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- scoetrain, on 06/20/2008, -25/+88The inability to send/receive photos or sound through text messaging (MMS) frustrates the ***** out of me.
- ThinkBox, on 06/21/2008, -20/+74This list is nothing new,
What it needs:
Flash, Replaceable Battery, Cut-and-Paste, Video Recording, MMS
But they blow it, they are COMPLAINING about the $199 price point, WHAT A JOKE.
If this makes it to the front page, it will because people aren't reading it. This is the same old article that has been retold since the iPhone first launched.
Oh, and they quote Gizmodo... seriously.... - binford04, on 06/21/2008, -2/+33Sponsored by Verizon Wireless? Anyone else notice that?
- mikesown, on 06/21/2008, -8/+32The author misses a very important detail. All but two of the seven disappointing things -- cost and battery -- are software related. At any point in time, Apple could opt to add in cut and paste, or Flash support. By buying the phone now, you wouldn't be losing out on any features should Apple choose to add the features in the future(and does anyone think they won't?). These are not disappointments of the iPhone itself, but the iPhone 2.0 software!
- KSUdesigner, on 06/20/2008, -2/+25Not that kind of flash, nimrod. Reading comprehension is your friend.
- HappyScrappy, on 06/21/2008, -7/+29Know what happens you assume?
There are a lot of people who don't have email-enabled phones. - judicar, on 06/21/2008, -6/+21The thing about the iPhone is that every other phone maker is trying to take a cell phone and turn it into a computer, Apple went the other way and took a computer and turned it into a cell phone. Technology like MMS was developed to be the cell phone analog of email, sms the cell phone analog of irc/aim/etc, these sorts of technologies are about to go extinct. Eventually the cell phone as a discrete device will vanish and just be another feature on a computer, in ten years the cell phone will go the way of Pong machines and 1 ton computers.
- fyngyrz, on 06/21/2008, -8/+21Doesn't do anything. That's the 8th thing. Being locked to AT&T means that in areas like mine - Montana - it's a dead hunk of metal.
But hey. It wasn't meant for us anyway. Steve knows best. - crapmatic, on 06/21/2008, -1/+14What comes after that comma on the end? The suspense is killing me.
- ThinkBox, on 06/21/2008, -6/+17How did you survive 5 years ago.. much less 10... you really need more than 16 GB with you all the time? THis is a phone, not a computer replacement.
- chazuk, on 06/21/2008, -9/+203g video calls, MMS, Bluetooth file transfers, Video recording, expandable memory, user changable battery, A2DP Bluetooth stereo headphone support, FM Radio, 5MP Cam....
Yep the iPhone is leagues ahead of my (ageing) N95..... - vancanucksfan, on 06/21/2008, -6/+17people have to understand that the iphone is not the holy grail and it doesn't suit everyone. i have my reasons why i won't get the iphone and a blackberry or windows mobile phone is right for me and many others I'm sure. I'm currently using the htc s640 smartphone which is only released in canada at the moment. its the same form factor as a blackberry curve and looks similar. it runs windows mobile 6
http://www.journaldugeek.com/images/2007_11/htc_s6 ...
1.no physical keyboard - a must for me,i tried the touchscreen to type with one hand and it was impossible. two hands is decent,but still it doesn't feel very comfortable for me tapping glass. my use is mostly one handed.
2.no replaceable battery - i always swap batteries because a regular charge is not enough. i keep extra recharged batteries in very convenient places,like the car,home,office just in case i need to be in a conference call and my battery doesn't have enough juice to cut it. swap battery and boom,I'm in business.
3.no copy paste - this is pretty huge for me. i receive important numbers for work. i have to add them in an excel spreadsheet and mail the document to the higher ups. if i had to type them in manually id get my ass kicked.
4. no editing word/excel/pdf - i always receive documents that need error checking and to make sure everything is right. i can edit out mistakes and add important information then they go to email. the ability to read them is not enough.
5.no tethering - sometimes my internet connection disconnects when i'm doing something important work related. with my winmo phone,i can just tether it up and be up and running in no time.
6.no memory card support - ok,the internal storage is fine and dandy, but what if my phone stops working or wont power up anymore. i have to send it in for repairs and someone who i dont know may go through my personal pictures and documents. at least with a memory card,i can pop it out and be done with it. sure you can always backup your stuff often, but what if this happens when you forgot to do your backup?
7.software library - im sure the iphone will have great third party apps created for it using the SDK,but as it stands right now, windows mobile and blackberry have a massive library. apps take time to develop,and until that happens and apple builds a decent library,the other platforms have an advantage.
8.size - the iphone is too big for me. i need the slimmest and lightest phone that does everything i need.
9.a2dp - i love my motorola s9 wireless bluetooth headset. using a wired headset at the gym is really a drag since the wires are always flopping in the way,and the earbuds always fall out. i pair my headset with my phone, put the phone in my pocket and im good to go. one time i had some rap playing with many explicit words,and the headphones accidentally came out of the jack. that was a little embarrassing having everyone stop what they're doing and looking at you.
10. flashing LEDs - these are the best. without having to wake up your phone to see if you missed a call or message, the flashing LEDs let you know whats up. if my phone is sitting in the car and i missed a call because my music was too loud, when im at a red light all i have to do is just look at my phone instead of trying to wake it up, unlock it, and click on many things. same if its sitting on my desk but i forgot that my phone was in silent mode. saved my ass many times. - Realnemesis, on 06/21/2008, -15/+25Sadly even without all this the iPhone still ***** on every other phone on the market....
- macwac, on 06/21/2008, -1/+11To me there is only one hugely disappointing part to the iPhone, it being locked and having to activate it in store.
- sfacets, on 06/21/2008, -4/+14Oh yay. A list.
- piwy, on 06/21/2008, -0/+9I didn't bury you. But i've owned nokia phones since i could buy one, and i've never used a single one of these features pundits and myriad of diggers seem to think we all need. Never had multiple batteries with me. The one time my battery ***** i replaced it in the store where i bought the new battery. For all intents and purposes i could do that in an apple store.
Never used MMS (might be a cultural thing. MMS is rarely advertised here in the netherlands), cut and paste or voice dialing ( which i find only to be useful when driving, and even then i'd rather not call. Enough distraction on the roads already).
From your point, 3g phone calls are mostly a gimmick, i've never seen someone actually use it. Only thing i totally concur with everybody about it the crippled bluetooth stack. That's just ridiculous. And on the radio thing, most of us get ipods so we don't have to listen to radio.
But anyways, nobody is forcing anybody to get iPhone. If you're feeling the need to go on and on about how your phone is better than whatever other phone because it has way more features, please rest assured that you're as annoying as the iPhone fanboys. If you need all those fancy features, go get a nokia or a blackberry.
/rant - davidseigle, on 06/21/2008, -0/+9Tisk Tisk Tisk
How biased is our journalism now a days?
Thank you for pointing that out
Luckily I can say I am dropping Verizon and picking up a different service sometime around July 11th - HolyChimp, on 06/21/2008, -3/+12MMS never exploded in the same way that SMS did, simply because it was a bit *****. It cost more and it required people to have phones that supported MMS (and not many did when MMS was actually new). Seriously, MMS is basically just a fancy email that your provider charges you for...
- DailyWail, on 06/21/2008, -1/+10Remove Zune, stop smoking.
You have more than one pocket right? - swiftheart, on 06/21/2008, -2/+10I think you'll find it's much more likely for a person to have an unlimited text plan rather than an unlimited data plan. (I suspect that's the case for everybody, but particularly in the youthful circles I'm in...where no one has a blackberry.)
But even then, the reason why MMS is so popular is because the workflow is easy: take a pic, choose send as a text, select the number(s) in your address book to send it to, and then wait for the recepient's text in response.
The workflow for sending an email is not the same or as easy, particularly since I, like the vast majority people I know, don't keep email addresses stored on my phone. Sure, if I had a blackberry I would, but I don't. Even then, if I did have an iPhone, I'd prefer to MMS pix and videos because of the workflow and how quickly they are received by the receipient.(Most phones default to being very good at taking calls and text, not so much emails. where the workflow is odder.) - HappyScrappy, on 06/21/2008, -4/+12These are legitimate beefs. But the original iPhone sold well despite shortcomings like this and more (uselessly quiet speakerphone and nearly so with the ringer).
It isn't clear to me that people are buying these based upon features or functionality. - stretch611, on 06/21/2008, -2/+10I'm tired of you whiners... Just leave already.
If you do not want to hear about the iPhone, why don't you just turn off the apple section of your customizable front page? or do you not know how to effectively use a computer?
You certainly care enough to read through the comments section of iPhone articles... I guess you are just trolling for attention. - SeaICIubber, on 06/21/2008, -2/+10I'm in the UK which has a fairly advanced/matured mobile phone culture and in my personal opinion I'd say that MMS is nowhere near as popular as basic sms. I've sent just one in my entire life and never received one (yes I do have friends and receive quite a few sms)
As HolyChimp mentioned MMS never took off here as it tends to be expensive, not included in text bundles (they count it as data) and there's still quite a few modern phones that don't support it natively and send you a web link to view the photo which is self-defeating.
They've unlocked MMS finally but it hasn't exploded. - Barackalypse, on 06/21/2008, -3/+11I would love for more and more platforms NOT to have Flash, then maybe websites will stop using the crappy bloatware to waste my time and bandwidth with gimmicky intros and other distractions from the information I actually want.
- chazuk, on 06/21/2008, -6/+14So every other manufacturer of phones should bow down to Apple for their lack of MMS support? (which was a standard BEFORE the ***** thing came along)
I liked sending MMS photos to all that I know when my daughter was born. I doubt that my mother in law has a need for email on her phone, let alone wants it. - HolyChimp, on 06/21/2008, -0/+8If you were actually considering buying this phone you would have done enough research to already know some of the most common gripes with the iPhone....
- Lancelot9201, on 06/21/2008, -3/+11Did anyone remember the ***** camera - I cannot believe they didn't upgrade this feature.!!!
Anyone who's used their 1st. generation iphone camera knows what I mean.!!! - HA5TY, on 06/21/2008, -4/+11you don't need to warn us if ur leaving.
- CyberKiL, on 06/21/2008, -5/+12Although the keynote was a little disappointing regarding the lack of additional features, I still wouldn't completely count the 3G iPhone out of these missing things. It still hasn't been released yet, and these features could always be added later via firmware updates.
- Taiyoryu, on 06/21/2008, -2/+9No Flash support means no Flash ads. That's a perk not a con.
- notoneofus, on 06/21/2008, -15/+21Assuming you're sending to other users who have email-enabled phones, why not just send an email? If you have an unlimited data plan, you won't even pay the nominal fee for a text.
- BuhSnarf, on 06/21/2008, -5/+12The Cost:
Hang on, other phones use 3G without the extra cost. I'm not sure about the US but here in the UK 3G is pretty much standard and one of the reasons that you very rarely see an iPhone on the streets here, that plus we definately aren't used to paying a subscription AND a cost for the phone. It would be interesting to see how well the iPhone did on a country by country basis as I've a feeling that it did well in the US but floundered in other countries because they didn't understand the local market.
No Flash
Of course it could run the majority of flash applications. To be honest the only flash application people actually want is YouTube (sad, but true) and the n95 can run YouTube full screen with Flash Lite smooth and fine so I'm sure the iPhone can. Now, whether Flash Lite has been ported to the iPhone OSX yet, no idea. But could be fixed easily.
Replaceable Batteries
I have two batteries. The reason? I spend quite a lot of time away from a wall socket so it's handy to have that back up if the first one fails and these days batteries are so slim that it just fits in my notebook bag without even noticing. Maybe it's not the corner of the market that the iPhone is aimed at (outdoors) but it *is* a useful function to have.
Video Recording:
Depending upon the quality, it's useful. True, on old phones it was a waste of time. But on the latest crop of smartphones you're getting 640x480 @ 30fps and it's actually a decent quality and very useful for when you have kids and parents that live far enough away to not see them. I'm sure there's other applications too ;)
MMS:
I agree, email ftw. But I still have a lot of friends who don't check their email that often and also don't have email on their handset. Some of these guys have got 5-10 year old phones that just support SMS and MMS.
So, there are reasons for people griping. - MacParrot, on 06/21/2008, -0/+7Also, any chance you could just voice your opinion and NOT worry and whine about being buried? It happens for all kinds of reasons and appealing to the Digg Gods doesn't always work.
Have an opinion...voice it...don't worry if someone or some group of people don't agree=much less stressful life...ahhhhh - emanaydin, on 06/21/2008, -2/+9i agree with ThinkBox.. this device is still just a phone with some powerful features, its not a computer replacement. People are complaining about flash support? what other phone out there has flash support? expandable memory for even more GB's on a phone? What other cell phone has more than 4gb's? I think we're pushin it..get yourself an ipod classic with 80gb of storage, thats more than enough for anybody i'm sure.
- virtualball, on 06/21/2008, -3/+10Sure, the cost is "more in the long run" but would you rather pay 599 or 199 and 24 easy payments of $10? (The $10 is the difference from the now 20 and the soon-to-be 30)
- cthellis, on 06/21/2008, -1/+7...developers?
- theuncommonman, on 06/21/2008, -0/+6Yes and articles like this help us to discover which phones HAVE the features we want.
- rhkenji, on 06/21/2008, -5/+118. Fanboys?
- Jareth86, on 06/21/2008, -1/+7Really? My biggest disappointment is that you must sign up with AT&T to use it. If it wasn't for that, the iPhone would be well on its way to replacing the blackberry.
- uglymike, on 06/21/2008, -5/+11No video calls, no MMS, no thanks.
Put these basic features in to the phone and I'll be on it like stink on a monkey.
Until then, my cash stays firmly in my wallet. - notoneofus, on 06/21/2008, -3/+9Well, I have a skewed point of view since I moved to Japan, where emails are basically free (and everyone has email on their phones), and texts cost money and don't work across different service providers. Not exactly the same other places.
I don't feel everyone will bow to Apple. But I do think the Japanese system is a precursor for much of the rest of the world. - dragon76, on 06/21/2008, -1/+7How many people who do not have email-enabled phones actually know how to compose and use MMS? I'd like to see the data on that. A lot of simple, dumb phones have email function, it's not like the only people you can email with the iPhone are other iPhone users.
It's also not like MMS is even a standard feature on dumb phones. - patbon, on 06/21/2008, -6/+12I absolutely agree. Sure, email is a fine alternative, but jesus christ why is MMS not just included.
How am I supposed to send nudy pics of myself to all my contacts : ( - stockjones, on 06/21/2008, -7/+13MMS should be included thats just ridiculous for such a multimedia capable phone.
- MacParrot, on 06/21/2008, -1/+6By repeating this line (which is pretty much said in EVERY Apple post) you have proven yourself to be the very sheep you supposedly rail against.
Good day to you sir...I SAID good day - MacParrot, on 06/21/2008, -0/+5This also just in...you don't actually HAVE to read stories about stuff you don't care about OR make multiple comments!
Yeah! Crazy, I know!
I don't have an iPhone and frankly the amount of front page stories about (mostly just regurgitating the same crap) is annoying. Just block the topic or ignore them OR as you said, just leave Digg. Everything goes in cycles. Eventually some new toy will push it off the pages. In the meantime, just suck it up or leave. - 35263526, on 06/21/2008, -3/+8If they were going to add those features, they would have by now, but even if they are at some point in the future going to beat the seemingly insurmountable hurdle of copy-and-past functionality, this is Apple we're dealing with; there's a very high chance they'd only include that functionality in the next hardware revision even if the old one is more than capable.
- phatvolvo, on 06/21/2008, -9/+14I'm sick of people bitching about it not having MMS. MMS is rubbish! Email is far better and should definitely replace MMS. I don't miss grainy, expensive, low-resolution photos in the slightest... Please start keeping up with the times.
- MacParrot, on 06/21/2008, -1/+6@DailyWall
Ok I can see removing the Zune as the Touch would be a replacement for it (who needs more than one content player at all times?), but giving up cigarettes? That's just crazy talk! - santaliqueur, on 06/21/2008, -0/+5No it doesn't.
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