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- thekaempfer, on 10/28/2007, -11/+81OS9 is dead? Thank God.
- dustPuppy, on 10/27/2007, -2/+46*****.
I JUST installed Riven. - dinostabOMG, on 10/27/2007, -4/+40Personally, the pre-OSX MacOSes were the biggest reason to stay away from Macs for me. I have significantly fewer complaints now; but anyway I am completely underwhelmed by emotion at this announcement.
- GreatDrok, on 10/29/2007, -1/+33Well, I just installed Leopard on my iBook G4 1st gen which is about the lowest spec machine it will run on. I bought this with Panther pre-installed, upgraded to Tiger and now to Leopard. Still indexing for spotlight so can't tell how quick it is but quickly noticed the loss of classic. To be honest, I haven't used any classic apps in a couple of years so it isn't really a loss. Of more note is the loss of the pinstripe look that existed on the first version of OS X. It was tamed in Panther, almost eradicated in Tiger and finally it is completely gone in Leopard. Same with brushed metal. Not sure about the new look, it seems a bit utilitarian but has a pleasing smoothness that is hard to describe.
- Tippis, on 10/26/2007, -1/+31They also have the market segment to do it.
Vista is burneded by legacy code because that's what the bulk of MS' clients (i.e. large corporations) want from it -- it is required to run, or at least access, their sprawling, ancient, and unreplacable office backbone architecture.
The segments where Apple has made inroads generally don't have these issues with legacy code that *must* keep on running, so Apple doesn't run the risk of alienating 50% of their market everytime they shed some outdated code.
...that's another reason why it's a *good thing* that OSX has such a small market share. - macamatition, on 10/28/2007, -4/+31I wonder if digg will still be around when we say goodbye to OS 10...Well RIP OS 9 I hardly knew ye!
- coltrane68, on 10/29/2007, -12/+38This shows why Apple is much more forward-looking than Microsoft. Vista is still saddled with legacy code from a decade ago. Apple has the guts to get rid of a leftover from a prior generation.
- uncledeercamp, on 10/27/2007, -2/+27Can't respond. Sacrificing goats to Steve Jobs.
- Ninjaneer, on 10/27/2007, -11/+35So let me get this straight...it's ok for Apple to kill an OS, but Microsoft gets condemned to the lowest circle of Hell for doing the same thing?
- tbenathan, on 10/28/2007, -2/+25Macintosh System 7 was a brilliant and pioneering operating system when it was released in 1991. Components such as full color QuickDraw and UI, cooperative multitasking, and aliases changed the way modern operating systems worked.
I recall as a young kid awaiting System 8 - codenamed Copland - with incredible anticipation. The project breakdown became my first brush with vaporware, and the beginning of the end for Apple's "Classic" operating system. - redxxx, on 10/27/2007, -0/+23"the three printshops still running QuarkXPress 4 and will be affected by this..."
Dugg for making me laugh, I used to work there. Good riddance. - inactive, on 10/28/2007, -3/+25It had a special feature that would crash the computer when you had been working on a project for a long time without saving.
- RedHerringHack, on 10/27/2007, -6/+28Didn't take microsoft long to steal that idea.
- dogearedboy, on 10/26/2007, -0/+22Actually Classic died back in 2002. It's been a zombie OS since then. May it rest in peace.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cl7xQ8i3fc0 - daeggman, on 10/28/2007, -0/+16I foresee a boom in OS9-capable vintage Mac emulators. As long as there are classic games to be played, there will be a way to play them.
- combatchuck, on 10/26/2007, -3/+18You're wrong. OS9 is almost universally reviled. It's technologically inferior to Windows 95. The only thing it had going for it was a decent UI design, and even that has been surpassed by everything on the market today.
- mrsteveman1, on 10/26/2007, -0/+15Because every few years Apple makes significant jumps forward and completely cuts off support for older programs, like you see here.
Microsoft refuses to do that, so old stuff works and brings all its crap with it. - pak314, on 10/26/2007, -0/+15Yes you are right on that. I have an old MSDOS program at work that uses direct access to serial port registers and it still works on my Windows XP command line. Apple tends to break compatibility sooner. Both methods have their advantages and disadvantages.
- MtheoryX, on 10/26/2007, -3/+15Basically.
- daeggman, on 10/27/2007, -1/+13This is unexpected, but not surprising when you think about the fact that it's been more than 6 years since the last update to OS 9. However, I still occasionally play Cliff Johnson's "Fool's Errand" and "3 in Three" and as yet, they are still only playable in Classic, so bring on the unofficial Mac OS Classic emulators!
- betobeto, on 10/28/2007, -0/+11I don't know about you, but I certainly don't miss the bomb icon. Oh well, we now have kernel panic screens instead. The more things change...
- daeggman, on 10/26/2007, -0/+10I liked the pre-OSX Mac OSes, but I will be the first to admit that they had serious problems. I hated how many times I had to restart those bad boys - force-quitting ANY application would more often than not send you looking for a paper clip (stupid recessed reset button on the stupid Rev. A iMac). I loved it when OS X showed up and pretty much did away with the complete system lock-ups for no good reason.
- daridave, on 10/26/2007, -0/+10I'll miss HyperCard! While I started programming the rough way, C & ASM, HyperCard is to me the first "fun time" I ever had playing around with code/scripts. I wonder if those school project diskettes still work ... heh. Good times.
- Elranzer, on 10/27/2007, -5/+15RIP, and good riddance.
- Balanced, on 10/27/2007, -1/+10As far as hardware, pretty much.
Hopefully some colleges will keep documentation (The older Inside Mac books, at least) for the Classic Mac OS around for those looking into using ideas from it. The MacOS had some innovative concepts and I'm sure a few just aren't used anymore and would be useful for those looking into designing new systems. - ropers, on 10/26/2007, -0/+9The note (which is linked but easily overlooked in the above article): http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=303 ...
- greebowarrior, on 10/27/2007, -1/+9actually, thats system 6. OS 9 looked like this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Mac_OS_9_screen ...
- davewashere, on 10/26/2007, -0/+8Don't you ever mention that OS in my presence again!
- reuscel, on 10/27/2007, -3/+10"so only like Hypercard user groups"
So you're like a like professional like writer, right? Like awesome. - Charlotte_Web, on 10/26/2007, -0/+7And Marathon, Bungie's first breakout hit series.
- DJCult, on 10/27/2007, -0/+6Oi, no *****. I'm not going to lose Deus Ex and Diablo. Shoot. Guess I'm holding out on Leopard.
- Ssullivan, on 10/26/2007, -1/+7whoosh... thats the sound of his point going right over your head
- Balanced, on 10/27/2007, -0/+6Essentially it required every application to say "OK, now it's someone else's turn."
The good side was that games (for example) could effectively take over the system for performance. The bad side is that poorly-written applications might 'forget' to let other apps have a turn and cause other processes to bog down. - Charlotte_Web, on 10/26/2007, -1/+7The Mac OS series was also easy to troubleshoot. You could freely move files in and out of the System Folder without fear of completely hosing the system; no DLL's, and no registry. In fact, that was all that Apple's own Extensions Manger utility did, was move files in and out. I was a sys admin back in the day, and there was no question in my mind which platform was easier to work on.
That sort of simplicity is now long gone. Who says that computers are geting easier to work on? - sittered, on 10/27/2007, -0/+6You are all inexcusably forgetting Power Pete.
- blackmage439, on 10/26/2007, -0/+6I work at a school, and I can tell you Classic isn't dead yet, and neither are the "iGlobe" iMacs in all their fruity colors. I know of a couple instructors who still uses Works 4.0...
- ilgaz, on 10/29/2007, -1/+7That is also how why Apple is and will be considered a joke in enterprise and corporate world.
Do you think MS is just too touchy and nostalgic to support 16 bit Applications on MS Windows Vista? No, they just care about that 100.000 terminal company running VB 6 clients to access their mainframes. - ButchersBoy, on 10/26/2007, -5/+10Just gimme AmigaOS4.
- arbulus, on 10/27/2007, -1/+6No, that picture is probably System 6.
- stelth, on 10/26/2007, -3/+8I only started using a Mac in 1999 so I cut my teeth on OS9 and coming from a Windows background I just couldn't believe how terrible it was. I was in awe of how people kept raving about how awesome Macs were. I thought they were retarded until OSX came out and suddenly it all made sense. They knew that in which I did not. Now OSX clearly eclipses Windows in pretty much every way.
- mrsteveman1, on 10/26/2007, -2/+7Those pinstripes were incredibly annoying even when they were new, so was brushed metal.
- neostryder, on 10/26/2007, -0/+5Yeah, right...MacOS9 will never die! Enter SheepShaver:
http://gwenole.beauchesne.info/en/projects/sheepsh ... - inactive, on 10/26/2007, -0/+5And both are related to market share. If Microsoft drop support for things too soon, they risk losing the companies that only stick with them for continuity.
- nixfu, on 10/26/2007, -0/+5Can still do the same things on OSX: http://www.supercard.us/
- inactive, on 10/27/2007, -2/+6You hardly knew OS 9? You lucky bastard.
- jackmaninov, on 10/26/2007, -3/+7Noooo! I can't play Oregon Trail on my Powerbook G4 after I upgrade!?! *tear*
- threemagic, on 10/26/2007, -0/+4Lots of print shop still do. Not only do they have to upgrade all their hardware, they have to upgrade all their software. For small shops with 6-10 machines that's a HUGE expense.
Not everyone who uses machines sits at home... - schlongmeister, on 10/26/2007, -0/+4I still have to use OS 9 at work on an old Bondi Blue G3 to cut vinyl on a Roland plotter. It's not that we can't afford a new computer, it's that the drivers for the CAD cutter are so expensive that we can't justify buying a new Mac and a new driver for OS X. Plus, that's the computer that still has Freehand 9 installed on it in order to open up and convert those old backed up files.
- SteveMax, on 10/27/2007, -1/+5Not to be a prick, but System7's cooperative multitasking still wasn't up to the same level as the Amiga's preemptive multitasking system that had been around since the mid 80s. That system was the goal that consumer-level OSs had been trying to get to until Windows XP (as the first consumer-level WinNT kernel), OS X or Linux's popularization.
- mercano, on 10/26/2007, -0/+4The Mac version Oregon Trail was awesome. Point & click hunting FTW!
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