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- guytoronto, on 10/12/2007, -18/+33Fast-forward to 5min to get to the interesting stuff. Why would that guy throw 5 minutes of him blabbing at the front of this video?
- mfratt, on 10/12/2007, -6/+21I find it funny how Lisa Draw is 10x better than MS Paint, still shipping with windows XD
- greatblackowl, on 10/12/2007, -5/+19Don't click on that link... It's just spam.
- nyrol2, on 10/12/2007, -2/+14The Apple Lisa was great for its time! It let you draw circles, WITHIN boxes.
- SoundJudgment, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12It is 'rare' that anyone would have kept such an early video for 22 years stored away. Ever rarer is the fact that it is a completely stable and watchable picture, and doesn't bend and tear at the top of the screen such as many VHS tapes of that era are prone to do. Someone kept this old footage in very good shape. ;)
- emailingRob, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11"See I can cut the word, and then paste it up here."
"Wow can you do that again? It all happened so fast."
Wonderful video to dredge up from the archives. Dugg. - DigginTuesday, on 10/12/2007, -3/+12I did :) he waffles on for 5 minutes, although he clearly loves what he's doing rather than loving himself, so that's ok. The Lisa stuff was fascinating though.
The main reason... Microsurfs (book about life on Microsoft's campus, circa eighties) refered to a geeky party where the Apple Lisa was mentioned. My then girlfriend also called lisa rather liked the reference and lent me the book. Lovely girl, fond memories :)
Technically Lisa was advanced, edit (Apple Lisa, not Lisa girlfriend who was advanced in entirely different ways) it started in the late 70's, but we had the Commadore Amiga within five years of that and the Atari ST close behind. If you don't think it's impressive, write me a pre-emptive multitasking graphical operating system including a compiler, graphics package, scripting language, all the stuff we take for granted basically. These were smart pioneers one and all and deserve some kudos. - gaberowe, on 10/12/2007, -7/+16man that guy is annoying
- Gdoubleod, on 10/12/2007, -3/+11Wow this really makes me wish that youtube had a better fast-forward key... an interesting look at history though
- ahxiong, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9oh boy, look at how long it took for the calculator program to load hee hee
- t3hX, on 10/12/2007, -3/+10Or maybe because it was just a stupid comment? That would be the more obvious reason.
- robdazomba, on 10/12/2007, -3/+9I love how everyone bitches about the guy being annoying. He actually had a very interesting set up story to tell about the tape and what it was, but maybe he doesn't understand that most people on the Internet are burdened with the attention span of a hummingbird on crack. I guess I can understand the annoyance and impatience some of you are expressing.
Seriously, you should slow down and take it in. You might, you know... *learn* something at some point. - zweben, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7I found it pretty ammusing that the woman asking the questions about the computer was seemingly unimpressed with the entire UI and multitasking and drawing, but she was amazed when he made the text bigger.
But I guess that screen IS pretty small. - Benzido, on 10/12/2007, -4/+10I find it funny how you would put the same exact comment on digg and youtube.
- adiblasi, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Gabe! Well, it's Alfred. I got a text message from a friend, who told me about Digg.
Yes, sorry about the 5 minute intro. That video was intended for my small audience of friends and subscribers on YouTube, which is community-centric. I had to put this in perspective, and yes, damn, I had some accident -- and I almost didn't do that TV spot since it was so close the the damn reconstruction surgery!
I still have a Lisa system. It's in my office, next to a NeXT cube. I might make a follow-up documentary, going into the guts of those systems -- and powering them up to see if they boot or blow up. It will be great to do that without editing and just see what happens.
FYI - I got a few emails from Steve Wozniak. He really got a kick out of the vids.
Thanks for watching. Sorry about the blabbing. Let the damn thing buffer and skip in 5 minutes. Damn, should I post up some vids about the Apple /// ?
By the way, you can see my library of videos at
http://www.youtube.com/adiblasi
Make SURE you watch Macintosh G4 Upgrade, Gear Slut, Apple ][, and some of my comedy clips, including RenFest, Vegas 2006, and Christmas.
- Alfred
www.myspace.com/alfred_meta
www.solidnutrition.com - dotpage, on 10/12/2007, -4/+10Multitasking on a GUI in 1984... If I ever get into a time machine back to 1984, I'd pay the 10 grand for it...
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8This was the first time some people saw a PC's GUI.
- Odiwan, on 10/12/2007, -9/+14Great stuff, thanks!
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7I have 1 GB and windows vista still can't run that much. Go figure.
- redrighthand, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7Aside from it running a little sluggish and being black and white look how much of the overall appearance and commands have remained in place for all those years. Build it right the first time then refine.
- ThatBlokeRob, on 10/12/2007, -8/+13Up to 16 apps at once! Wow, Windows still can't do that! :P
*Waits for MS fans* - nofxjunkee, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4That video was fascinating just to hear how they described the interface when it was brand new. I think that a lot of people have forgotten some basic ideas about software, like how it should help you work faster and not have you learning to use the computer for days or weeks.
- evilpettingzoo, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6I wish they still made keyboards with loud ass keys... I really miss those.
- ryodoan, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6You will notice he was, is a salesman. They need to like to talk.
- digitalArtform, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6My neighbor had a Lisa. He ran the graphic design progrram at a major art school and was, I'm told, part of the team that was asked to help with icons or something. I'll bet he still has it.
- xGBox, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5As a computer associate, it saddens me (and our department) that I 'still' have to explain some of that stuff to consumers. But what's even worse is knowing that computer associates from the 80s had to explain almost 'all' the terminology to them.
- Avalontor, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4I'd like to know which 16 apps you would like to run at the same time.
- residentofevil, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5Tony Soprano has a brother that uses a Mac?
- jaydj, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5MS doesn't have fans. It has users.
- chandrab, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4Very cool....I've got an Apple Lisa-1 sitting next to my..First TRS-80 Model III, Commodore PET 2001 (8K RAM), Atari 800, Apple II+, KIM-1...I keep one Lisa at work to show the newbie programmers at work what we have today existed back in 1982. The Lisa was away head of it's time (yet a huge financial failure for Apple)
- 32 bit 68000 processor (5Mhz)
- 1MB RAM (Very expensive for 1982)
- Virtual Memory and Multitasking OS
- Integrated Applications (btw it also has cut & paste)
- Screen Saver (Dimmer really)
- Intelligent Power-switch (Puts all your docs away before shutting itself off)
- Twin read heads on the 5.25 Floppy for redundancy and speed (but non-standard)
- Diagnostics in ROM
- GUI Based Operating System (Mac's QuickDraw based on Lisa)
- LisaNet networking built-in
Larry Tesler et al, you did an awesome job!
read more here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Lisa - DelMonte, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1" I'll disagree that this is the first time anyone had seen these things, however- Xerox had developed a similar GUI in the late 70's"
I think it's obvious that he was talking about the general public when saying "this is the first time anyone had seen this". He was obviously aware that at least people working at Apple had seen something like this (while developing it) before his story was shown on TV.
The Xerox machines weren't released to the masses, nor covered by news stories. I bet that 99% of the US population never saw a GUI based computer at the time, which is not so far from "anyone". - tdowling, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Alfred, that was a really interesting video. I never knew that Lisa had a Multifinder type of thing going on from the very beginning! I need to improve on my knowledge of Apple history...
- DelMonte, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1The Lisa OS and the Mac OS have had drop shadows under the right-down side of windows since the beginning. But they were just black, not a semi-transparent gradient like in OS X.
- adiblasi, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Hey Check this out -- someone posted a video response to my Lisa video, and it shows the Xerox Alto system (ha, and no long intro)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSgOY4qIkcg - blampen, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3It is amazing how little things really have changed.
- adiblasi, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"Liser" - hahah YES my Lon_Giland NY Accent. LOL! One of my family members said the same thing! - Alfred
- scb0825, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1comment dugg just for "hummingbird on crack" lol
- chrisjj, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1That's exactly what I was thinking - real big loud clicks made you feel like you were doing really important work.
- carve, on 10/12/2007, -3/+4That is so cool that we see period vido where someone has to explain what a mouse is and what an icon is! We take it for granted today, but these were inovations at one time. I'll disagree that this is the first time anyone had seen these things, however- Xerox had developed a similar GUI in the late 70's
BTW- it is funny that "calculator" takes about 20 seconds to open. I'm impressed that his mouse curosr moves so quickly though. Did you see the size of that 5Mb HD!? - adiblasi, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Correct. It wasn't made for you.
The video was made for my YouTube subscribers. I did NOT post it on Digg -- someone else did. Not a problem. Good thing you can 'click off' and close the window.
So, do you have anything posted that is good that I can watch? Please. I'd enjoy seeing some tech oriented content from you. Please post your YouTube account info -- and if you don't have one, create one. - Alfred - BillDoE, on 10/12/2007, -3/+4He calls it Liser.
- adiblasi, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Full of myself? I would have to say... yes.. I turn that camera on myself quite a bit, so I can make my YouTube subscribers laugh. So, make sure to check out some of my other films. Enjoy! (don't worry, no long intros!) LOL! - Alfred
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKdw2mf_8Lo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpxY5OzfJNE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WStPzDBTc5M
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIeBm_rmE3I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igMN_pVaJcQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hU-1jnDy3RA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qmv4Y9fHyr0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzebHX01amg - scb0825, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1ok, well youtube has taken a ***** on it's self... video wont load :(
- adiblasi, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Hi SCB0825 - yes a friend tried to load the video earlier and it just sat there. Wow, I guess you DIGG people 'broke youtbe' hahah. Nice! $1.6 billion dollars and they can't show my lousy video from 1984.
By the way, DIGG this up if you want me to re-upload that video somewhere else, or upload it again on YouTube WITHOUT the long intro. Again, I was talking directly to my small base of YouTube friends and subscribers - Alfred - methodshop, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Warning: There is a very long 5 minute introduction before the Lisa demo clip. Alfred, the guy giving the demonstration in the video, is now a YouTube director and loves to suck up to his subscribers. He also apologizes for his 1984 haircut, suit and a recent nose surgery. But once the actual demonstration clip starts to play, you will probably enjoy it.
If you pay close attention, you will see the cursor switch to the hour glass quite a lot. Every time Alfred opens a window or document, he has to wait several moments for the Lisa to catch up. Good thing he's such a good talker and can fill the time blabbing with the robotic female host.
http://www.methodshop.com/2006/12/1984-apple-lisa-demo.shtml - adiblasi, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Morky - YES - 1.6 billion bucks - YouTube has some problems. Their Email system REALLY Sucks. OK, so this is me -- a character I created (using a Mac, lots of software, my music studio, and white contact lenses - gee do I have too much time on my hands?) complaining about the YouTube email system. Scope it out -- Alfred
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgFcfBPDTWs - Clocker, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2Hey, anomalya, you wouldn't have the new without the old. If Apple hadn't produced and marketed the Lisa and Mac back then, you wouldn't have whatever computer you're sitting in front of now.
- phytonix, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1I think it does not drop shadow now it is artifact of the video. But it definitely has animations. And it is multi-task. DOS seems not multi-task OS.
- adiblasi, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Hello Everyone - I cracked open an offsite storage facility, and I came across a bunch of old Apple stuff and some other crap. Take a look. Don't worry, no long intro! - Alfred
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gicTxyMMWeM - adiblasi, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0C'mon guys. One more DIGG to make this hit 1,000! Thanks for the interactive support (good and bad, it's all ok to me). I will have to make a custom clip for you guys (yes, under 5 minutes, and succinct).
Thanks again.
- Alfred -
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