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- themastersb, on 10/12/2007, -12/+54I heard that it's best to stay on the good side of the US or they'll give you democracy.
- Misaiato, on 10/12/2007, -13/+47I hope the poor guy doesn't get fired. God forbid we lose a widget programmer.
- Cwo655321, on 10/12/2007, -19/+37i told you all apple was communist
- johnpaul191, on 10/12/2007, -0/+15maybe somebody was watching 24 when they typed that in.
- jaromir68, on 10/12/2007, -4/+19Another interesting result is provided when you do the same with the word "president".
- Y0tsuya, on 10/12/2007, -14/+27Dictionary/thesaurus is no place for political speech. A reprimand is in order, but probably not something to lose one's job over. Those that insist on going that route, remember that 2 can play that game. The end result will not be pretty. Reference material should maintain their neutrality.
- digitalme, on 10/12/2007, -0/+13@msprout
FYI, it's the New Oxford American Dictionary, not the OED. - edanite, on 10/12/2007, -0/+13Both the widget and the app share the same dictionary and thesaurus. They're located in /Library/Dictionaries. The .dict files are packages that contain several files. One of them, dict_body, contains all of the stuff used by the dictionary.
- Electric_Sheep, on 10/12/2007, -5/+17For those that doesn't have a mac, if you type PRESIDENT into the OS X thesaurus:
The terrorists assassinated the president. HEAD OF STATE. chief executive, premier, prime minister. - 13B1303, on 10/12/2007, -4/+15@msprout
Did you RTFA? Oxford said they had no such phrase in their thesaurus or dictionary. - rekenner, on 10/12/2007, -3/+13@catmistake
This is true. However, democracy in the true sense of the word, doesn't really exist in government anymore.
Especially not in ours.
And the Founding Fathers *wanted* it that way. - Raian, on 10/12/2007, -3/+12The word democracy is a very sentimental, over-used word. It seems the only qualifying factors for a modern democracy is a general election, with elected positions open to the general public. Modern democracies retain a couple elements from ancient ones-- but if you get really technical are not really democracies at all.
Look at China-- it is considered a democracy, but I'm sure you'd be hard pressed to find many westerners who see it that way.
Democracy is rule by the poor-- which doesn't work very well, nor does it truly exist-- just makes people feel good to hear it. - thinkdifferent, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9@scotty
You're correct for dictionary definitions. But, this came from the thesaurus. Both are in there exactly as described in the article. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -5/+13FYI it seems to work on the widget when you select "Thesaurus" not "Dictionary". Interesting find!
- bootle, on 10/12/2007, -5/+13This is in the full dictionary.app, not just the widget! At least it is on my system
- Electric_Sheep, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8@neokyle
Apple have not updated this. You're looking at the dictionary. Switch it to the thesaurus to see it. - floam, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8Why is everyone freaking out over the widget? This has nothing to do with the widget -- this is in the system-wide dictionary.
- msprout, on 10/12/2007, -17/+23Well, I trust the Oxford English Dictionary for everything else. Why should I stop now?
- bobartig, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Vote: A rigged vote
President: terrorists asassinated the president
Democracy: a democracy in Iraq is quite unlikely for now or any time soon
Destruction: the destruction by allied bombers
Government: the govenrment announced further cuts
Rig: they rigged the election
Conspiracy: a conspiracy to manipulate the results
Coincidence? Secret agenda? I dunno, but its lots of fun! - laserblazer, on 10/12/2007, -9/+13Activist programmers legislating from the computer chair. I bet he comments his code liberally. A real example of compile and run policy from the left-justified script.
- slipgrid, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5Article says, "technically there IS a democracy in Iraq," which is BS. The US is not a democracy; Iraq is not a democracy.
- FatHed, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6There is no Iraq. By that I mean that sure there’s a puppet government in Iraq, but it doesn’t control the country, so it’s not in charge. Our military does not control the country either, so we aren’t in charge.
A country with no one, or agency in charge isn’t really a country. - Swift2, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Oh, come on. You guys are complete Stalinists. All those add-on sentences were meant to do was illustrate contemporary usage. Would you have preferred, "the president gave another ***** speech today?" That would be commentary. The associations are all yours. Aren't the detainees "suspected terorists"? You mean, they're not? Well then, release them. (Although, I think a lot of them are still there because releasing them would show that they've been falsely imprisoned by incompetent authoritarians, and that there was no evidence against them, even after torture, but maybe that's just me.)
All of the indicated sentences are, I get, right out of the news when this was being compiled. (Not the OED, but Oxford American, so the response was irrelevant.) Do a Nexis search, any of you who have access to that excellent service, as would anybody searching for contemporary usage of these terms, and there it is. The associations are your problem.
Modern-day conservatives love to bring up Winston Churchill, and he certainly did well in WW II. But after Britain carved three territories from the Ottoman Empire and stuck them together and called them Iraq, an insurgency started up about a year later. Lord Churchill solved it by using poison gas on the villagers, and then marching troops into villages and shooting every tenth man, things like that. So the Brits set up a phony monarchy backed with their army. They gave the project up in the '30s, because it was a money-loser, and they never did really suppress the insurrection. That took, eventually, Saddam Hussein, who was helped to power by-- oh, just google "CIA" and "Iraq, 1968." - trainer, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2are you people retarded? been on here 11ty billion times already
- arnaudh, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2That's not legislation. That is, at best, propaganda.
- idonthack, on 10/12/2007, -4/+6@postaldave
Liberals, by definition, support liberal democracy. - diggn_it, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Man, that was a great idea by that programmer, I used to love bush and the war, but now I HATE them!
- neokyle, on 10/12/2007, -3/+4Whoops-- sorry. Never mind. I checked the dictionary by mistake. Yep, still there in the thesaurus. (Tried to edit or delete my orginal post. Didn't work out so well.)
- Y0tsuya, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Diggity, diggity, diggity, alright!
- bliz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1now that's democracy. ''-_-
- mattc908, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2That programmer is one BA
- opticsnake, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3Best easter egg ever!
- razorpit, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Apparently you don't understand satire. There is also a clip of Ronnie Reagan saying "I've just signed legislation that outlaws Russia forever. We begin bombing in five minutes."
Nothing wrong with having a little fun with the media. Now if Clinton would have said those thing I would have to worry. ;-) - ascolti, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1That's awesome. I wonder if there are more such entries.
- idkfa, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2I agree about having a mess in Iraq, but a thesaurus is supposed to be bland.
e.g. http://thesaurus.reference.com/browse/democracy - Hackzaur, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Thats great.
Can't wait till someone finds A GTA hot coffee mod like thing in a dell or something. It'll be hilarious!!! :p - brightonbeach, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3Actually it is not biased, because the example sentence "a democracy in Iraq is quite unlikely for now or any time soon" only appears in the Thesaurus. If you look up "democracy" in the Dictionary the example sentence given is "capitalism and democracy are ascendant in the third world", so taken together there is balance.
- arnaudh, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1You're completely missing the point here. First of all, what do liberals have to do with this whole issue? Then you obviously have no idea what either democracy or liberalism is about if you think that "liberals hate the idea of democracy." Go back to school, please.
- catmistake, on 10/12/2007, -7/+6hmm... feints within feints... of course, we promote 'democracy,' its really maketing, but here in the US, its a *representational* democracy... and not a democracy (ALL the people don't govern, only a handful do). The United States is a republic, and capitalist, but technically, not a democracy in the truest sense of the term. I'm not exactly sure of the new government in Iraq, but its likely its not a true democracy (do any exist?), nor will it be anytime soon. And don't start with the "you know what I mean," or "its common to define a representational democracy as a real democracy." I'm so sick and tired of the English language being watered down with each year, generation, so every word is understood to mean pretty much the same thing as every other word.
- laserblazer, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0Speaking in the ironic/sarcastic/sardonic pun-ladened voice is just too busy. My bad.
- duey, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1dupe, buried
- Gundampilotspaz, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1I have the widget but I don't see these phrases.
- northernmunky, on 10/12/2007, -9/+8Dont digg that one down, I have a clip here of Bush saying "my job would be a whole lot easier if this were a dictatorship.. as long as I'm the dictator!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNo0_klKzis - msprout, on 10/12/2007, -4/+2@13B1303
One day, I'll discover a way to convey irony through the Internet. Perhaps, a blink tag would suffice? - hagbard72, on 10/12/2007, -7/+5Despite what the Blogger says, Iran does NOT have democracy. But then, never does the USofA.
- catmistake, on 10/12/2007, -3/+0@ rekenner
right... so you see, the government lies to us, and we lie to ourselves. I'm not sure what upsets me more, the depravity of watering down meaning in language, or using this process as a way to deceive entire populations. - mrmdc, on 10/12/2007, -11/+8yeaaaah, this was frontpaged 16 days ago.
http://digg.com/apple/OSX_Thesaurus_Widget_Democracy_a_democracy_in_Iraq_is_quite_unlikely - Masterbaiter, on 10/12/2007, -5/+2I wonder why edanite was getting dugg down... hm.. He is typing the truth.
- Raian, on 10/12/2007, -17/+12It happens to be a factual statement, and a very contemporary example of the use of the word.
- Cwo655321, on 10/12/2007, -7/+2the world would be a lot better place without widget programmers
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