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- corsairstw, on 10/10/2007, -33/+75Is it just me or is the "outer-space" theme a little cheesy?
- gmprunner, on 10/10/2007, -7/+36I think it's pretty cool, but to each his own.
- meamog, on 10/10/2007, -5/+33Ugh. For the millionth time, Macs have shipped with two button mice for years. Third-party two button mice have worked ever since I can remember. And you're a freaking idiot.
I'd have loved to say this was "for the last time" but apparently people like you never learn. Ugh. - JrGhoull, on 10/10/2007, -10/+37they cant do this! damn...just as microsoft was catching up with its own cheap immitation of OSX!
- noblepenguin, on 10/10/2007, -1/+28Yeah, it works. WTF is your point?
- SiRwhilms, on 10/10/2007, -3/+27"Every time I watch the Time Machine video now on Apple's Leopard pages, my mind drifts to one of my most wonderful childhood experiences, as a six year old Star Wars nut."
This guy needs to locate Earth and return here immediately. No pun intended. You're talking about a GUI, not LSD. If a user interface is making you nostalgic and imaginative, you're letting it get to you. - noblepenguin, on 10/10/2007, -1/+20Funny, I could have sworn you _were_ being an ass.
- noblepenguin, on 10/10/2007, -2/+17Stop spreading misinformation. You can do a 2 finger click to right click and a 2 finger drag to scroll.
The menu thing is subjective so unless you give a reason for disliking them you're just being a troll. - otatop, on 10/10/2007, -3/+18You can both scroll and right click with the track pad. You just have to not be a *****.
- TWiThead, on 10/10/2007, -1/+16I don't particularly care about the aesthetic differences, but that new "Time Machine" feature seems pretty darn nifty.
- meatmcguffin, on 10/10/2007, -4/+17If your trying to say "Vista" then you shouldn't. If you had done some research instead of being a fanboy, you would have found that OS X from 5 years ago had transparency everywhere but Apple found that it was terrible from an interface standpoint and they phased it out. Microsoft decided, at the same time, to phase transparency in. Also, the desktop is now a space themed picture, not zoomed in grass.
http://www.guidebookgallery.org/pics/gui/desktop/full/macosxdp3.png - seNoj1, on 10/10/2007, -2/+13The "Time Machine" logo should really be a DeLorean
- GeoffANDtonic, on 10/10/2007, -3/+14Read the blog, and hate the story. Outer Space Mac, eh? I don't think this makes any sense at all. I'm sorry, but this seems to be a very, very, silly article and not an insight into Apple's direction. But then again, this is my viewpoint, so take it at what is is worth.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -5/+15When Microsoft does it, it's a gimmick. When Apple does it, it's innovation.
- Stirk, on 10/10/2007, -1/+10On March 24, 2001, Apple released Mac OS X v10.0 (internally codenamed Cheetah).
Vista wasn't even a dream yet, how could it have been shown publicly?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mac_OS_X#Mac_OS_X_10.0_.28Cheetah.29 - newbill123, on 10/10/2007, -1/+10Aqua is a set of design standards. "Draw your toolbar icon in a perspective as if sitting on a shelf at eye level." and "Interface objects should be placed no closer than 10 points to a window edge."
There has been talk that these guidelines have not evolved at the same speed of the "Delicious" style of GUI designs. (Delicious refers to Wil Shipley's Delicious Monster company and apps like Delicious Library). Are these new designs "wrecking" the Aqua standards? They certainly don't comply with them, but is this a good or bad thing. Since these interfaces typically win design awards and are pleasant to use, is Apple going to make changes to the Aqua guidelines for all developers?
Just because the default desktop picture changes to an aurora and the intro movie changes to highlight "time machine" & "spaces" instead of "spotlight", it doesn't mean that Apple has finally made any move on the really tough questions about the Aqua design guidelines. - kris33, on 10/10/2007, -2/+10You can both right click and scroll on Apple laptops. It is actually easier to do than on PC laptops since you don't have to use buttons or certain areas for it. You can do it anywhere on the trackpad (which is larger than most other trackpads).
- HillerMylife, on 07/24/2008, -5/+13Phill Ryu thinks he's a lot more important than he really is.
- devindotcom, on 10/10/2007, -6/+14CHRIST, could that guy be any more sycophantic? I can't stand writing like that... where _every single feature_ is rejoiced as the second coming. Every tiny modification is viewed as a paragraph-worthy reinvention, and large changes like Time Machine are treated as if they are something everyone in the world truly needs and wants. I personally will be skipping this minor update to OSX.
- doubleoh7, on 10/10/2007, -2/+9Dugg for title.
- Xfer00, on 10/10/2007, -4/+10Did, perhaps, Cosmic F create the Outer Space style to go along with the Moonwalk, the Robot, and Zero G?
Just wait until they unveil the septuple-head-spin.
/futurama - DaffyDuck, on 10/10/2007, -1/+7No, I think it's a gimmick too and I'm an Apple fanboy.
- pyro116, on 10/10/2007, -3/+8As the guy in question, in my defense, sounds like you:
a) haven't seen Time Machine in action, and
b) never went on Star Tours as a kid. Pity. - Nuak, on 10/10/2007, -5/+10I'm a Mac user. I'm a big BTTF fan. But I'm not digging it because the article is the result of unconditional and irrational fanboyism. Some points:
- Microsoft have had a restore option since Windows Millennium and Time Machine is the same with a nifty interface. Revolutionary?
- The leopard intro is JUST AN INTRO.
- The leopard background is distracting.
- The 3D dock is cool and funny, but distracting.
- Coverflow in finder: cool, funny, but useless.
- Spaces? We have had that in Linux desktops for years.
- Movement bars in leopard windows... ooh Aqua is still there.
Leopard is going to rock, but is by no way revolutionary. It's just another OS. - DaffyDuck, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5I'm sorry that this: http://www.pbase.com/eclecticphoto/image/84528071.jpg
Is so confusing for you. Tapping the trackpad with two fingers is so much more difficult than hitting a button with one. - inactive, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5@wageslaven
Ok, ok. Windows Vista Ultimate is more expensive than OS X 10.5 Ultimate. Point taken. - stockjones, on 10/10/2007, -1/+6You have to admit the way the app works exceeds the similiar feature in windows. Apple is really making serious improvements on UI. Im not talking the eye candy, but simply how the user interacts with the GUI. MS is falling behind in this area.
- pyro116, on 10/10/2007, -4/+9The truth: No I don't. I just care enough about what I think enough to blog about it, rather than trolling Digg comments.
Then again, they say any publicity is good publicity. Dugg your comment up for self promotion. :P - vapblack, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5Dugg for amazingness!!!
- pyro116, on 10/10/2007, -1/+6it should be noted that Delicious Library 2 won the Apple Design Award for best Mac OS X Leopard application (prerelease category) earlier this summer. Apple seems to like where that's going. They certainly liked DL's designer. (Mike Matas now works at Apple.)
- Quix, on 10/10/2007, -5/+10I find the new sci-fi theme not only cheesy, but Microsoft-level cheesy. Not good.
I couldn't believe it when I first saw the Time Machine interface. Looks like something straight out of Redmond.
You're better than this, Apple.
Though it must be recognized that Apple is being forced in new directions (good or bad) now that Microsoft is shamelessly copying all their visual elements (aqua glass buttons, the glassy abstract desktop screens...). - zeejay, on 10/10/2007, -3/+7Typically because Apple does it first.
- alexforcefive, on 10/10/2007, -2/+6It's a ***** back-up application! Every OS since the beginning of time has had one
- DaffyDuck, on 10/10/2007, -1/+5"You mean multi touch, which Microsoft is already showing off on laptop LCDs?" ----- Do you have any links to some info about said notebooks?
- sudowrestler, on 10/10/2007, -1/+5Windows fans- I'm not sure there are many actual fans, users is a better term- are much more apt to troll stories relating to Apple or Mac than Mac users are to troll Windows stories. And there's a lot more anger among the Windows people. Mac users are viewed as smug since most of the aggravation Windows users experience simply doesn't exist for them. And they commit the social blunder of expressing happiness with their platform, which you don't see a lot of with Windows. Another thing is that, simply due to the ubiquity of Windows, practically every Mac user has some experience with the platform, and in the case of switchers, among others, often greater experience than the usual Windows troll most likely has. On the other hand, these trolls almost always lack significant Mac experience, at least any that's discernible, hence their frequent resort to playground name-calling.
- rabbro, on 10/10/2007, -2/+6"Steve clicked on a little icon in the dock, and the screen fell away to reveal one of Leopard's most guarded and revolutionary features: that all of our Macs, come October"
Except it was Scott Forstall that revealed Time Machine, not Steve Jobs - edebolt, on 10/10/2007, -1/+5just give us Leopard already
- mrBitch, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4don't be too harsh with wageslaven - he only talks about what other people tell him - he doesn't actually go and find out simple facts that are available to him from a simple google search like "mac osx release date".
- theMurdocVolta, on 10/10/2007, -3/+7You can right click, any USB mouse or "mighty mouse" will do the trick.
- Quix, on 10/10/2007, -3/+7"Really guys, to do something new they need a new interface between the user and the computer." - neiltc13
Ah, you mean like the fantastic touch-controlled interface on the iPhone? You know, the device you've been griping about since it was announced?
Troll different, neil, troll different. - CrankyMcGuy, on 10/10/2007, -1/+5"The general idea seems to be based" on backup programs in general - something Steve alludes to in his speech (see article) since he recognizes that the majority of users don't use them. The point of Time Machine isn't that nobody's ever invented backup programs before. The point is that nobody's ever built an intuitive backup system into an OS that Grandma AND her more tech savvy grandkids could use. Besides, citing Shadow Copy as evidence that Apple ripped off MS is like citing the Yugo as evidence that the Dodge Prowler is no big deal. Apple innovates from time to time, but it is mostly known for it's style and implementation of technology. Time Machine fits right into that groove.
- PixelVision, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3The title doesn't have to match up with your thoughts. That's not how it works.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -4/+7I just got this ( I M A DEV) and what struck me most was the purple all over the place; very cool and reminds me of SGI - another UNIX (albeit childhood) favorite!
- CrankyMcGuy, on 10/10/2007, -2/+5OMG there is something wrong with Windows users.
There. Now the universe has balance again. - genericwhiteguy, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3I think the windows fan-boy reaction is a result of the prevelant mac fan-boy reaction to say that anything white or rectangular is a copy of the ipod. Any user interface that mimics real-world shinyness, shadows or transparency must be a copy of OSX. Design styles evolve over time and Apple does not operate in a vacuum. Apple is influenced by trends as much as it influences design trends.
I understand it is human nature to want to feel like they belong to a special group and that their team / city / country / device / OS is better than their neighbor's, but sometimes the brand loyalty gets a little out of control. Just judge a design on its merits, not its influences. - r3zonance, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4No every OS hasn't, and those that do, don't have one that present the changes at application level or in such an easy to understand and visual way as Time Machine.
Oh, and Shadow Copy is nothing like Time Machine. - yabos, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3They deserved it. Their use of Core Animation was great. The app looked amazing on the HD projectors at the awards show.
- yosempai, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Or the trackpad on the notebooks. It works better than any pc trackpad i've ever used. Two finger tap? Ingenious!
- wageslaven, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Are we arguing about the default desktop styles? We all know that the way the menu *looks* (colors, transparancy, shape, scale, etc etc etc etc) is totally configurable right?
Who the *f* cares. I pick OSs based on ability to run hardware, price and software availability. The color of the the goddamn menu doesnt mean shiat. - titlesaysitall, on 10/10/2007, -2/+4Does the interface have a vagina? If so I am upgrading to Leopard ASAP.
/Kidding, I like the Blog post. -
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