone was open to third-party software from day one, of course, as long as coders stuck to writing within the confines of the Safari development environment"
The second anything refers to having a web browser as the equivalent to a development environment, it should be tossed out as a source of anything but *****. This whole iphone thing feels a bit like massive stockholme syndrome. Apple's not going to let you do anything with the iphone that it can't already. I wish people who bought it would just be happy with their purchase, or at least come to terms with the fact that policy isn't going to change. Instead, we get these kinds of stories that hint the thing might actually be worth reevaluating as a purchase when it just turns out to be wasted time. - albiniak, on 10/15/2007, -5/+24Oh, the conflict. Is this a good sign of 3rd party apps, or is this a bad sign that Stevzie is only going to anoint certain developers that, surprise surprise, are going to charge for their 3rd party app? Man, and I was just starting like Navizon on the iPhone.
- Smoozle, on 10/10/2007, -1/+18And Blackjack. Actually, forget about the speed boats.
- bjarkebech, on 10/15/2007, -0/+13As long as they make the notes sync i'll be happy.
- franklymister, on 10/15/2007, -2/+15As an Apple user since my first Apple ][+ in 1981, and an iPhone owner, it just makes me sad.
Everyone can see just how amazing the iPhone could be as an open platform. There's this amazing device that could be the greatest handheld UNIX platform ever created, but Apple won't allow it to be what it could be. Steve Jobs has started to believe that only Apple knows anything about development, and the rest of us should just sit and wait for their next move.
Someone else, probably Google, will come out with a phone that's just as good, and open to all developers, and even I will say goodbye to my iPhone and jump to the more open platform. - Chewie67, on 10/15/2007, -1/+13S-P-E-C-U-L-A-T-I-O-N
- starlinkuk, on 10/15/2007, -2/+14You can have my two cents and thats it!
- hellathatguy, on 10/10/2007, -13/+22AND MY AXE!....... (imitates dwarf from lotr)
- whereiseljefe, on 10/16/2007, -3/+12You obviously don't understand the Jobs.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -2/+11Ditto. Except for the part about the Macbook and boats. Oh, and the Nokia part.
- betobeto, on 10/10/2007, -0/+9Like most other former 60s hippies that are benefiting themselves from the very system they were up against. And so it goes...
- milkmage, on 10/15/2007, -4/+13question: "why wait until the official release to offer a [sic] SDK?"
answer: because Jobs wants it that way? - inactive, on 10/16/2007, -9/+17Why the ***** is everything about Apple credited to Steve Jobs these days? Do you people realise the company employs thousands of people and in the case of a huge multinational like this it's unlikely that the CEO actually is the one strategising and deciding what is best for one little product?
- interrelate, on 10/16/2007, -3/+11They're releasing Leopard in 3 weeks? I didn't know that.
- kevinmotel, on 10/10/2007, -1/+8now why didn't that ever become an internet meme
- Gabberwok, on 10/10/2007, -3/+10Digg needs a "Buried for speculation" option.
- tracydanger, on 10/15/2007, -0/+7The thing I love about my palm pilot is that there are a ton of free apps available. One of the things I've been waiting for with the iPhone is to get legitimate (no hacking) 3rd party, free apps. That would totally suck if you had to buy each one. Especially for apps that should've come on the the iPhone in the first place.
- gbarger, on 10/16/2007, -4/+10Well, if you know anything about Jobs' history, you'd realize that he likes extreme control over every facet of his company. Although they are a multinational corporation, they don't have a large product base, and that's what's being controlled. This is what made people leave the Mac in droves and move to Windows because the Mac was so locked down in late 70s early 80s. I'm a very happy current OSX user, and have been considering buying an iphone even with the shortcomings. That said, I am seeing more and more control being placed over the products that are coming out of Cupertino. I still run windows, and I'm considering moving back to that as my primary computer because this is very reminiscent of what Jobs has done in the past and it only gets worse from here. I don't want to be completely tied to Apple when they tie everything up completely.
- sholt, on 10/16/2007, -1/+7They removed features!?!? Wha.. Which... *checks his iPhone*
*whew* 1.1.1 and they're all still there. You must be full of crap. - whistlerpro, on 10/15/2007, -0/+5Also, developers have Leopard, but they don't have a newer version of iTunes, so none of it works together yet.
- gbarger, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5Long-term, it's probably in Apple's best interest to release an SDK. Part of the ease of unlocking the phone came from the fact that it was also locked to developers, and more people care about development, than unlocking. If Apple can lock down the OS, but allow 3rd party development, then there won't be nearly as big a rush to unlock the software because most people are perfectly happy programming with an SDK. Why crack it when they can have legitimate software running on the most updated firmware and not have to worry about bricking.
- setrusko, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4I'm a huge Apple fan, but maybe this will finally make iPhone owners stop whining. They knew what they were getting into when they bought thing.
- inactive, on 10/15/2007, -2/+6yeah, mod the truth down as usual, retards.
- myerzman, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4Party at Toetagger's place
- cl1ck, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4What is it with everyone and the nay-saying. Jesusphone had so much hype that by the time anyone had the actual device in their hands and it failed to cure their leprosy it was declared complete crap. I own an unhacked v 1.1.1 iphone and I love it. It is the best phone I've ever owned and if this rumor comes true I'll be even more happy.
Is it wrong of me to have pay a couple of dollars to run an application I want? Is it wrong for the creator of the device and the operating system to make money of me using it? Is it wrong for apple to want their phone to run without the random crashes that installing a plethora of random freeware will inevitably cause?
I don't think so. - betobeto, on 10/10/2007, -1/+5Blame it on the extreme personality cult Jobs has built around his figure. In general terms, Steve Jobs = Apple, and vice versa.
Of course, it's anybody's guess how -or whether- Apple will be the big player it is now once Jobs steps out of the helm. And out of this world. - tnoy, on 10/10/2007, -3/+6How about, instead of just settling for what the iPhone provides or using another product, we try to get Apple to release a proper SDK which will benefit the community as a whole? Why shouldnt it be held to the same standards as all the other smartphones?
- pinchies, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Yeah, just hookers on t-mobile...
- ZPWeeks, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4No, I won't. Even if you are right (by reading the article, oh wow), I will still feel proud in digging you down.
- LawSchoolBound, on 10/10/2007, -4/+7a one time fee is understandable, companies should have the right to charge for a program that they make, but a subscription fee? Subscriptions make sense for some things, like maybe music, but not for software. If you only want one or two programs, you shouldn't be forced to pay again every month for their use
- Firehed, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3I won't believe anything I read until it's from a feed of a Stevenote. And I certainly won't believe something from some random sub-sub-subdivision of CNN.
I'm extremely confident that Apple will allow third-party development for the iPhone in time, and Leopard's release would make since. But if they attempt some sort of subscription service or not allowing free apps (sure, plenty of free stuff is crap, but some is fantastic), people are going to get thoroughly pissed. *Allowing* devs to charge for apps is fine, but taking the iPod games approach with only a couple devs allowed in and charging for absolutely everything is *****.
Apple seems to think that now they make a cell phone, they can behave like all of the other cell manufacturers. News flash! People bought Apple's cell phone because they held Apple to a higher standard - both in terms of usability/UI and in how they treat their customers. If they think they can pull a Verizon and (over)charge for every feature that should have been there in the first place and then keep billing you for it, they've got another thing coming. - cleverboy, on 10/15/2007, -0/+3Takes out almighty Jobso wand, and touches it to the creme da la creme of 3rd party apps:
Sketches, iBlackjack, Vnotes, ToDoList, Money, weDict (or something like it, with ability to download & delete dicts by itself), and Term vt100 (lol, okay, worth a try. But seriously, even with remote commands only and a little clean up for usability). I'd say, NES, but I'm not asking for the world here.
Some of these could easily figure into an offline-empowered 3rd party solution, others need to be native by nature. Sketches alone has come a LONG way, it numbers amongst the shortlist of "must have" apps currently in the group. I demoed it to a coworker today, and he had to shake his head. Snapping pictures, and annotating over them that way is extremely useful. - inkswamp, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Oh yeah, you're so right. I mean, I've spent a fortune on those XCode tools that Apple gives away for free. You're so right on the money there. Steve Jobs is a greedy snake who will only give development tools out for a payment. That's a much more plausible explanation than the fact that the iPhone was rushed out the door and that OS still has some rough edges to work out and an SDK release at this point would be an unmitigated disaster.
Cripes, I wish some diggers would grow up already. - manitoba98xp, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2The developers wouldn't all do that. A few would jump on the opportunity of an unexploited market, then so would everyone else, and you're back at Square 1. Sorry.
- manitoba98xp, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2The developers wouldn't all do that. A few would jump on the opportunity of an unexploited market, then so would everyone else, and you're back at Square 1. Sorry.
- gbarger, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2You hit the nail on the head there. The last annual financial report I read for AAPL, this was actually a concern for the company as well (It's been about 4 years though). The company is very much tied to Jobs because he really does make a lot of decisions about the end product. They probably have a succession plan already in place, but it's still worrisome. I don't remember the guys name, but there's basically one design engineer that oversees the Apple products, I hope he has a lot to do with the company when Jobs is gone.
- Lynxpro, on 10/15/2007, -2/+4A handheld device - especially one that is a mobile phone - needs to be more stable than a desktop. Same goes for other consumer electronics devices. Joe Consumer expects updates for computers, but other devices should work as perfectly as possible straight out of the box.
- streetstealth, on 10/16/2007, -0/+2Yes, he's always been kind of distant, what with locking me out and all, been kind of mean recently when he took away all my things... But I know he still loves me! I know deep down he does!
- angrycat, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2I hope this also means opening up the itouch.
edit: I mean IPOD iTouch, shame on me. - mludd, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3What? Apple computers were quite open back in the "late 70s early 80s", it wasn't until much later that they began locking down their computers. I think you've got your timeline a bit mixed up...
- newbill123, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2The timing surely has less to do with Leopard and more to do with Christmas. Imagine if news about some hacker's root kit spying on iPhone owners over Edge started making the rounds as all of those "Top 10 hottest gifts this Christmas" stories that would undoubtedly have included the iPhone.
I bet Apple's going to wait until sometime between MacWorld in January and WWDC in the spring to get their iPhone Dev Kit debugged and secure. - JaceFuse, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2T-mobile? So that's what they're calling crack these days? Who knew?
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