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- dareiff, on 10/11/2007, -3/+151"But is there an Apple logo on it?"
I find David Pogue's review to be ... better than Mossberg's. - totorototoro, on 10/11/2007, -6/+100seriously, does David Pogue have the greatest job at the NY Times, or what? Damn.
- edmoney90, on 10/11/2007, -4/+75Aaron Carter WTF?
- jklyon, on 10/11/2007, -5/+47Very creative review. I enjoyed it. But I wish someone would mention something about landscape texting! I want him to just turn that iPhone sideways when that iPhone keyboard pops up!
- randomgeek, on 10/11/2007, -5/+40Yes it has no Flash support.
1. Battery life
2. Annoying ads
3. Video sites that compete with YouTube (which has a 'module' on the iPhone)
Before YouTube and all the video services started using Flash as video players all I ever heard were people bashing Flash for being annoying. Hell, I remember trying to get Flash working in Linux a few years ago and the overwhelming response was "Why the hell would you do -that- ?" Let's not forget that we're talking about a palm sized device. If Flash is annoying as hell on a 20" monitor, it's going absolutely suck on a tiny little screen. Oh and "punch the monkey" will decimate your battery. But it seems to be popular to bash the device before it's even out, so have at it. - inactive, on 10/11/2007, -2/+36Anyone notice TWiT in coverflow? ;-)
- hellotyler, on 10/11/2007, -3/+35So the first version isn't the most amazing thing out there. Give it time. Remember the first iPod ?
B&W Screen, limited storage, no photos..
http://techepics.com/files/firstipod.jpg
Now ?
http://i.pricerunner.com/prod/17_6_11_8_733680s/Apple_iPod_Video_80GB_Black.jpeg
Apple hasn't failed yet, and even if some of you disagree their company is EXPLODING and people are eating it up like candy. They put out good products, solidly designed, consistently improve, and know how to MARKET their product. - kuyakew, on 10/11/2007, -2/+32pogue is awesome. my dad loves his show on discovery, and the guy barely knows how to work a computer. he presents this stuff in a clear and humorous way its great.
- smurf22, on 10/11/2007, -8/+37If the Iphone wasnt on AT and Ts network it would be so much better.
- rollerxpig, on 10/11/2007, -2/+28Anyone notice Aaron Carter...
- intilli4, on 10/11/2007, -6/+28OMFG that had to be the best review of the iPhone to date. I cracked up near the end. (I would be the one asking about the logo)
- mississippiman, on 10/11/2007, -6/+27oh man, no flash, so that means almost no ads slowing down an already slow connection.
Thats just awful - jermm, on 10/11/2007, -0/+19By DPI, not total # of pixels
- jmc730, on 10/11/2007, -0/+17He's referring to pixels per square inch resolution, as opposed to total number of pixels resolution. When you have a high pixel density, stuff looks extra sharp and crisp. The iPhone has a 160 dpi screen. Most monitors are between 85-100 dpi. Almost all Apple displays are between 95-100 dpi, if you have one of those around.
- Mediaright, on 10/11/2007, -3/+18There's actually a good technical reason Flash isn't on the iPhone: the current Flash mobile version sucks the battery time a lot. So even if they had it built-in, you'd be bitching about the battery power being so low whenever you booted up Line Rider. Fortunately, this is one of those things they can fix in software if Flash ever gets their act together.
- fanboydcs, on 10/11/2007, -0/+14it has a Higher DPI, the highest "resolution" might not be the correct term, but the DPI is Much higher than any computer display that is less than $1000 dollars.
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -3/+16http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VcRfAaIb2Ro
^ direct link. - jbus, on 10/11/2007, -1/+14Maybe this will make some companies abandon some of theses annoying "flash required" web sites. I can see it now... Thousands of executives playing with their shiny new iPhones and wondering why they can't view their corporate website. "Why can I view the competitors site, but can't I view our web site? ", "Because we use flash sir?" "Well, we don't need any flashing on our website, it's bright enough. Make it a normal website." I definitely applaud Apple for this.
- Quix, on 10/11/2007, -2/+14In flag564's bitter, twisted world, *any* positive feedback about an Apple product is an "expected shill review."
Just because you're a shill for Microsoft, flag, doesn't make these people shills for Apple.
Looks like flag's journalist hate list is going to get a *lot* longer once the iPhone is out in the wild. - jjesusfreak01, on 10/11/2007, -0/+12"You can get online with a wireless hotspot, which is fast and satisfying...
Or AT&Ts cellular network, which is slow and horrible..." - AceTracer, on 10/11/2007, -1/+13"But does it have an Apple logo?"
David Pogue is probably my favorite columnist. - sdaf, on 10/11/2007, -0/+12Give the guy a break, there clearly was a TWiT logo in the cover flow :)
- shaun3000, on 10/11/2007, -2/+13I thought the Pogue review, while glossing over several details, was still fairly negative. I mean, come on: "AT&T's cellular network, which is slow and horrible." Not exactly glowing...
- kethraal, on 10/11/2007, -5/+11In all honesty though, with the exception of YouTube/DailyMotion, etc, Flash sucks.
No good non-video/non-game site should require it.
Also, how many videos/multi-MB games do you think you'll be watching via EDGE? - Sprules04, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6Damn that's a lot of acronyms.
- fungible, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6It's also amazing how movie reviewers all seem to have seen a film first and SURPRISE deliver reviews right when it opens. Amazing, I say!
- mrpink.137, on 10/11/2007, -3/+8dugg for the video of Conan's trip to Finland
- fjc8, on 10/11/2007, -5/+10"Voice quality is said to be good -- not great."
If the iPhone used 3G, this would be improved (while the device was on a 3G network)... AT&T since 2004-2005 has changed their network's codec from EFR (enhanced full rate) to AMR-HR/FR (adaptive multi rate half-rate or full-rate). AMR-HR uses half of the available timeslot (compared to AMR-FR or EFR) meaning that the sound quality will be worse. I am not sure if AMR-HR is always used or only during times of network congestion, but I and many others have noticed the decline in quality since the switch from EFR.
Since AMR adapts the audio bitrate based on signal quality and WCDMA provides much more bandwidth than GSM & should also provide better conditions to the audio codec, 3G on AT&T right now sounds noticeably better. If AT&T used AMR-WB (AMR wideband), voice quality should approach that of a clean analog line/signal or digital ulaw stream when talking over the POTS & sound more like high-bandwidth codecs like the one that is used by Skype. - Ricky8765, on 10/11/2007, -1/+6"I find David Pogue's review to be ... better than Mossberg's."
I find you.... to be correct - Bootes, on 10/11/2007, -4/+9The internet does not equal Flash. Flash is an add-on to websites.
- gagan97, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4very funny..
- Step1Mark, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4thats apples fault though
- mikehc, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4I think he meant Sun Java. Because if it support Ajax I'm pretty sure it support JavaScript.
- mattski2191, on 04/09/2009, -4/+7Definitely better than Mossberg's review. Definitely more funny and creative albeit a little less informative.
- Mediaright, on 10/11/2007, -2/+5iMovie actually...but apparently Pogue has been said to squeeze more value out of iMovie than anyone else can.
- fantasticjon, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3I think it is revolutionary. Not in the sense that there is new technology that no one else has invented, but there is current technology that people want that is implemented 100x better. Every try the music player on most phones, pathetic. Ever try to surf the internet on most phones... not even usable. It doesn't raise the bar on the feature list on the side of the box. It raises the bar on how usable those features actually are.
- AceTracer, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3It's been well established YouTube's numbers are slow to update.
- FierceGrape, on 10/11/2007, -2/+5Aaron Carter FTW!
- jbella, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3Is this why I hear static when I get put on hold and the hold music is playing?
- operand, on 10/11/2007, -1/+4Keep in mind that it took six years from the first iPod to now. The difference is that the iPhone faces much more competition in a saturated market and this phone isn't as *revolutionary* as the media and fanboys lead you to believe.
- cookiebearo, on 10/11/2007, -3/+6Iphone? AT and T?
:/ - Balanced, on 10/11/2007, -1/+4Apple's failed many times... The Newton, the Cube, thew Apple III.
THey have, however, generally learned from their mistakes.
We'll see how this goes. - ShawnKing, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3I appeared in, shot and edited this video for Pogue - squeezing "more value out out of iMovie" really isn't that hard.
- brundlefly76, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3whats the matter with Verizon?
I thought them and SprintPCS had the best broadband networks with massive 1xRTT and EVDO coverage, and EVDO Rev A coming in the fall - ? - ioannusdeverani, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Yes. He has a great sense of humour; remember the one where he was "proving" that vista didn't copy OSX? That was hillarious... "Widgets -- Gadgets -- not the same!"
- Ricky8765, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2They have an exclusive 5 year contract with Apple... they will be the ONLY provider until 2012
- elfguy, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3"It can also handle corporate email using Microsoft's Exchange system, if your IT department cooperates by enabling a setting on the server." Anyone who's been in the industry knows what this means. They mean the administrator has to turn on POP support in Exchange. That basically means the iPhone does NOT support MS Exchange in the traditional way, and would only access it as a POP email server, with none of the benefits people want by using Exchange such as sync and such.
- superkendall, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2What people forget, is that many iPod features were added over time - even to the original iPod. No the 1st gen iPods still cannot play video. But lots and lots of software and usability enhancements made it to even the 1st gen iPod, along with the newer models - rnadom play by album for one (a feature I requested, though I'm sure I was just one of many who did so).
- wildsnake, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Apple did ask other Cellular carriers, but they didn't want to settle to their demands.
- fanboydcs, on 10/11/2007, -4/+6does anyone stop to think that flash is not supported because the input device is your finger? Most flash sites use a cursor which a multitouch screen would have a hard time with. Look at the nokia 770 it has flash but its not usable because the interface is with a stylus and has no mouse cursor.
Apple would not allow this on their phone since it would be a bad experience to their customers. hopefully there will be a way around this but I don't see it being possible any time soon. -
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