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Road to Mac OS X Leopard: Safari 3.0
appleinsider.com — Apple has made significant changes to Safari in Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard, introducing integration with Dashboard, smart drag and drop of tabbed windows, full text searching of your web history, and more. Here's a look at the birth and maturity of the online web browser, as well as a look at what's new in Safari 3.0.
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- anaksemuabangsa, on 10/24/2007, -4/+42really enjoy this road to leopard series.
- Ireland, on 10/20/2007, -0/+4"are we there yet, are we there yet, are we there yet, are we there yet, are we there yet..."
- LeeSoong, on 10/20/2007, -0/+1Will Safari 3.0 finally detect 'Non-responding Scripts' The way Firefox has for a long time ?
Or is it back to the 5 minute beach ball of death ?
- LeeSoong, on 10/20/2007, -0/+1Will Safari 3.0 finally detect 'Non-responding Scripts' The way Firefox has for a long time ?
- Ireland, on 10/20/2007, -0/+4"are we there yet, are we there yet, are we there yet, are we there yet, are we there yet..."
- macpro2006, on 10/20/2007, -3/+13apple insider does a really good job. Almost every story that they have gets on Digg and hits the homepage
- newbill123, on 10/20/2007, -2/+17Unlike some of the other articles, this one had very little about the actual changes for Safari 3.0 in Leopard. I like the series AppleInsider does, but this was much more focused on the history of hypertext browsing than the 3.0 webkit browser and what features it gains on 10.6.
- davidrossiii, on 10/19/2007, -2/+3Well, if you think about it, Safari in Leopard isn't bringing a lot of changes. Here are basically all of them:
1) Draggable tabs
2) Web Inspector
3) a few other very small features
Plus, Safari breaks the InputManagers :'(
Get Camino!
http://www.caminobrowser.org/- Vician, on 10/19/2007, -0/+2Until Camino gets the font rendering that's in Gecko 1.9 and actually supports normal form widgets as WebKit now does, I'll pass... Although, at least it does offer a single window mode. Which is STILL the one damn thing Safari needs badly.
- astrosmash, on 10/19/2007, -0/+1Safari doesn't break InputManagers. I'm using PithHelmet with Safari 3 + Nightly-build WebKit as I type.
- Vician, on 10/19/2007, -0/+1I think he means in Leopard, where Input Managers aren't supposed to work as they do now. Safari 3 and Tiger certainly still run them, but it's an OS issue not a browser one.
- astrosmash, on 10/19/2007, -0/+1InputManagers can be enabled in Leopard, but are disabled by default.
- Vician, on 10/19/2007, -0/+1I think he means in Leopard, where Input Managers aren't supposed to work as they do now. Safari 3 and Tiger certainly still run them, but it's an OS issue not a browser one.
- M4cb0y, on 10/19/2007, -0/+1What does Camino have that Safari doesn't?
- omnivector, on 10/19/2007, -0/+1What?? How about 2 years of engine improvements, and performance optimizations, and new engine features like proper full editing support now?
- Ireland, on 10/19/2007, -0/+410.6? Holy Moly "LION" is OUT!!
- zongamin, on 10/19/2007, -0/+1Leopard is 10.5, tard.
- davidrossiii, on 10/19/2007, -2/+3Well, if you think about it, Safari in Leopard isn't bringing a lot of changes. Here are basically all of them:
- xkilleddestinyx, on 10/20/2007, -1/+6not alot about Safari but cool to see internets history kinda thing
- over90000, on 10/19/2007, -5/+24If only Apple didn't suck at making software for Windows.
- wilhel1812, on 10/19/2007, -2/+8a better music library app for windows, mention it?
- petard, on 10/20/2007, -3/+7iTunes for Windows blows! Super slow and lagy!
- wilhel1812, on 12/17/2007, -0/+1still it's the best... that's sad
- schoate09, on 10/19/2007, -6/+1Windows Media Player. Hands down.
- davidrossiii, on 10/19/2007, -0/+3oh c'mon
media player sucks - astrosmash, on 10/19/2007, -0/+3The difference between WMP and iTunes is what pushed me to try out OS X, and I haven't looked back. Of course, that was in 2004. Pretty good timing, don't you think?
- davidrossiii, on 10/19/2007, -0/+3oh c'mon
- chrislee149, on 10/19/2007, -2/+3Foobar2000 is far superior.
This is coming from from a Mac-using Apple fan, by the way. Apple's software OS X is amazing, but it is seriously horrible for Windows. It's no wonder that most Windows users have such a poor impression of Mac software. - anjinash, on 10/19/2007, -0/+1Media Monkey. Don't let the goofy name fool you. It does about everything iTunes does, plus more, and does it faster and better. It watches folders for new music and doesn't have seizures when your music is on a networked drive. I truly wish MM had an OSX port.
Then there's Amarok 2.0, hopefully coming to OSX and Windows soon. Amarok slays iTunes in every conceivable way, no contest. - zongamin, on 10/19/2007, -0/+1Microsoft already does a pretty good job of making ***** software for windows anyway!
- petard, on 10/20/2007, -3/+7iTunes for Windows blows! Super slow and lagy!
- totorototoro, on 10/19/2007, -0/+13Yeah. I hope Windows users don't judge Safari based on the Windows beta...it is nowhere near as good as the OSX Safari beta.
- devindotcom, on 10/19/2007, -4/+3I like Winamp much better, personally. Try not to project your personal opinions on to the rest of the world. There are many options on windows and people like different things.
- davidrossiii, on 10/19/2007, -0/+3http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Amendment#Text
- wilhel1812, on 10/19/2007, -2/+8a better music library app for windows, mention it?
- wilhel1812, on 10/19/2007, -5/+11safari
- devindotcom, on 10/19/2007, -2/+7People are digging up a guy who just said
"safari"
Now THAT is brand dedication. - Ireland, on 10/19/2007, -0/+2No, they're digging him up because he's going on safari.
- astrosmash, on 10/19/2007, -0/+2✔
- devindotcom, on 10/19/2007, -2/+7People are digging up a guy who just said
- MtheoryX, on 10/19/2007, -2/+3Maybe I just didn't see it in the article, but was there a single technology in that roadmap that was developed outside the U.S.?
Not to sound like an ass, but for all the people that get bent out of shape saying "the U.S. doesn't own the internet" well...it sure as hell looks like they did the work of making it.- wilhel1812, on 10/18/2007, -0/+2good comment, but don't forget that CERN invented the internet. At least we have that to say:p
- stalefries, on 10/19/2007, -0/+2Wrong, CERN was the WWW, Internet came from a US gov't research project.
- MonkeyFarts, on 10/19/2007, -1/+3No, the Internet came from Al Gore. Also, I created Email.
- stalefries, on 10/19/2007, -0/+2Wrong, CERN was the WWW, Internet came from a US gov't research project.
- Balanced, on 10/20/2007, -0/+5Well, the WWW came out of research for CERN, which I believe is Swiss.
- meatmcguffin, on 10/19/2007, -0/+4And the first computer was British and the first modern computer was German. Did you have a point or are you just trying to sound like a pompous, patriotic idiot?
- Kappa00, on 10/19/2007, -0/+2USA USA USA!
- astrosmash, on 10/19/2007, -0/+3Tim Berners-lee invented WWW and developed the first web browser and web server, and he's English. But he did it on NEXTSTEP, which is Californian.
- wilhel1812, on 10/18/2007, -0/+2good comment, but don't forget that CERN invented the internet. At least we have that to say:p
- byttle, on 10/18/2007, -2/+3Firefox Rises from the Ashes of Netscape -
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Book_of_Mozilla - tafkase7en, on 10/19/2007, -5/+3Did they add a new tab button yet?
- Balanced, on 10/19/2007, -2/+10Command-T?
- NewChar, on 10/26/2007, -2/+2There are buttons for other commonly used browser functions (Back,Forward,Home). There is no reason to not at least have the option of an Add Tab button.
- MtheoryX, on 10/21/2007, -4/+2Right-click, New Tab?
Really, how simplified do you need it?
If you want Safari to be simplified anymore, you may consider going back to AOL. - MonkeyFarts, on 10/24/2007, -3/+4Er... Right click > Customize Toolbar, drag the "New Tab" button onto the toolbar. Not really that hard, and even Safari 2 has it.
- MtheoryX, on 10/21/2007, -4/+2Right-click, New Tab?
- tafkase7en, on 10/19/2007, -0/+1Thats a keyboard shortcut, not a button in the browser...
- Balanced, on 10/26/2007, -1/+1Right, two buttons. Sorry.
- NewChar, on 10/26/2007, -2/+2There are buttons for other commonly used browser functions (Back,Forward,Home). There is no reason to not at least have the option of an Add Tab button.
- JaceMO, on 10/19/2007, -4/+1The SafariStand plug-in has one: http://hetima.com/safari/stand-e.html
- Balanced, on 10/19/2007, -2/+10Command-T?
- jask0, on 10/20/2007, -2/+10All I want Safari to do is open links that open in a new window to open in ONE window, the same one that's opened.
- MtheoryX, on 10/20/2007, -3/+1While I sorta see what you're getting at, I think you're being way too picky. There are two options. They open in a new window. They open in a new tab in the same window. Hybrid of the two? How would you do that? What if you have multiple windows open? Which window would "win" the new tab?
- MonkeyFarts, on 10/20/2007, -0/+3I think he's referring to forcing all links to open within a single window. As in, whenever you click a link, it will never, ever open it in a new window. And if you have multiple windows open, then the one that gets a new tab is whichever one is currently active, or the last active window if you're opening from an external app.
My take on this is that it would be a good idea to add it just for the sake of fulfilling peoples' preferences. My opinion, however, is that it's not really a big deal. I simply bound F10 to a mouse button with USB Overdrive, so if I have multiple windows open, switching between windows is a single mouse click away, and it's much more convenient to me because I only see the active Safari windows pan out, and I can see the website before selecting it. Exposé is the best!- MtheoryX, on 10/20/2007, -0/+1Okay, I see what you mean. I agree, that feature could be usable; however, they will follow the 80/20 rule: If a feature is usable by 80% of your audience, build it in.
You can't develop for your 20%-ers because that leads to bloated code. I think a combination of Applescript and Quicksilver might suffice...unless greater than 20% of people start demanding the feature, of course.
- MtheoryX, on 10/20/2007, -0/+1Okay, I see what you mean. I agree, that feature could be usable; however, they will follow the 80/20 rule: If a feature is usable by 80% of your audience, build it in.
- MonkeyFarts, on 10/20/2007, -0/+3I think he's referring to forcing all links to open within a single window. As in, whenever you click a link, it will never, ever open it in a new window. And if you have multiple windows open, then the one that gets a new tab is whichever one is currently active, or the last active window if you're opening from an external app.
- JaceMO, on 10/19/2007, -2/+2SafriStand plugin does it: http://hetima.com/safari/stand-e.html
- Vician, on 10/19/2007, -0/+2Except, as far as we've been told and anyone knows, Input Managers such as SafariStand, Saft, and the rest will no longer work in Leopard. So, there goes that idea...
- dslozak, on 10/19/2007, -0/+3Command + Click. Problem solved.
- MtheoryX, on 10/20/2007, -3/+1While I sorta see what you're getting at, I think you're being way too picky. There are two options. They open in a new window. They open in a new tab in the same window. Hybrid of the two? How would you do that? What if you have multiple windows open? Which window would "win" the new tab?
- HydrogenOxide, on 10/19/2007, -2/+2Looks nearly the same. In other news, everyone not reading this is waiting for Mozilla to release FireFox 3.0
- MtheoryX, on 10/20/2007, -0/+4I have completely abandoned Firefox for Safari 3 on Leopard, and I couldn't be happier.
If they every get the memory under control, I *might* give Firefox a look again, but for now, I couldn't care less about Firefox.
BTW, it's Firefox, not FireFox...not everything uses upper camel case.- davidrossiii, on 10/18/2007, -0/+1have you tried Camino?
- MtheoryX, on 10/20/2007, -0/+1I tried it briefly under Panther when i had my iBook.
I really think the direction that WebKit is going is more interesting than the Gecko engine at this point though.
- MtheoryX, on 10/20/2007, -0/+1I tried it briefly under Panther when i had my iBook.
- davidrossiii, on 10/18/2007, -0/+1have you tried Camino?
- MtheoryX, on 10/20/2007, -0/+4I have completely abandoned Firefox for Safari 3 on Leopard, and I couldn't be happier.
- stelt, on 10/19/2007, -2/+2The article forgets to mention that version 3 introduces SVG support.
For the few who don't know what SVG is used for, see the rich spectrum on http://svg.startpagina.nl - MonkeyBoy87, on 10/19/2007, -0/+2anyone know how to make safari open a new window as a tab ?
- tweder, on 10/19/2007, -0/+3Command-click the link
- autoy, on 10/18/2007, -0/+1Or click with the mousewheel button. That's the mighty rollerball button if you happen to own one. The same works in firefox.
- yabos, on 10/20/2007, -0/+9All these articles make me really appreciate the GUIs around today. Those old programs are so damn ugly.
- Ireland, on 10/18/2007, -0/+1You have to start somewhere. Those old computers couldn't run today's GUI's after all.
- dagamer34, on 10/18/2007, -0/+1Why does all keep sending C&Ds to AppleInsider on this stuff? I was looking back at the Tiger series and it says they were taken down. =/
- daGUY, on 10/20/2007, -0/+2I've been loving this series of articles, but this one in particular put a LOT of focus on the history and not really much at all on Safari 3 itself. Perhaps since we already have the beta there isn't really much to talk about that we don't already know.
- dslozak, on 10/19/2007, -0/+2All I hope is that 3.0 and Flash get along.
- rville, on 10/19/2007, -0/+1Do the Google Apps work with the windows version of this browser yet?
- NeoRicen, on 10/19/2007, -1/+1I'm using the 3.0 Beta (You can get it at Apple's site) and I love it, the find is now like firefox but has some nifty effects to go with it. Looking forward to WebClip as well.
- Kelmon, on 10/19/2007, -1/+1I've enjoyed this series of articles but this one is definitely the poorest of the lot. This is probably because the beta has been out for around 4-months so we were already aware of much of the new features but in this article the Leopard-specific only comprises a small section on the last page. The history for web browser tend to be common knowledge so there wasn't anything new or interesting in the article unlike the others for me.
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