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- erkayae, on 10/12/2007, -7/+57By the power of grayskull!
- chrisxkelley, on 10/12/2007, -3/+39on windows, it's great.
on mac? it's a bloated, memory leaking piece of crap. - spiderroll, on 10/12/2007, -1/+29You can type in a URL in full-screen mode by moving your cursor to the top of the screen... a little translucent address bar, actually.
- kethraal, on 10/12/2007, -2/+19"which is funny, because its Evil of MS to do that, but not Apple...interesting..."
Now I know you're trolling, but I'll respond anyways because... what the hell... it's 2:30 PM and it's better than work:
MS got in trouble not for including IE with the OS, but for tying it into the core of the OS. If you removed IE, you effectively crippled the OS (at least until we figured out how to hack it out.) The point is, they tried to make it impossible to remove from the core OS.
Mac OS X is nothing like that. Safari.app is an application bundle, just like all the other pre-installed apps. If you remove it from your Applications folder, then that's it -- it's gone.
I have no problem with a company including a seperate product of theirs with another product of theirs. I do have a problem with them merging the two, and forcing the purchase of one with the other.
Big difference. - RomeyRome, on 10/12/2007, -0/+16I was all like "OOOHHH" at first, but the novelty of it wore off pretty quickly.
- wedges, on 10/12/2007, -3/+15if this thing gets adblock, i might switch
- Quix, on 10/12/2007, -5/+17Definitely a beautiful app. This is one of the big things we OS X users love - the high quality of third-party apps. I look forward to putting Shiira through its paces.
Love the full-screen browsing, but one thing I'd like to see: a way to type in a URL while in full-screen mode. If there's a way to do this, someone please let me know how. If there's not, how about a little translucent address bar that pops up with Command-L? That would be a nice enhancement. - roosterjm2k2, on 10/12/2007, -3/+15MY BROWSER HAD IT BEFORE YOUR BROWSER
NANA NANA BOO-BOO
sounds like first grade guys, who the hell cares who had it first, its a good feature. End of story. - Septimus, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11Ouch, it's as broken as the beta... they shouldn't have released this as 2.0 yet.
- Jorlwind, on 10/12/2007, -2/+12Shiira is good, but I still like Webkit better. A little bit snappier, and the extra Shiira features don't really attract me.
Here's some photobucket screens.
(Yes, I know that they'll go down, but its too late to go register an account somewhere else. I'm tired as hell. You can take them and host them under your account since Shiira project managers haven't updated their screenshot gallery)
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o89/jorlwind/Picture3-2.png
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o89/jorlwind/Picture2-1.png
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o89/jorlwind/Picture1-9.png
On a third note, I don't exactly approve of a release that has, "We know that Shiira 2.0 still has some problems. We are working for them, and you can get fixed version via Appcasting technologies embed in Shiira 2.0." written in the announcement. - chrismcelligott, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10It's still extremely incomplete and unstable, not chance in hell would I switch from Camino at the moment let alone Safari. Why the developers decided to go 2.0 already I don't know
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8seems very broken
go to you tube and close a tab wow you still get sound
ive had like 15 javascript errors also.
expose windows have no frames
i wish the app worked better though. - iigloo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8Yes, but he's talking about the WebKit Nightly Builds. http://nightly.webkit.org/
- eihwaz, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8Move your mouse to the very top of the screen, it will show the menu bar and a basic address bar.
And I'm posting this comment using Shiira :)
EDIT. Oh well, someone has already replied, sorry. - mancat, on 10/12/2007, -4/+11It's She-Ra though... But I got it.
- therearenorules, on 10/12/2007, -5/+11Try these optimized Firefox builds. They're great.
http://www.beatnikpad.com/archives/2007/03/29/firefox-2002 - clesch, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5It's pretty, but it does seem awfully slow compared to the latest webkit svn to me - especially when opening an uncached site for the first time.
Other than that and a few other quirks (hitting tab in the address bar doesn't default your caret to google, instead it will choose the first toolbar icon right of the address bar - you have to rearrange the toolbar to get safari's behavior) it's quite impressive. I love the tab-expose for example. - droversoul, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7At first I thought it said Shinra. Lousy Rufus...
- Quix, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Ah, thanks for pointing that out (and I'm not sure why someone dugg you down for that, maybe for the mis-threaded reply?). Now if they could just tie that feature to Command-L also....
- mightymouse, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4okay. been waiting for this for forever. but i uninstalled it right after i tried it for a few minutes.
this isn't read to be released to the public yet - it should be more like an "alpha" release. it's still extreme buggy.
and, the grammar in the browser and on the website is making me lose my conversational skills. - Dezik, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5anyone know how to make it stop taking my whole screen up every time I hit the zoom button (green button)?
- musicbear, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4@zongamin
No, it's not anywhere near ready. It crashed multiple times - within moments of each launch. It doesn't have even the most basic things like little pop ups to tell you what a button is when you hover over it.
Rating: Meh+ Let's see it again at version 3.0 - magicmarc, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7Great browser. Well done those guys, hope to see it go well.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Shame- I just tried it - half the options are unavailable, bookmarks vanished on restart and you can't use any ad blocking.
It will have nice features when its finished but its no where near ready. - shooby, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3They need someone who can completely understand English to do the english website.
Anyways, the beta was buggy as hell and I seriously thought the project was dead (no updates since December?!)
Downloading and I'm psyched to try it out. Time to get off Camino. - therearenorules, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I've been waiting all this time... to be disappointed. :(
- SteveMax, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3It's better than Firefox on Mac. Not as fast as the current Webkit builds, possibly faster than Safari.
- Gman1223, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I can see that.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Still has some Japanese text in it. It Crashes...over all I like Shiira but it still needs some work
- homeless123, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Looks great
- ggko, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2> Shiira has had it, ... for at least 6 months.
Much longer, I haven't used Shiira in well over a year and I recall the feature being in there. (v1.2.1 is on my HD, last opened 1/22/06) - CanuckMakem, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Like most browsers, I downloaded it, set it up, used it for an hour..... then went back to Camino.
- FantoMelt, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Still loads of bugs, they shouldn't have come out and said this was a final if they really wanted to start this project back up again. I'm excited to see what's down the road, but this is unfortunately half baked. Shiira project is somewhere to look for a better Safari in the future.
- bunkka, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2yea, very buggy still.
- DPimp1262, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3roosterjm2k2
Actually if safari is anything like firefox in the way it's google search works then it actually does make a profit every time someone searches for something using the built in search and then clicks on a google ad. - MadOtaku, on 10/12/2007, -3/+4Shiira has had it, in beta at least, for at least 6 months. Maybe even a year.
- HsoKinees, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2nice project name :S
- caliform, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Actually, 'Shisha', what you mean when properly set to English, means 'Water Pipe'. Not in the bong sense either.
- jazzyjayx, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3They really need to hire a native English speaker to go clean up their website. That site is full of Engrish!
"This one is absolutely new version."
"Since Shiira 2.0 has many new features, it was hard to prepare introduction page. We are now making them, but you do not need to wait them."
"We are working for them, and you can get fixed version via Appcasting technologies embed in Shiira 2.0." - yourfavweapn, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2crashed as soon as i opened it up for the first time. heh
- ilgaz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1It is open source effort as far as I can see from web page, you should report the issues to them.
More choice is always good btw. - taalatribe, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Hey, anyone know how to user agent spoof on shiira 2? On normal shiira it was pretty simple but can't find the setting on 2. Need it for my access my uni's course stuff (they only support ie and firefox but have been spoofing it with shiira 1 for about a year now with no probs).
- danielandrews, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Great ideas, but this in nowhere close to ready for prime time. A lot of the features are broken.
- caliform, on 10/12/2007, -4/+5Eh, sorry to break your bubble, but 'Webkit' is an open-source rendering engine. Safari and Shiira are both based on Webkit.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Tell me that (unlike Safari/Webkit) , it has support for [label for='otherFieldID' /]
- ilgaz, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2I hope you bothered to send crash report to developers or it will crash in version 2.1 , 2.2, 6.0, 99.445 too, as long as nobody sending bug/crash reports and posting comment to digg instead :)
- metaphysical, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@ ilgaz
I hear you.
Depending on my mood I'll cycle between Firefox, Camino and OmniWeb. Sometimes I'll even dabble in Opera. Typically I'll cycle through them going a few weeks at a time per browser. Again it's all dependent on how I feel about the current browser I'm using. Such is the beauty of Macs; I also can't imagine running 3+ browsers on my PC... that's just unheard of. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Opening all the ads in a new tab is caused by having it in 'Smart Browsing'. Possibly a bad attempt at blocking ads?
- aplardi, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1What about all the features we are so used to from the previous versions of Shiira though.
Examples
Awesome retractable sidebar.
Using Command and Shift buttons to control your actions opening in a new tab, in foreground or background. - virtualball, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2roosterjm2k2, I hate to break it to you, but you're all wrong. As said before, nobody is forcing you to use Safari, but for MS, IE will be necessary to run Windows. Also, if you knew anything about what you are saying, Safari runs on WebKit, the Cocoa framework for surfing the internet.
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