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- KissTheRing, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Steve should start him own record label that he makes little or no money on but the artist makes more, therein attracting artists to the proposed apple label. These songs could be sold a bit cheaper on iTMS and that is where apple would make a slim profit, that and iPod sales. So do it Steve, free the artist from the music industry fat cats.
- kindrobot, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Good job Steve! But this is what stood out to me:
Sony BMG CEO Andrew Lack said at a Reuters gathering earlier this year that Apple is benefiting from two revenue streams, sales of both the iPod devices and song downloads, while the music industry has only one.
"I'm not making any money on this," he said. "I've got one revenue stream that a proctologist would have a hard time analyzing. It's not pretty."
He's like a little kid who sees another kid with a toy he wants and instead of being a good kid and asking nicely he screams and kicks until he gets one too.
Why does Sony / BMG DESERVE a "revenue stream" from hardware apple designed manufactured and distributed? Does the music industry really assume it deserves a cut of EVERYTHING? What's next? A cut off guitar sales because they lead to future musical revenue "streams"?
beh. - skippy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I've been damned!
- psyonide, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2goat:
Of course he has his business in mind. Caring about profits is the a prerequisite for running any business, and to call a person "evil" on that basis alone is just plain stupid.
What I find impressive is that Jobs had the foresight to see through the reckless greed of the RIAA. That he has the ability to see that sometimes less is more puts him a cut above most other business execs, who probably would have raised prices at the drop of a hate, then wonder why most of their customers went elsewhere. - Claymore, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Software2...
In this case I dugg this version because it links to news.yahoo.com. Where as hypnotoad1 links to MercuryNews.com were in my case is asking for a stinking registration... - jhahl, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I read the article and saw no where in there that iTunes pricing won't actually increase. Sure, Steve Jobs says he's against it. But that doesn't mean when contracts are re-negotiated, the music industry won't fight back and up the price. I wouldn't get my hopes up yet... :(
- tryferos, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Never liked Steve Jobs....until now. About time someone like Jobs straight out says that the RIAA causes piracy to increase with their freakin greed. I buy my music from Itunes and have been happy with it and now I'm "legal".
- EnzanBlues, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1First of all, I know that when I submitted this it was a so called dupe, but if you didn't the notice, the link that hypnotoad used was to registration for mercurynews, so that is the reason why I "duped" it.
Second of all, honestly, do you really think that people would stop using iTunes, like goat2 says above? Sure Apple makes a killing of the ipod and itunes music store, but they do make money of of their computers. - JesseJ, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Yeah. Steve Jobs is the guy who runs the music business. Let's hear what Steve says about the oil prices.
- kubedawg, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1nice! steve is a smart man! people will buy more apple products now especially itunes.
- matthewpang, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0classic case of the fat old basterds at the RIAA getting greedy and killing something which is doing excellent
- riggzy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"everybody loses", as in, the record companies loses?
I'm not promoting piracy, by the way ;-) - EnzanBlues, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0It's good to see that they will be staying at the same price. That's a good idea kissthering. Doubt it will ever happen, but a good idea none the less.
- psyonide, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0God I hate typos.
- Dgen_X, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0...and because I'm scared of the big bad riaa
- mercury81, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Mad props to Steve Jobs, it is nice to see he isn't going to take crap from the record industry.
- squeevey, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0LtData -
The sad fact is that the price/song is more for downloads than to just by the whole CD. Yay for producers "recouping a big fat Mercedes."
Many people would say "well i don't want to buy the whole CD." That says to me that they want these bands to put out more bad music than good music because you are just going to buy the one song they play on your top 40 radio station. I would like to know how many buy the mp3 and then turn around end up buying the whole CD. - silentauthority, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0What a waste of time for the record companies.
- junkyinny, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0should still search for a story before ya submit yerself.. and way to be JOBS :) 99cents is still too effin much .. :)
- jholdaway, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Bravo.. Good form Jobs ol' chap.
- Dgen_X, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0damn skippy
I'm cheap, so I don't even buy music anymore...but I did stop pirating music because it's available at a decent price - gotamd, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0It's already overpriced more than enough. Good job Jobs.
- LtData, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Wow, finally somebody gets it right: Charge more for online music, people quit buying. Less (cost) CAN be more (profits), you idiots.
- ricodued, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0kissthering:
There already is an Apple record company (No relation to Apple Computer). - wolfpupmaui, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0The Apple Recording company was one the Beatles used to put their albums out on.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I agree with Spirion raise the bitrate
In addition to that lower the price a few cents or give price breaks to those who purchase more music.
Also another thing that pisses me off about iTunes is that you can't redownload something you've already purchased without buying it again!!! - F10x, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0WOW the first smart thing Job had sayed.
- bedouin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0A higher bitrate means less songs that can fit on your iPod. For most people, the current bitrate sounds fine, including myself -- and I used to be an audio buff.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0and in Future News
iTunes Has No Music Available - TechCowboy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I really don't see the music industry going after Walmart for their prices, which is even less than iTunes charge. Makes one go....hmmmmmmm.
- romper, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0The record labels are so short-sited it's frustrating! I think that if songs were 25 cents each, they'd sell to 10x as many people and they'd sell more music to each person. I know I'd buy more if it was only a quarter.
- CaptainCalculus, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0One thing that I like to hear is that by raising prices of songs and albums in iTunes will push people to piracy. It is not the time for price raises. It is time for a Price War if anything at all...
- muzzy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Joe_Mama.... do you really believe that? Pirating music is easy even for n00bs. In fact, I'd say it tends to be more technically savvy people who purchase from the iTMS. Better quality, good service, easy to find music. 99 cents is worth it to me, and unless you're working at McDonalds, should be worth it to anyone.
- saysaknow, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Kick 'em in the ass, Steve.
- zoltan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0they can get themoney back in the overpriced hardware :0
- jholdaway, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0How does every Steve Jobs / Apple story, no mater how flattering, always lead to hate posts?
Anyway thats besides the point, I think this article shows well that Jobs sees pirates and users trying to get a fair deal as different. Treated unfairly, the masses will turn away from legitimate downloads, and I agree. Like Leo Laport said today in "call for help" its has to be a balance between companies wanting to protect their investment and users wanting to use that property in a reasonable way. - jholdaway, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0lol.. how off topic is that? Thats where they make their money by selling great products with great software that runs only it at astronomical prices! Go apple!
Dell sells reasonable items for a reasonable price.. (if you wanted an alternative) - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0*Everybody thanks Steve: "Thanks Steve!"
*I'm such a fanboy! But does it look like I care what you think? NO! :D - goat2, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0its funny how you all praise steve jobs like hes some kind of damn savior for standing up to the record companies as if hes helping the little guy, you.
hes not doing you people a FAVOR, hes a businessman first and foremost and is every bit as evil as bill gates himself.
if itunes raised its price on account of the RIAA, no one would buy it. and isnt itunes in conjunction with the Ipod pretty much apples only saving grace right now? if people stopped using itunes and if it was resorted to only being used as a media player and not just a media player and music market, would people really still want to use it and get the ipod? sure they would but not as much and even though apple may not get as much money from selling music, its still brand recognition as well as selling the ipod.
if people stopped using itunes as much it would totally ***** apple.
so hes not doing you a favor, hes saving his ass. - kcappraiser, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0If they don't want to be greedy why don't they make an ipod that will play wma's from one of the download services. I know, that would actively work against them making money, but don't sit there and tell us they don't want to be greedy when clearly their whole business model is set up to limit competition from others. Say what you want about Microsoft, but I think that if Apple had their chance they would be 10 times worse.
- pcgeek101, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0"Software2...
In this case I dugg this version because it links to news.yahoo.com. Where as hypnotoad1 links to MercuryNews.com were in my case is asking for a stinking registration..."
It still happens when somebody submits the *exact* same link, which I agree, is very irritating. If somebody dupes the story, they need to admit that they were wrong, and promote the original poster. If you don't do that, then everyone gets into a big pissing match and makes a ***** site. So to those who complain about dupes ...you're damn right you should be doing that. - DrMerle, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0"Steve should start him own record label that he makes little or no money on but the artist makes more, therein attracting artists to the proposed apple label. These songs could be sold a bit cheaper on iTMS and that is where apple would make a slim profit, that and iPod sales. So do it Steve, free the artist from the music industry fat cats."
GODDAMN RIGHT, NOW THAT WOULD BE THE BEST MOVE APPLE EVER MADE. And also, I agree with the people who ask for higher bitrates, I want full CD quality if I'm gonna pay full price. I do realize the bandwidth would be a bitch, but there has to be a way to deal with that, bittorrent for instance. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0Some people use itune because they are n00bs and don't know how to pirate it. For a real skilled pirate, download a song is even easier than download from itune. When the day comes that anyone can be a skilled pirate, apple will go out of business.
- jicon, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0Apple hardware is still overpriced.
Don't throw stones in a glass house. - iFindout, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0The biggest load of baloney I've read from Jobs. Nobody's gone nowhere. The people that can afford to shell $1 per DRM song buys them, whoever can't or won't, because of BS DRM, won't. As you were!
- KissTheRing, on 10/12/2007, -2/+0hynotoad you're a nascence to digg. So you submitted a similar story a little before this guy, why don't you go cry about it. This guy got more diggs. Perhaps others are doing what I do, ignoring the story when I see your name on it.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+0Why do people keep digging dupes after somebody has revealed the first posting?
- hypnotoad1, on 10/12/2007, -3/+0http://digg.com/apple/Jobs_says_no_to_iTunes_price_hike
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