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- nwoantibody, on 02/10/2009, -4/+74well its not like im paying for it now..
Yaaarrrgg - PHJames88, on 02/11/2009, -8/+56Don't worry, they'll launch "QuickTime Pro Pro".
- digitalpencil, on 02/10/2009, -2/+38about ***** time.. QT Pro is a great app but it's not like anyone pays for the serial anyway. I guess this part of SL's inclusion of QT-X.
- outoforder, on 02/11/2009, -2/+30paying for quicktime pro is bunk.
- Murdats, on 02/11/2009, -2/+28now with more apple logos!
- SRSco, on 02/11/2009, -2/+22Not that the 45 seconds it took to find the serial number on the internet was that difficult.
- StephanCom, on 02/11/2009, -2/+22Good riddance, I always thought it was lame of Apple to charge for that
- insomniacal, on 02/11/2009, -0/+17Throw in Mobile Me for free, too!
- HappyScrappy, on 02/11/2009, -2/+19About ***** time. I can buy a $2700 machine from Apple and still have to pay another $30 for "Pro" QuickTime?
- tnoy, on 02/11/2009, -1/+15The brushed aluminum textures are even brushier than the previous!
- digitalpencil, on 02/11/2009, -9/+20never had that problem.. something's wrong with your machine.
- t0ny, on 02/11/2009, -3/+13Right because Apple does not have a majority share of the market and they are not just doing it to squash smaller businesses!
- Auzy, on 02/11/2009, -5/+15Did you mean a $2700 machine from Apple which only offers a single 8800 512MB video card (no 9xxx series or GTX ### series)? And none which offer Core i7 yet? Or a workstation level card with less then 2GB of VRAM (power users prefer outdated "apple" quality video cards anyway which cost the same price as faster PC ones).
Or the wonderful LCD panels they use. Its perfectly okay if they are a bit off-colour and have a slower response then other LCD panels. After all, CS4 offers so much more on OSX (apparently). And the mighty mouse is certainly a unique experience....
I'm sure that Snow Leopard will be 4x faster then windows 7 (after all, it has to be considering that the best hardware being offered is MUCH slower then the equivalent PC hardware, and the fact that the beta's cost developers a fortune). I am even more confident that Apple's implementation of OpenCL will easily compete against the performance of Nvidia's implementation (who have been been offering similar libraries on Windows now for a LONG time).
Sounds like the money you are paying for these incredibly overpowered machines is well worth it. You should be happy to pay an extra $30, as the computers themselves are obviously a great deal. - utnow, on 02/11/2009, -0/+10Huge difference between bundling software to be sold directly to an end consumer... and forcing manufacturers to include said bundled software, and NOT to install other similar software, at the risk of losing the rights to install the original software in the first place.
- Radan, on 02/11/2009, -2/+11QuickTime for Mac != QuickTime for Windows. On the Mac, QuickTime is actually far better than VLC in both speed and stability. The only time I use VLC is when the movie is packaged in some weird format no one has ever heard of which QuickTime for some reason can't play (which is quite rarely with Perian installed)
- mrBitch, on 02/11/2009, -0/+8Also interesting about that QT Pro serial number is that every time there is an Apple QT version auto-update, that serial number has NEVER been blocked by Apple.
It's like Apple doesn't seem to care about trying to block or "report back" on any of it's software... Now that's a REAL "genuine advantage". - HappyScrappy, on 02/11/2009, -1/+9Products doesn't start with a "D".
Apple may not do everything right, I think it's kind of tough to use the iPod as a case study in doing things wrong.
I can't defend the developer fees thing.
However, in terms of QuickTime Pro prices, QuickTime Pro + Mac OS X is still cheaper than a boxed copy of Vista ($223 for home edition), so saying Apple is raking their customers over the coals compared to MS is kind of a stretch. - thenikola, on 02/11/2009, -3/+11Actually it's called "QuickTime Pro Extreme"
- digitalpencil, on 02/11/2009, -0/+7especially back in the day when you couldn't full-screen.. wtf was that about?!
- Auzy, on 02/11/2009, -1/+8I think you are one of those dummies who don't realise that quicktime pro simply used the normal quicktime API anyway. Apple was charging for functionality that was accessible by other developers.
Furthermore, you are probably one of those dummies who thought people who paid for a video iPod should have to pay extra to encode video's for it if they want to use the officially endorsed means of doing so. - Altanar, on 02/11/2009, -8/+15The ONLY reason I have Quicktime is because it was bundled with iTunes. If I want to watch a video, I do it in VLC.
- HappyScrappy, on 02/11/2009, -1/+8Actually, I was referring to a $2700 machine that comes with a 7300GT! Although I see it's a Radeon 2600 now. An 8800GT is $150 more! What a steal for a video card that's only 18 months out of date!
The backlights are a bit purple on the Apple displays, but I'm not bitching about the response. If you want fast, you can have your crappy-looking TFT panel, I'll take the slightly slower IPS and MVA type panels Apple uses (and are in the Dell 2405FPW I'm using right now).
BTW, we're both off, the Mac Pros are actually $2800, not $2700! Although if you go down to only a quad core it's $500 less. The $2500 for the mid-range 15" laptop and $2800 for the 17" laptop really blow me away though.
Mighty Mouse is crap. I won't even take the effort to unpack it from the box. - mrBitch, on 02/11/2009, -0/+7@ jcsoc, you call others out as morons, yet you can't spell "paid".
Oh the irony! - t0ny, on 02/11/2009, -1/+6"Apple is without doubt the most incideous, user lock in, 3rd party vendor lock out, big bully out there, in a big brother lets control everything kind of world they make Microsoft look like a bunch of panzies."
Other then the DRM on the iTunes media Apple in no way locks you into their platform. Microsoft does it a LOT more then Apple has ever has. Lets see, DirectX, ActiveX, IE, Visual Basic, .Net... I could go on.
You are wining about $300? The full version of visual studio is over $1k and the MSDN is even more! With that $300 you get beta versions of the os, you get full versions when its released. And for free you get all the docs you need to developer. - Dotcommer, on 02/11/2009, -0/+5Ah yes, insecurity about your own platform/product/service etc...
The heart of EVERY fanboy, and basher. If you're so confident in the software, hardware etc. that you use, then you wouldn't have a need to defend yourself, and nay-say about others who don't do as you do. - digitalpencil, on 02/11/2009, -0/+5tend to use QT more than VLC just cause I can scrub with multitouch. that and it doesn't have a separate controller.
- Auzy, on 02/11/2009, -4/+9Its rediculous that Apple has taken so long to do so. In fact, it wasn't even possible to buy it in store, one had to jump online (MANY people complained they didn't want to use a credit card online, and that we were wasting their time by sending them there). The serial numbers only worked for a single major version too, so users had to do this every year.
Furthermore, Apple initially demanded users buy Quicktime Pro to encode video's for the iPod Video's when they were first released. So after paying a fortune for an MP3 player, Apple decided they deserved even more money so users could actually use them (without having to pay for movies on ITMS). Fortunately third party developers eventually came to the rescue though.
- hongkongjapie, on 02/11/2009, -0/+5Last time I developed for windows I was set back quite a huge amount to get VC++ that wasn't crippled. XCode is free and quite usable. The iPhone SDK and tools are free and come with a simulator to test most things, access to portal is only 100$. Free ADC membership gives you access to a reasonable amount of resources, if you're a professional developer please don't kid me that you're have problems with the membership fees of $499 or even $3499 for premier. Wonder what this 300$ fee what you paid is for.
Although there are many cases of Apple ''locking customers in', they also support many open frameworks and open source many projects. Their software is often more standards complaint than MS, do the ACID tests with IE or Safari and shiver.
It looks you're either afraid of working on something different than you're used to and thus are bashing it as defence mechanism or you're just trying to being cool by being an Apple basher because it's the thing nowadays.
Apple is far from perfect and really can use some opening up of a few of their platforms but I think the iPhone is delivered with a decent set of tools for a quite affordable price and for a consumer targeted phone it's actually quite 'open'. - Seidoger, on 02/11/2009, -1/+6It ain't really for the "format".. Anyway no one uses .mov anymore, even apple, its all MPEG4. Its proprietary, but it's a standard at least. More for the export features of QT Pro that i use it, id say.
- LiquidSpark, on 02/11/2009, -10/+14My god... So Apple actually charges it's (suckers) customers for it's proprietary format, on it's proprietary OS, running on it's (overpriced) proprietary hardware? Man! I gotta hand it to them, they have their (suckers) customers on lock.
- inactive, on 02/11/2009, -0/+4It is so much more than a media player, and the player part comes unlocked. Can VLC render straight into a podcast format? Can it create .MOV and .m4v? Mixed with flip4mac can it render .WMV? Can Windows movie player do any of the above?
Actually can the rather otherwise awesome Widows Media tool you can download for free convert into .mov or .m4v? I think not, wether you pay extra or not.
I paid for it, and have used it's features to make money since. Can't remember last time i used it to watch a video, and their lies the reasoning i'm sure.
IF it's unlocked, i wuld have thought watching video through iTunes on a mac is making quicktime irrelevant EXCEPT for rendering video or watching .WMV (A format that is quickly being made pointless). Quicktime Pro mixed with flip4mac studio is an incredibly powerful and inexpensive tool for a video maker.
Frankly, people moaning about quicktime are not using it to full potential... or are Mac haters jumping on their silly bandwagon.
No idea what you are talking about people. - nikhil1986, on 02/11/2009, -0/+4...and I'll still manage to get the serial. They should really not be charging for QT Pro. The features should be offered for free. Apple gets away with SO much nonsense
- cobbs, on 02/11/2009, -0/+4Hey Micktion,
You've clearly got issues. It's hard to be take you seriously when your fanboy rant makes you sound like a fanboy of a different stripe. Give credit where credit is due. Mac OS is a good and viable OS and they are superior to their competition when it comes to product design (that is an attribute of the purchase and a reason the price is higher - kind of like how people are willing to pay more for a European car than an American car, superior design).
If they have to be a bully (which I don't think they are) to make superior products (all aspects considered) then that's ok with me. If it's not ok with you buy/use something else. But ultimately I don't think having to learn the "crummy" iphone SDK could be nearly as painful as having to constantly deal with IE6 when I am doing web dev. If the SDK is crummy what is IE6?
FYI Mac + PC + iphone + Xbox user - BillCStickers, on 02/11/2009, -1/+4I think it's about time you look back into it. With perian installed it runs just about anything.
- BillCStickers, on 02/11/2009, -0/+3Why?
- tama00, on 02/11/2009, -0/+3reported.
- mrBitch, on 02/11/2009, -1/+4@ Radan RE: "QuickTime for Mac != QuickTime for Windows. On the Mac, QuickTime is actually far better than VLC in both speed and stability."
Agreed, and well said. - Twee, on 02/12/2009, -0/+3Apple doesn't bother investing in adding things to check for pirated software because it just makes things a pain in the ass for everyone, and they aren't losing a significant portion of income from pirates.
- rakeshishere, on 02/11/2009, -0/+3QuickTime Ultimate Edition
- leamanc, on 02/11/2009, -0/+3QuickTime Pro is actually an intuitive, user-friendly and powerful video editor. It does the vast majority of what people want out of a video clip editor, making it easy to trim out unwanted parts, stitch together multiple files, etc., and export to many popular formats, in a very easy fashion. Its use has only waned by putting all the good parts in the Pro version (something that only started with QuickTime 4). Macs can do so many great things with different media out of the box, so it's only natural that all of QT's features should work out of the box too.
- PixelPusher74, on 02/10/2009, -8/+11I just hope Snow Leopard is less buggy than 10.5x.
I can pull up a file in one window. Then search for it in another window and the OS can't find it. (to name 1 bug)
I LOVE the fact that it won't be such a memory hog though. - t0ny, on 02/11/2009, -0/+3Um. VS Express is not my point. My point was you can get the FULL xcode for free, you can't get the full visual studio for free. Free and lockin are two different things. I guess I'm wrong about .net. But for example games written with activex only work on windows and xbox. Which is lockin. While games in opengl work with windows, mac, linux, ps3, wii and so on.
- mrBitch, on 02/11/2009, -0/+3@ cobbs, agreed, but Micktion also (conveniently) forgot that Apple's version of Visual Studio 2008 is just a LITTLE cheaper than Microsoft's prices (and no, VS Express is NOT equivalent to the full VS 2008 Pro).
1. MS Visual Studio 2008 ( IDE for Windows ) : $2,920.20 (AU)
2. Apple Xcode ( IDE for iPhone and OSX ) : Free - suntzusputnik, on 02/11/2009, -2/+5pablo/nop
- J16T3CH, on 02/11/2009, -1/+4Not really, considering it's always been a separate upgrade. QT comes preloaded on OS X, is free on Windows, and has the upgrade to pro.
- Auzy, on 02/11/2009, -2/+5I live in Australia, and not really knowledgable about American pricing.
But yeah, when Apple releases a critical peripheral like a mouse which every employee in a Apple Premium reseller REFUSES to use, that they have lost touch with reality. Sooner or later, people will realise that heavy marketing only goes so far.
What I find incredible is that Apple has thus far managed to realise a laptop with multiple video cards, that on any PC would be used in an hybrid SLI configuration. Yet, Apple users still insist that OpenCL will overcome the shortcomings of SLI, without recognising that some applications need more graphics computation then general purpose computation. And that Windows not only provides SLI, but Nvidia and ATI will also offer OpenCL for windows.
And I can't believe that people have lost all common sense and are rushing out to buy computers whose options for additional hardware support is severely restricted by the operating system (and in the case of the laptops, by installing an inbuilt battery) - digitalpencil, on 02/11/2009, -0/+3^ that's where QT-X comes in, better codec integration and GPU acceleration. Quicktime is ***** on win but it really is a great on os x. No easier way of doing quick cuts, just slide the in and out and drag off the frame!
- inactive, on 02/11/2009, -1/+3yeah just what we need.. more bloatware added to bloaty-takes-over-my-pc-and-sits-in-my-ram-doing-***** quick time VLC FTW!
- kevine, on 02/11/2009, -2/+4Silly Apple. QuickTime Pro always came free with Google:
http://www.google.com/search?q=quicktime%20pro%20s ... - mrBitch, on 02/11/2009, -2/+4@ utnow, well said.
@ tnoy, Wow, you just got served :
"Huge difference between bundling software to be sold directly to an end consumer... and forcing manufacturers to include said bundled software, and NOT to install other similar software, at the risk of losing the rights to install the original software in the first place. -
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