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- jesusface, on 10/31/2008, -9/+419Maybe Opera won't crash every 5 min like Safari does on the iPhone:)
- domness, on 10/30/2008, -4/+366Competition is what the apps on the iPhone need!
Without any competition, the iPhone Safari Browser almost need not need to update and get any better. But with competition it means Apple has to keep on top and prove themselves worthy! - mattluiz, on 08/28/2009, -6/+325Release it as a jailbroken app!
- seenxu, on 10/30/2008, -11/+276I like safari, my default browser on my old powerbook, and I seldom use opera, but why apple won't allow some fair competition here? what reasons make a stingy apple to reach this decision!? security or what?
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; ;, ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ‘, ; ;’, . . . . .,’ ;,’ ; ; ; ;, ; ; ;,’-, ; ;,’ ‘’~--‘’’ - Venator, on 10/31/2008, -19/+192This is why Android, in the long run, will be far superior.
Just give them time people! - Glugory, on 10/31/2008, -16/+181Was anyone actually surprised by this? Steve Jobs is an absolute control freak. You think he wants there to be a possibility that another company will do a better version of something he's done on his own device? ***** naive Apple fanboys.
- RSAgent007, on 10/31/2008, -11/+169That's just awful. At least Microsoft doesn't ban Firefox, Opera, Chrome, and Safari.
But of course, since it's Apple, they're going to get a free pass. - Applied, on 10/31/2008, -5/+134They could always release it on Android. :)
- s73v3r, on 10/31/2008, -10/+124Probably the same reasons which has made them deny dozens of other apps.
"It duplicates functionality already found on the iPhone."
Bad form, Apple. Bad form.
Posted from my iPod Touch. - Rowan187, on 10/31/2008, -3/+113oh yeah. totally didn't see this coming. shocked.
- jruggiero, on 10/31/2008, -4/+70This is just wrong! They should allow it in all fairness.
- Farik, on 10/31/2008, -0/+63Cydia is the clear victor this time around.
- n8dude, on 10/31/2008, -0/+59I have no doubt that they will :)
- u8myfoood, on 10/31/2008, -2/+58On Windows Mobile, you get Pocket IE, Opera Mini, Opera Mobile, Skyfire (best of all), and a couple more open source ones, and no one tells you that you can't install any of the other ones!
- WiZZLa, on 10/31/2008, -2/+57Apple not playing fair and is against competition? That's unpossible!
- Farik, on 10/31/2008, -5/+58iPhone Safari ≠ Mac OS Safari.
- CUBSWILLWIN, on 10/31/2008, -6/+58A little bit of a Monopolization kind of attitude. Not that I don't like Apple, but that's their drift when it comes to iPhones.
- pintomp3, on 10/31/2008, -4/+52Apple: Think.. the way Steve wants you to.
- Marlorn, on 10/31/2008, -4/+46Typical Apple move.
- SuperMoses, on 10/31/2008, -4/+44"but why apple won't allow some fair competition here?"
Umm, that's how their business model has been since day one. Hence, them not allowing OS X on any computer other than a Mac created by Apple. You don't see a successful mac clone market for a reason. This is Apple folks, nothing new here. You show me when Ted's local computer shop starts legally building Mac clones, then I'll believe Apple is changing their ways. - youannoyme, on 10/31/2008, -8/+45Hehe...reminds me of the countless "It's the age of the Linux Desktop" cries that have rang out over the years. It's better...just give it time....and more time...and maybe more...
Btw, I use linux. - ianenos03, on 10/31/2008, -4/+38With Android coming to fruition, it might be wise for Apple to at least embrace the semblance of a somewhat open platform. Or maybe not. Don't argue with The Steve.
- Rowan187, on 10/31/2008, -14/+48exactly. they can continue to say their browser is as good as it gets on the iPhone because the lazy ***** don't have to do anything to it. You're stuck with it. If Opera came into the battle, Apple would actually have to try to improve their stuff, they'd rather sit back enjoying your money and working on the next iPhone to get even more money from people that think they always need the newest apple product.
dugg down I know, digg is full of macfags. - MonAmieNina, on 10/31/2008, -17/+48I've been an apple fan for a long time (since '93), but lately it seems they are going the John McCain way with all the lame negative advertising and this browser issue as well. It's ironic that the newest ads are making fun of the PC's for putting their money into ads when apple ads outnumber pc ads 10 to 1. I want to love you - I really do, but you're making it so hard as of late.
- KibibyteBrain, on 10/31/2008, -2/+31Well, they always say that there is only one real reason to fear competition... And think about it, if Opera, a cross platform app, becomes a killer app on the iPhone, it will make iPhone users more confident to migrate to other platforms that support it when upgrade time comes around.
- rehrer, on 10/31/2008, -4/+33as usual it's apple's way or the highway. lame.
- cassaffousth, on 10/31/2008, -4/+33Apple is worse than microsoft!
- postitnote, on 10/31/2008, -1/+29It doesn't make it acceptable. I'd rather have it not load images when it runs out of memory rather than crash.
- Pake, on 10/31/2008, -5/+31"Unlike other computer manufacturers they actually care about the user experience, so you don't see the sort of thing you mention."
Because Copy+Paste on the iPhone is proof of that, eh?
Apple doesn't give a ***** about it's customers or the experience of usage. They only care about monopolizing the ***** out of what they have and as Rowan says, make sure their employees have to do as little as possible. - lockerhaxor, on 10/31/2008, -6/+30Bravo Apple, be stupid about competition that in the long run would improve your browser. Honestly I don't like Mobile Safari. Let us use Opera!
Otherwise release it as a jailbroken app. - inactive, on 10/31/2008, -0/+23"Posted from my iPod Touch."
At least we know you aren't copy/pasting your messages between threads! - Terr01, on 10/31/2008, -4/+27It's just funny that some of the same behavior that would have had a horde of Apple fans raving against Microsoft doesn't seem to get much attention or care.
P.S.: I consider the Linux folks a sort of "swing vote" here. - SwedishNinja, on 10/31/2008, -3/+25I have a HTC Touch Diamond and I must say that Opera is AWESOME.
- haikuFU, on 10/31/2008, -1/+23Someone port Android to the iPhone. Add BES support while you're at it. Thanks.
- enclaved, on 10/31/2008, -1/+22what
with leaps like that don't go near cliffs if you want to live. - marksands07, on 10/31/2008, -0/+20If Opera releases this as a jailbroken app, then I'll go back to jailbreak and screw the app store. It's coming more apparent to me that jailbroken apps are better than the app store. And that way I can have my video recorder back! :)
- godofpumpkins, on 10/31/2008, -11/+31There's also the clause on the contract explicitly saying that they do not accept apps that download and interpret code. Javascript easily falls into this category, and so they can just point at that clause in the agreement and say "told you so", without even having to pull the "too similar to one of our apps" *****. I'm not saying Apple's behaving nicely in the iPhone field, but it was unwise of Opera to blatantly write an app that violates the terms and, and they shouldn't be surprised it got rejected.
- FishThePirate, on 10/31/2008, -5/+24Surprise, Apple is a tight-fisted, corporate *****.
- techrevolution, on 10/31/2008, -5/+24If Apple allows apps like Bloomberg, which competes with their Stock app, then why not for some competition with Safari?
- cdawzrd, on 10/31/2008, -2/+21Except in the case of desktop OSs, Windows (and Mac) had a massive head start, making desktop Linux a third contender, however in the mobile market, far more devices run some form of Linux than run Windows Mobile.
- supersteve, on 10/31/2008, -3/+21apple is just being a poor sport
- ispshadow, on 10/31/2008, -1/+19Uhm, a browser isn't supposed to do that. You're making excuses for bad programming.
It wouldn't crash if I didn't go to a page that had lots of pictures.
Browsers, by design, aren't supposed to crash if you push it too hard. That reminds me of another thing that I hear people say, "Oh, sometimes you just need to restart your computer. That will take care of the problem." Computers are NOT supposed to do that and people are letting these software developers off too easy.
We would be freaking out in front of the car companies' headquarters with flames and pitchforks if your car suddenly swerved into oncoming traffic every time you turned on the headlights after adjusting the air conditioning.
Apple, you're ***** up. Big time. If you can't fix the problem, let someone else. Your product is good in some places and in others, it's not. I don't want to see EVERY BOOKMARK FOLDER I've ever made when adding a new one in the desktop version of Safari. I don't want people to see my wheelchair sex/clown porn folder when I'm saving a bookmark to the grape girl video. - hungryfoolish, on 10/31/2008, -1/+19You can find an experimental build of Opera Mini for Android here http://labs.opera.com/downloads/
- CUBSWILLWIN, on 10/31/2008, -7/+24Ahh. Us rebels must unite again. Installer.app FTW!
- waynesutton, on 10/31/2008, -0/+17Just let me know when it shows up in Cydia
- ButlerMonkey, on 10/31/2008, -6/+22So when will Apple become what Microsoft was in the 90's in terms of being labelled and slammed as a monopoly and how well will Google take advantage of this to promote the openness of Android? Does slick marketing and clean product design allow you to get away with these types of actions with consumers?
Just more reason to appreciate jailbreaking. - elmetald00d, on 10/31/2008, -0/+16@Farik
Agreed.
I just wish cydia would pick up the multitasking of installer. I hate waiting for installations on cydia. I like the queueing up I can do on installer. - lemur, on 10/31/2008, -1/+17I have to say that Opera is (and has been for as long as I've ever used it), the absolute best mobile browser that can be had on handhelds. On my trusty Samsung a900, it was the best. On my Treo 900p, it would have been the best if the damned thing would actually run Java mobile (Opera Mini is better than Blazer). On my BlackBerry Pearl, it's the best. No platform's native browser is better than Opera Mini. No DAP's native firmware is better than Rockbox. TRY IT
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