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- Chewie67, on 10/12/2007, -3/+31"A lot of times, people don't know what they want until you show it to them."
As a software and web developer, I can tell you that this one is absolutely true. It's much easier to look at something and say "I love it" or "I hate it" than to describe exactly what it is you love, and exactly what you want. - weprin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+25Welcome to the front page.
- Crackshot, on 10/12/2007, -5/+26Unfortunately yes,
a flame war the likes of which we have never seen.
I can smell the rockstar and cheetoh flavored cologne of fanboys on both sides preparing themselves for the launch of massive rants already.
/put the women and children to bed - JGuest, on 10/12/2007, -1/+20I'm sick of hearing this. Digg is about user-submitted content, if it gets enough "diggs" it makes it to the front page. Kevin Rose, who created the idea of digg, submitted a story about running the other week. How is a schedule of running news? It's not, but it obviously interested enough people to make it to the front page. Get over yourself.
- Greyarea, on 10/12/2007, -1/+19They missed my favourite. From 'Triumph Of The Nerds' (and from memory, so probably wrong in some details):
"I have no problem with Microsoft's success. They've earned their success (mostly).
My problem with Microsoft is that they have no taste and make really 3rd rate products." - PathDaemon, on 10/12/2007, -2/+19Flame off.
- zang74, on 10/12/2007, -0/+14@flag564
Wow, and again you've shown that you continue to contribute absolutely nothing to Digg, and all you do is troll the Apple community. Explain to me why you don't block Apple stories again? - PathDaemon, on 10/12/2007, -6/+19You do know what would happen if this hit the front page, don't you?
- duzbin, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11I agree with what you say, which puts me in a very difficult position...
I should digg you up, but you have just mentioned all three, so I must digg you down... - Lumiras, on 10/12/2007, -2/+12Nice quotes. It's interesting that some of the things he said that probably sounded crazy at the time, like "iTunes is going to revolutionize music" and "Pixar will be the next Disney" turned out to be quite true.
- pixelperfect, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9No, Steve Jobs said this before he came back to Apple in 1997. He was 100% correct back then, they needed to stop fighting Microsoft and just be the best at what they were doing.
Nowadays ... Apple should/can fight... - weprin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9"It's really hard to design products by focus groups. A lot of times, people don't know what they want until you show it to them."
An "Amen" for all of us software developers. - mrfreeziexp, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9Ha, I remember that one.. I love that..
- skribble, on 10/12/2007, -4/+13Well, if the difference here is that generally what Steve Jobs says is brutally honest (at least in his mind and the time he is saying it... he's been know to... ummm... change his mind), that's the magic of the reality distortion field or whatever. With Bill Gates it seems whatever he says has some hidden agenda. So really I don't think we'd ever be having this conversation about Bill Gates (besides he really doesn't ever have anything that memorable to say... hell he wrote an entire book of not so memorable stuff).
BTW: anyone who says something like "I'm sure this will get sunk" is obviously writing a bunch of BS for some sick sort of "oh I'm so cool that you just don't understand me" sort of delusion. You are not cool, you are just wrong. - iigloo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7I think he was talking about the iMac there. The iMac got introduced in -98 and kinda ''saved'' Apple. Or at least got them back in the game...
- unloud, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7""Why would I ever want to run Disney? Wouldn't it make more sense just to sell them Pixar and retire?"
-- Fortune, Feb. 23, 2004"
Wow......just wow - xutopia, on 10/12/2007, -3/+9In the mean time it still asks 10 minutes of your time to install a debugger on Windows and 48 seconds to do so on a Mac.
Did I mention working with 24" monitors and how the pre-90s way of resizing windows doesn't cut it anymore? Maximize button on OS X is way ahead of what Windows has to offer. - totorototoro, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Oh come on, how can you write about Steve Jobs quotes and omit his comment about the Segway?
"What does everyone think about the design?" asked Doerr, switching subjects.
"What do you think?" said Jobs to Tim. It was a challenge, not a question.
"I think it's coming along," said Tim, "though we expect—" "I think it sucks!" said Jobs. - chaos386, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Definition #2 from the Random House Unabridged Dictionary:
"manner or style of expressing something in words; wording: [example:] a manual of official verbiage."
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/verbiage - oOLiquidNightOo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5"You know, I've got a plan that could rescue Apple. I can't say any more than that it's the perfect product and the perfect strategy for Apple. But nobody there will listen to me."
-- Fortune, Sept. 18, 1995
you've got to assume, but i wondered if he was specifically talking about the ipod? i'm not hardcore on my ihistory, anyone have an idea? - zang74, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5But flag, you do much more than just "look" at these stories, you actively comment on them, demeaning and belittling anyone who posts something pro-Apple. To me, that shows you have no life yourself, if you find the time to tell people how little life they have.
- meatmcguffin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Uh......So you're saying Mac's are better at creative stuff like photoshop which is true.
But macs also run Microsoft Office better than XP does.
So what exactly makes windows better for work? - neom, on 10/12/2007, -7/+11I don't mean to sound rude, but what you mean to say is:- Microsoft have increasingly taken the road of copying apple innovation for their operating system.
I understand how that might be confused with them becoming similar. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4MASTER OF CATCHY PHRASE
- JamieBarrows, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6The copying of interface ideas goes both ways. Though most of the Mac fan-boys here will say differently. I personally prefer Linux, but if an idea is good, whether it originated in the MS, Mac, or Linux camp doesn't really matter.
- stalefries, on 10/12/2007, -7/+10I'm gonna digg down any comment that even mentions "fanbois", flaming, or Apple-hating. This is a bunch of quotes, for goodness' sakes!
- nfxmedia, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4My personal favorite: "It scrolls like butter."
- flashboy131, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3@miles
Let it go dude. - kidtwist, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I don't think that's accurate. Perot was likable and nuts. Jobs doesn't come across as either of those things. He seems smart, extremely confident, but he doesn't seem to me to be likable. I like most of the products his company makes, but I don't think I'd like to meet him.
- oOLiquidNightOo, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5that was a pretty weak call to arms. maybe you should've threw in a obligatory "FREEEDOM!" or something at the end.
- skribble, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4@neom:
"Microsoft have increasingly taken the road of copying apple innovation for their operating system. "
This is not entirely true, MS has done quite a bit of innovation (and not just in marketing either.) Seriously I use and prefer Mac OS X, but to discount MS as just some lame copy-cat is naive and wrong. They have done quite a bit, and have come with a number of revolutionary ideas about computing, especially in the enterprise and development space, there biggest problem may be dreaming up stuff thats so cool and innovative that they can never deliver on it, and the fact that they have for years had to deal with a gigantic monolithic mess of a code base in many of their core products with the end result of hampering most of the innovation they achieve.
Most of the time MS actually copies Apple (or tries to respond to Apple would be a better way of phrasing that) they fall far short (Have you seen the new Vista interface? it's like some evil mutant OS X... only painfully slow, and again hampered by MS's past). - smohan123, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3I wonder if the people that post these kinds of stories are really digg trolls... It all adds up to be that way. Damn.
- dstrube, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3@Chewie67
"What's new is this amazingly efficient distribution system for stolen property called the internet -- and no one's gonna shut down the internet."
Also true - SteveMax, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Go to any scientific lab. See the computers those people are using: most of them are using Macs. Is science is serious enough for you?
- stalefries, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3The article is 3 pages, here's the print version:
http://www.wired.com/news/culture/mac/1,70512-0.html
Good thing he's not a politician, or everyone would be all over him for some of the things he says. - nofrak1, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4jobs is the Ross Perot of technology. Witty, successful, well liked, and possibly totally insane.
- slimbilly, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2has he really said anything that isn't true or was incorrect? i mean, granted, a lot of it was hyperbole, but still, was any of it not in some way correct?
- unloud, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3Not a tech comment.
Buried. - tnwake, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1How is it i can find this through digg.com/view/all, but when i go to digg.com it says digg is down..
- spiritamx79, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2i don't know if apple is really ready to 'attack' but you do have to admit, steve jobs really turned apple around from what Gil Amelio's dumbass did
- treelovinhippie, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2"Scrolls like butter" is my favourite
- dfekke, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Wired missed my favorite Jobs quote: "Focusing is about saying No". 1997 developers fireside chat.
- aleahey, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2A bunch of self-inflating quotes and:
"If I were running Apple, I would milk the Macintosh for all it's worth -- and get busy on the next great thing. The PC wars are over. Done. Microsoft won a long time ago."
-- Fortune, Feb. 19, 1996
Obvious points. Yeah, verbal genius. - foxhoundadmin, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1"You do know what would happen if this hit the front page, don't you?"
it will be the second time this has made it to the front page? - ignavus, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3too bad the editors at wired don't understand what "verbiage" means: "abundance of words without necessity or without much meaning; excessive wordiness" according to the OED 2. to accuse someone of "brilliant verbiage" is not a compliment.
- nstanosheck, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2This is scary:
"I've always wanted to own and control the primary technology in everything we do."
-- BusinessWeek Online, Oct. 12, 2004 - drafhk, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1yeah i know, that was the point. Way to go dumbass.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Brilliance?
- infimprob, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0"(Miele) really thought the process through. They did such a great job designing these washers and dryers. I got more thrill out of them than I have out of any piece of high tech in years."
If I was using a washer and dryer in such a way I would get a thrill out of it too. - Standeck, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0Not so famous quote Steve said to me:
"I guess that's insanely great enough!" -
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