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- MacParrot, on 08/08/2008, -18/+75And how long will it be before the first "but...but...but...I thought it just works?" appears?
Software has bugs. Maker of software fixes them. That's always a good thing whether it comes from Apple, Microsoft or whoever. - FredFredrickson, on 08/08/2008, -21/+54I'll probably never understand how one community can simultaneously tout their system as completely bullet-proof and then tout bi-weekly updates that fix hundreds of problems.
- wildsnake, on 08/08/2008, -5/+28The only ***** that is never fixed is Safari.
- sirbeta, on 08/08/2008, -4/+25Why is this even news?
- batmanz, on 08/08/2008, -15/+28Every time. Every single time.
Why is it that whenever Apple releases updates, it somehow makes the frontpage? They're UPDATES, not a new OS. You don't see the Windows fanboys digging an article every second Tuesday of the month. Apple has this weird mentality that they are a community of users, and it unfortunately allows a large amount of Mac users to think that they really are something special.
/rant off/ - mrmacky, on 08/08/2008, -10/+22Because - at the end of the day, when ***** hits the fan, Linux, Mac OS X, Plan9, are all more secure alternatives than Windows.
Bullet proof, no... but then again, Kevlar isn't perfect either. - digitalarcanum, on 08/08/2008, -0/+11ITT sub-thread: ppl who don't understand what DEP does.
- sysop073, on 08/08/2008, -8/+18Defensive enough? At least wait until Windows people start attacking before you unleash waves of fury. I doubt they'll say anything, it's not like Windows is a bastion of perfection
- alarchy, on 08/08/2008, -1/+11If you're having DEP problems, then Ubisoft is to blame and not Microsoft. All DEP does is protect no-execute memory, so there shouldn't be any properly coded software trying to run from there.
If Fallout 1 will install in Vista (it barely could in Windows 95 as it was), then I doubt you can blame Microsoft for this problem. - MacParrot, on 08/08/2008, -1/+9I'm not aware of any new features released with these point updates. It was mostly just making what was supposed to work actually...well work.
- inactive, on 08/08/2008, -13/+21Macs have bugs?
- leerayIG88, on 08/08/2008, -3/+11I love baked apples but I LOVE mayo.
- DeathGod321, on 08/08/2008, -2/+10Leave it to the pricks at apple to tell developers to spend their entire weekend testing the latest build for something they've been working on all week long.
(How's that for trolling? Also, why do trolls have to be males?) - fyngyrz, on 08/09/2008, -1/+8Leopard had most assuredly NOT "always been stable."
It still isn't stable; bugs abound. Attach some USB card readers, the machine won't reboot. Apps like Newsfire can get it into a state where it hangs for 30-60 seconds at a time after every mouseclick; trying to get a reboot started under those conditions is a nightmare, it can take half an hour (unless you want to risk your data by hitting the power button.) The graphics display of the SETI @ home component of BOINC; On reboot, especially with many USB devices attached, the system controller gets confused, and all you get are error beeps. The only fix -- thus far -- according to Apple is to detach EVERYTHING from the system, reboot, then re-attach. Time machine fails during backups on a fairly regular basis. Some USB hard drives won't re-attach unless they are powered down after reboot, despite having been brought down softly; Thumbnails end up on the desktop incompletely rendered when copied or generated from another system. The suggested way to regenerate them, via the info window, won't do it. Aside from bugs, ridiculous limitations remain; you can't refresh a remote network share; windows don't retain sorting order between different listing types; wifi connections to other Macs take minutes to realize that file sharing via the public folder has been available. Quite aside from these well known problems, if Apple is coming with 100 bugfixes, doesn't that make a claim of "stable" sound a little... I don't know, maybe silly? 100 changes to fix problems doesn't exactly reflect a perfect release (especially since this isn't the first such update to Leopard.)
Yee gads man, I *love* my Mac, but it is purely ridiculous to claim it is stable; it is anything but. They rushed Leopard out the door without many of the key features they promised (like RTG graphics, for instance), and they've not given it anywhere near the attention it needs since. They're pretty busy with iPods and iPhones and so on; Apple is no longer just a computer company. We're just going to have to be patient. - supermanred, on 08/08/2008, -15/+22Leopard has always been stable. OS X has always been stable for that matter. Apple has always frequently updated their OSes.
iPhone firmware 2.0 was a bit *****, but that was mostly applications being unstable and not so much the built in Apple apps. - DelMonte, on 08/08/2008, -1/+8"I'll probably never understand how one community can simultaneously tout their system as completely bullet-proof and then tout bi-weekly updates that fix hundreds of problems."
Who ever said that?
Care to find me any concrete examples of a Mac user stating that OS X is "completely bullet-proof" in one way or the other? It should be easy to find since "the community" supposedly stated that? Too bad you won't find more than a handful of posts among the millions of Mac user posts about this topic.
After years of scouring many different kinds of forums, I've never seen anyone claiming that OS X was "bullet-proof" or "invulnerable" or whatever synonym you can come up with. The exception would be obvious trolls that post some sarcastic remark to that effect. Only people like you are perpetuating the myth that Mac that users think that.
My theory about where these mythical non-existent Mac users come from is that when a Mac users says "Macs DON'T get viruses" is interpreted as "Macs CAN'T and WON'T get viruses, ever" which is a different thing.
Mac users are well aware of the possibility that someday there might be a real Mac virus attack. But for now and the past 7 years, there wasn't any, so saying "Macs don't get viruses" is true. I guess it's a hard concept to grasp for people that take viruses on their platform for "granted". - mufffin, on 08/08/2008, -2/+9You don't have any friends, let alone 6.
- GeneralFailure0, on 08/09/2008, -1/+8Everything Apple does is doubleplusgood with me.
- clsslc, on 08/08/2008, -15/+21"At least wait until Windows people start attacking" ...
PCs rule, Macs drool. Apple sucks. - edstate, on 08/08/2008, -3/+9Whatever. I'm a mactard myself and a stock holder since forever... imo Apple is still the best thing going. But the fact is that Leopard was the least stable release I can remember. Very, very minor upgrades, lots of buggy stuff, and Spaces still doesn't work properly; not even w/ Apple's own software. My brand new iPhone crashes at least once a day, as does most other people's. You can't dig down the truth!!
Oh, wait. I guess you can. - jer2eydevil88, on 08/08/2008, -3/+9Firefox.
- max1018, on 08/09/2008, -3/+9Hey, look up in the ***** toolbar, select Customize, turn the Apple category off and Save. Bye.
- Stieffers, on 08/08/2008, -2/+8New Windows Update Fixes TEN (10) Bugs!
The new windows patch is fixing ten bugs! Testers have already been hard at work testing the small, 100KB fix. - max1018, on 08/09/2008, -0/+5True, but sadly those misinterpretations make people who use OS X like me (and you?) seem like total dicks who love to worship Steve Jobs every second of their lives.
- masterkenobi, on 08/08/2008, -0/+5......because Apple is in the title?
- bsolidgold, on 08/08/2008, -0/+5Congratulations.
- inactive, on 08/08/2008, -4/+9news because of the Vista backlash and "just works" theory of Apple....all software have bugs - Apple just has good advertising
- zdiggler, on 08/08/2008, -1/+6UBI Soft don't know how to make Installers!
- inactive, on 08/08/2008, -0/+4so can I play diablo2 again?
- zzz@tkz, on 08/08/2008, -0/+4Diablo 2/Starcraft fix pleaseeeee
- fuckingusername, on 08/08/2008, -1/+5cause no one posted a McCain or Obama or Ipod article
- Lionhart, on 08/08/2008, -1/+5Sounds like a really fun weekend..
- jasonh1234, on 08/08/2008, -4/+8I fix computers for a living and I completely agree with this statement.
XP & Vista work pays my bills.
Mac work... pays for the popcorn at a movie. - ilgaz, on 08/08/2008, -0/+4Digg needs a iPhone section so the real Digg.com/apple stories like this which made Digg popular isn't considered nostalgic.
40% of Apple's income comes from systems (desktops, laptops). Enough with the iPhone , fix the Leopard I would say.
90% of iPhone stories you see and vote are in fact off-topic in Apple section, they belong to "Gadgets".
Leopard is not stable as 10.4.11 for some of us and we are for every story which gives a little info about next update. Or would you prefer "Hey, I bought $1000 iPhone application, look how stupid and rich I am?" type of stories? Is it what left out of Apple IT media scene?
- jer2eydevil88, on 08/08/2008, -0/+4http://www.eve-online.com
Just saying. - Erythroxylum, on 08/08/2008, -6/+9I think Orwell had a phrase for it.
- zdiggler, on 08/08/2008, -2/+5Wait until more 3rd party devices, drivers and software for mac. They also will have hard time making thing work right like Windows.
Like.. When I try to install Rosetta Stone software on my customer mac, she got a very old G4 or G5 All in one deal with old OSX in it.
RS want newer version of OSX to work. - banmaster, on 08/08/2008, -7/+10Actually, publicly verifiable stats would seem to disagree with you.
Remember that little contest where OSX was the first OS to be hacked? It took Vista till the next day to get compromised and linux remained standing at the end. - MacParrot, on 08/08/2008, -5/+8On the majority of Macs, it was stable from the beginning. Some of the "features" they touted didn't work very well (like Back to my Mac and Time Machine), but they seem to work pretty well now.
Is anyone aware if Apple fixed the problems with G5 Macs and WiFi in 10.5? I still have my kid's iMac on 10.4 because of that little bit of heaven. - Zeddd, on 08/09/2008, -0/+3It's out in October... pretty far from "bi-weekly". Try reading the article next time.
- roflbrothel, on 08/09/2008, -0/+3My WiFi begs to differ.
Tiger was the *****.
Leopard, not so much. Between wireless and various weird ***** going on, I'm actually considering wiping and sticking with 10.4 until Apple ***** 10.5. - colincornaby, on 08/08/2008, -2/+5"Microsoft Games are separate from Microsoft Windows.
Try downloading a Vista patch or emailing them."
I'm running the latest version.
If a Microsoft's own games don't work properly under DEP, then don't you think maybe there is something wrong there? - inactive, on 08/08/2008, -0/+3this wasn't meant as an anti mac stab, apple edited out 256 color support from nvidia's drivers and now d2 and starcraft don't work
- fuckingusername, on 08/08/2008, -3/+6Digg needs a beta news section so all the little Apples and Ipods can have their own lil basket
- anarchytv, on 08/08/2008, -0/+3100+ bug fixes means there were 100+ bugs in there noone knew about when it was released....
- colincornaby, on 08/08/2008, -3/+6"If you're having DEP problems, then Ubisoft is to blame and not Microsoft. All DEP does is protect no-execute memory, so there shouldn't be any properly coded software trying to run from there. "
If I turn on DEP for Age of Empires 3, it won't run. Please explain to me how a Microsoft published program won't run with DEP. - zdiggler, on 08/08/2008, -6/+9Old mac users are weird. I used to go to Local BBS meets and Mac Users are bunch of looser then. They were pissed because they got no software choice for them nor hardware.
Digg me down!! I want to set a record for my self! - se1zure, on 08/09/2008, -0/+2err you can run windows natively on macs, so you are wrong about the "virtualization".
- inactive, on 08/08/2008, -6/+8so it's not secure???? WTF
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