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Safari Slowdowns had Already been Fixed in Nightlies

webkit.org — Safari and Webkit Architect David Hyatt responds to macenstein's revelation of Safari speed problems. Without knowing the specific pages used, Hyatt explained what types of things browsers need to do in the background. The most likely suspect? Safari 2 handled JavaScript timeouts precisely; Firefox and Safari 3 don't allow timeouts under 10ms.

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corsairstw, on 10/12/2007, -37/+3Dupe from awhile back. This news was on the front page.
- gregfadein, on 10/12/2007, -3/+23That's funny, since it was just posted this evening.
- wiihuck, on 10/12/2007, -30/+2it is a semi-dupe. when the article was posted about how to make safari faster or whatever, the guy who had already fixed the problems in safari posted in the comments. point is, we know. safari is lame anyway.
- schoate09, on 10/12/2007, -18/+2Whoppie, now if they'd just make it compatible with more sites besides www.apple.com/startpage...
serpicolugnut, on 10/12/2007, -0/+22Do people on Digg read the actual stories before they post to Digg? Dave Hyatt doesn't say that the problem has been fixed in the nightlies already, he says that the test that was done doesn't give enough specifics to replicate, and asks for some more concrete information. He then states that depending upon the cause, the fix **might** already be fixed in the nightly builds of Safari 3.

Come on people, read before you post.
- supermanKD, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9Maybe Digg should add a Douche button for people that abuse Digg rather than contribute. If a user gets do many Douches than they get kicked out. I know we can just Digg them down but not everyone gets Dugg down for being a Douche.
AceTracer, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Did you read the article? He said to post more specific bug reports and they would look into it, or it might already have been fixed. Might.
DonCarcharo, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3On my Intel iMac 20" Safari spikes in resource usage quite frequently, it just did it a few minutes ago actually. This leaves my iMac unresponsive for a few moments at a time and is very annoying. On top of this are the memory issues. Things start out innocently enough at 300mb of RAM (800mb virtual) but if I leave Safari on long enough or open enough windows, suddenly I'm it's eating up over 600mb of RAM (1GB+ virtual).

Now I'm unable to tell if the RAM is just wired or if it's active but my guess is that it's actually in use. That's a lot of resources for a web browser.
- greenldr, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I really don't know what people are talking about when they talk about Safari being a memory hog, I can leave Safari open for days and it still only shows ~250mb of memory usage (~700mb virtual) in activity monitor. I've never had a problem, and I would know because I use MenuMeters to monitor my CPU and memory usage.
- kuwan, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2@greenldr
  
  I've had Safari balloon up to using 1.3 GB of RAM (> 2 GB virtual) which I've posted about before (view my profile if you're interested). Earlier today I was over 700 MB until I accidentally pressed cmd-Q and quit. There's definitely a memory problem somewhere. Too many people have posted similar experiences for there not to be. I'd like to see this issue addressed more than anything else in future versions.
  
  PS I'm already up to 290 MB in just about 1 hour of use.
malavalla, on 10/12/2007, -5/+1***** happens
valkraider, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I use Camino 1.1b for my web use (nice browser!) but WebKit is used in other places, and I am wondering if it affects them too. I suppose that it would but I have not seen anything definitive.

Camino 1.1b:
http://beta.caminobrowser.org/
lazzris, on 10/12/2007, -6/+1had to replace my logic board on my ibook because of safari. safari running at 148 degrees fire fox runs at 120 degrees
- Maverick18x, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5...because 'degrees' is a unit of measurement for web browser performance...
vondur, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3I've noticed that flash player seems to suck ass on the Mac, and use the CPU like crazy.
- JackAxe, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4I've notice that most people that complain about Flash's performance on a Mac are either still using a G4, or visiting sites that do things like run countless and unesscary loops, do to poor development. These sites also bog down PCs.
  
  Also, earlier versions of FireFox on the Mac, literally brought all Flash content to a complete crawl and used an excessive amout of CPU to achieve mediocre performance.
  
  I've been developing with Flash since 99. I have both Macs and PCs in my office. Flash on a Mac runs great, given the developer knows what they're doing.
- MajikalMan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Actually, I have to side with vondur. If I try running any Flash document in the standalone player on my MBPro, the fans start revving up immediately. I'm not sure what it is but I think the whole Flash framework hasn't been optimized on the Mac platform.
- nandabanaotakun, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1You probably have the PowerPC Standalone Flash Player. Adobe doesn't make it easy to find the newest version on their site, but it's in UB.
bobfoster, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2This clearly goes in the "Believe it when I see it" department. None of the items discussed in this link explain why every single web page on every site draaaaags itself open in Safari, while Firefox pages open as fast as they do in Windows. My wife uses her Mac almost entirely for web browsing. We'll switch back when we prove "the nightlies" actually fixed our problem.
ilgaz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Sad thing is, those nightlies will appear on 10.5 aka Leopard which is a $140 Operating System.
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