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OpenOffice.org for Mac OS X Released!
porting.openoffice.org — After many many years OpenOffice.org has finally released the first download for Mac OS X that doesn't require X11!! It's just a first release, but go help these guys to test it out today, quash the bugs, and finally bring OpenOffice to OS X!
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- isdereks, on 10/11/2007, -14/+118You can not print...
Copy and paste does not always work...
I know this is a development releases but let's keep this from the general public until it's "ready" (or close to use as a replacement for NeoOffice).- strikezero, on 10/11/2007, -10/+36I waited for years ......
To bad it wont even start up. - wwwdot1jesdotus, on 10/11/2007, -31/+56Although I do not use a mac I'm glad to see OOO gaining momentum. Down with M$ Office!
- DirkVanAss, on 10/11/2007, -8/+82NeoOffice works just fine for me.
- RossTizma, on 10/11/2007, -69/+5iWork is significantly superior to OpenOffice/NeoOffice or actually any other word processing/media development application and it isn't expensive at all. Open source applications are like Africa, cheap and crappy.
- slamtv7, on 10/11/2007, -13/+4The spellcheck stopped working in Open Office for me :( (Windows)
- Gir53457, on 10/11/2007, -20/+98Congratulations OSX users. It is now your problem too.
- ddfall, on 10/11/2007, -9/+101I loved this part:
WARNING: THIS SOFTWARE MAY CRASH AND MAY DESTROY YOUR DATA DO NOT USE THIS SOFTWARE FOR REAL WORK IN A PRODUCTION ENVIRONMENT.
Read: PASS - drakethegreat, on 10/11/2007, -24/+8Now it can join Firefox as another POS memory hog for Mac OS X. People believe it must be good because its OSS but both applications are made by companies that are very good at creating bloated software. I for one have zero interest.
- schoate09, on 10/11/2007, -25/+10The one thing besides games Windows has, the best Office suite there is. Office 2007.
- gotenks05, on 10/13/2008, -0/+0Office 2007 is garbage. They changed the interface way too quickly and when saving a document for Office 2003, it does not even look the same in other word processors.
- Rileyper, on 10/11/2007, -11/+6Crashing Debug Errors, Welcome to Open Source
- davidwasman, on 10/11/2007, -1/+25Let me precursor my statement by saying I'm happy with it and it opens SUPER fast on my Intel machine...however;
What's with it still having Win32 style menus and icons?
Maybe NeoOffice spoiled me.- gotenks05, on 10/13/2008, -0/+0it will take a while to make it look more native, because the first step is to port it, then to change its looks.
- mikesbaker, on 10/11/2007, -15/+6congrats mac users for getting another piece of software that PC users had years and years ago
http://www.packetshaped.com/comics/060619.jpg
/stands in hole waiting to get buried by the mac brigade- gotenks05, on 10/13/2008, -0/+0And it is one of the few that are even decent on Windows.
- stmiller, on 10/11/2007, -7/+4"You can not print...
Copy and paste does not always work...
I know this is a development releases but let's keep this from the general public until it's "ready" (or close to use as a replacement for NeoOffice)."
Wow. And with that, let the negative comments start rolling in. OO.o actually needs as many testers out there as possible to try this out. The more feedback the better. - rasterbator, on 10/11/2007, -5/+6"After many years..."
... it still doesn't work. I have been using NeoOffice for a couple of years now, and I can't understand why OpenOffice would think we need their app. Too Little, MUCH Too Late.
"WARNING: THIS SOFTWARE MAY CRASH AND MAY DESTROY YOUR DATA DO NOT USE THIS SOFTWARE FOR REAL WORK IN A PRODUCTION ENVIRONMENT"
Is a broken Alpha for developers considered a viable story for Digg.com? Marked as inaccurate... - ptFoe, on 10/11/2007, -15/+4Mac users you drop 2 grand on your machines can't you spend another $100 on word, you rich pretentious bastards.
- gotenks05, on 10/13/2008, -0/+0Maybe because the new MS Office is garbage. Sure, Office 2008 did have the same mistake as Office 2007 interface wise. On the other hand, MS does not deserve my money for Vista or Office 2007. At least, Openoffice could export to PDF before Office could on its own.
- spidoman, on 10/11/2007, -10/+10"Although I do not use a mac I'm glad to see OOO gaining momentum. Down with M$ Office!"
Microsoft (it's spelled with an "S" ya pretentious douche) OfficeOffice 2007 has spoiled me. Comparing Office 2007 to any other office software right now is like comparing OS X to Terminal, or Vista to Command Prompt.
First Office Software that I've ever bought, and it was totally worth it. Bash Microsoft all you want but Office 2K7 is incredible. - darkciti, on 10/11/2007, -2/+9@ptfoe:
Sorry, but our requirement isn't cost - it's quality. I'll never use MS Office on my Mac ever again. It's the most unintuitive piece of garbage "shill" software that's ever existed.
Let me reiterate: It's not about money, it's about a standard of quality - one that I'm willing to pay extra for. I use my computer entirely too often to be pissed off at it. - davymac, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3I wish i would have read the first comment and downloaded and started rejoicing... :( I guess i didnt pay attention if it said "alpha" anywhere.. although if i paid attention to the description.. i might have avoided wasting time...
- SVPirate, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1It's progress, it's still an alpha and has more bugs than an ant farm but it *IS* progress. Good to see...
- strikezero, on 10/11/2007, -10/+36I waited for years ......
- adavis23, on 10/11/2007, -10/+37I have been waiting for this version of Open Office for years. I agree that it may be buggy but I plan on trying it out and submitting bug reports to help make this a viable contender to Microsoft Office on the Mac platform.
- gordonm, on 10/11/2007, -41/+16I, on the other hand, would rather just pay money for something that already works.
But I guess that takes all the fun out of it, huh? - Gir53457, on 10/11/2007, -20/+5Paying for software that works? Aren't you the nihilist, Gord?
- kohlmannj, on 10/11/2007, -7/+51You're kidding, right?
http://www.neooffice.org/ - rasterbator, on 10/11/2007, -1/+19A post on Digg.com with the title "OpenOffice.org for Mac OS X Released" should be saved for OpenOffice 1.0 for Macintosh (native and universal). It should NOT be the title for a broken Alpha release for DEVELOPERS ONLY.
- gordonm, on 10/11/2007, -41/+16I, on the other hand, would rather just pay money for something that already works.
- 7of7, on 10/11/2007, -27/+6Creating vortex of suck that may well destroy the world.
- crazybrit, on 10/11/2007, -3/+10Yes, yes you are.
- WiseWeasel, on 10/11/2007, -8/+30Woohooo! I've been waiting for this day for a long time. NeoOffice (Java-based) is just too sluggish in OSX, and MS Office is in need of some serious competition on the Mac as well. While this release of OpenOffice might not be quite ready for primetime yet, it's great to see that we're getting there. Thanks to the developers who have worked hard to bring us Mac users this native version of OpenOffice, and thanks to Sun for committing developers to this effort.
- jonahan52, on 10/11/2007, -6/+7Actually I thought NeoOffice was slower than dog ***** until I got my MBP and tried it again .. Faster than Office now..
- Mejogid, on 10/11/2007, -2/+7That's because office is under Rosetta = slower than dog *****. I generally use pages at the moment, with Office hanging rouind for when i really need compatibility with complex documents & have to work with spreadsheets.
- omega1045, on 10/11/2007, -2/+12NeoOffice (based on OpenOffice) is not that slow for me. I am on a MacBook Core 2 Duo 2 GHz.
- blackjack75, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3It's especially slow to start. Aside from that it's bearable on a macbook pro. This new version does indeed launch much faster.
- TVisdoG, on 10/11/2007, -2/+12"NeoOffice (Java-based) is just too sluggish in OSX"
Well, I guess it's a good thing OpenOffice isn't Java-based! Er... - rasterbator, on 10/11/2007, -2/+5I agree. Pages is cool and a different approach to document creation. I like it a lot.
- JTen, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1I use NeoOffice on an iBook G4 PPC (couple years old) and it works perfectly. The only downside is that it has a reallyyyyy slow startup, but everything else works at full speed (with only 512bomb of ram and a few other apps running simultaneously with it).
- neiltc13, on 10/11/2007, -90/+3Buried as lame since they only offer downloads via BitTorrent. I refuse outright to download via BitTorrent, where are the Usenet posts?
- joshpar, on 10/11/2007, -1/+12Click the first link... that downloads straight fromt he OOo page.
- codyman, on 10/11/2007, -4/+75"I refuse outright to download via BitTorrent"
Yeah cause everything on bittorrent is evil... right, MPAA? - colonelpanic, on 10/11/2007, -3/+58I refuse outright to digg your comment up.
Support the open source software movement with bittorrent, uses less of their bandwidth so they can put more money into development. - trer, on 10/11/2007, -2/+40What's wrong with BitTorrent? Don't associate it with downloading movies and music. Take it for what it really is - an excellent tool for the distribution of open-source software.
- Gir53457, on 10/11/2007, -5/+28What's wrong with BitTorrent? Don't associate it with downloading movies and music. Take it for what it really is - an excellent tool for the distribution of porn. -Fixed.
Check out the history behind it. - msgyrd, on 10/11/2007, -2/+7...because the connotations of usenet are a whole lot better than bittorrent. Right.
However, usenet > bittorrent for most things. - P5ycHo, on 10/11/2007, -3/+6guys.... bittorrent is just too slow when you're used to have 20Mbps.
- SPECOPS, on 10/11/2007, -1/+4Usenet is great, but this torrent is properly seeded, you can get it just as fast. And don't forget to seed when you're done.
- SwabTheDeck, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1@p5ycho
What you said would only make sense if the total bandwidth of the entire rest of the internet was < 20 mbps.
- mmcwhorter, on 10/11/2007, -3/+17Nice start. Not as stable as NeoOffice yet.
- mushroom, on 10/11/2007, -17/+3Wait so your telling me this is the first release of OpenOffice on the Mac platform? isn't OS X base off of BSD? Do they have a unix version of OpenOffice? if so why has it taken them so long to port it over to mac.
- strikezero, on 10/11/2007, -11/+2because they are slow.
- jobias, on 10/11/2007, -1/+18It's the first release of OpenOffice for OS X that does not rely on X11; it's running natively on Aqua. One of the biggest complaints of OO.org on the Mac is that for inexperienced users, the idea of installing an application which seemingly doesn't do anything obvious seems counter-productive and chunky. That's one of the biggest advantages of NeoOffice, although even that isn't completely native, as its UI runs through a Java abstraction. Hopefully once they fix that "will crash upon quitting" bug, this'll begin to pick up steam.
- revolvingcur, on 10/11/2007, -3/+8Threading is broken. I definitely clicked the right reply link.
Oh well, down I go...
- 7of7, on 10/11/2007, -5/+18Could someone revoke the submitter's exclamation point key?
- scheibs14, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2That was a little annoying!!
- frimple, on 10/11/2007, -1/+6At least it didn't come out like this:
"...for Mac OS X that doesn't require X!!1!!"
- MikeZila, on 10/11/2007, -4/+13Bean ftw.
http://www.bean-osx.com/Bean.html- rcfan, on 10/11/2007, -16/+7MS Office ftw! No other app even got close imho, neither on win nor on os x
- slamtv7, on 10/11/2007, -2/+7Wow Bean looks nice. Very simple.
- bearda, on 10/11/2007, -2/+5Looks nice and simple, but functionally quite limited. Pages is a closer alternative for word processing, although it's still a long way off.
- dagnew, on 10/11/2007, -1/+6Bean is a slick-looking text editor. NOT an 'office' app, nor even a word processor.
- avatarpalin, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1Not bad, the kind of WP if you were a writer and needed something simple..
- Sithlrd, on 10/11/2007, -4/+11"Copy and paste does not fully work"
Lack of copy/paste = useless product IMO. But I"m watching closely for the sake of my Mac- arbulus, on 10/11/2007, -7/+1I misread your comment and I thought you said "sake for my Mac" as in Sake the rice wine.
Now I want some sushi :(
- arbulus, on 10/11/2007, -7/+1I misread your comment and I thought you said "sake for my Mac" as in Sake the rice wine.
- Interestingness, on 10/11/2007, -8/+2Awesome, Neo Office wasn't doing it for me, and Google apps is stil really weak. OpenOffice is proven, i just hope that it doesn't crash as some diggers are saying! They will get it right quick I'm sure.
http://ThunkDifferent.com - tehpyro, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2It's nice to see that It's coming over... but what the hell is the difference between sun's open office and sun's neo office? Only big deal for me is that for some reason, spellcheck has never worked on neooffice for me unless the document was made in a different office program first :S
- AK10, on 10/11/2007, -1/+5Neo Office is great but relies on Java so it's not exactly the fastest .app out there. This new OOo version will be OS X native (Cocoa?).
- Terr01, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3I don't think it's the Java per-se that makes it slow, it's the fact that it has to add layers of indirection for compatibility which just happen to be implemented in Java rather than some other language.
- spectre_25gt, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2I doubt you're going to see it written with the cocoa frameworks. That would be a large amount of work being duplicated.
- generalloy, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1"It's nice to see that It's coming over... but what the hell is the difference between sun's open office and sun's neo office? Only big deal for me is that for some reason, spellcheck has never worked on neooffice for me unless the document was made in a different office program first :S"
My spellcheck works fine. Did you install all the dictionaries (go to File->Wizard->Install New Dictionaries) and choose "for the current user".
BTW, it's odd that everyone says NeoOffice is slow. It seems like a normal app to me on a lower spec laptop.
- blackeagle613, on 10/11/2007, -1/+4even though I don't care for osx I am glad for openoffice.org, hopefully this will give them more momentum
- esquire360, on 10/11/2007, -0/+7i've been using neo office i thought it was based on open office
- bearda, on 10/11/2007, -0/+11It's based on it, but NeoOffice uses a Java layer for the interface that's done by a different set of developers. This is the first native version (non-X11) of OpenOffice done by the OpenOffice developers.
- DaleoftheUK, on 10/11/2007, -3/+2"Bean ftw.
http://www.bean-osx.com/Bean.html"
Are you saying...try bean?
Good news (atlast), and I'll use neo office for now, along with bean for quick docs.
I prefer office apps that allow you to use the features. - iheartcrack, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6As a MacBook Pro user running the X11 setup now, this is a welcome step forward. And, yes, I'm installing and will try to use the current Alpha to aid in pushing things along...every bit helps.
- Ramble, on 10/11/2007, -4/+2So a Vista WPF version should be along soon right?
- CaptainNem0, on 10/11/2007, -7/+1unix-based software released on unix-based system!
oh it doesn't work.
love you OOO (seriously) - h0zae, on 10/11/2007, -3/+1are they really incapable of bug testing copy/paste and printing?
- Niten, on 10/11/2007, -0/+7> are they really incapable of bug testing copy/paste and printing?
That's why this "release" (an inaccurate description on the submitter's part, in my opinion) is an _Alpha_. Things aren't expected to work perfectly. This is just to get the ball rolling. - liuping, on 10/11/2007, -3/+2This release is not even close to _ALPHA_. with not copy paste and printing, it is nearly useless for anything other than loading it up and looking at it.
I'm stay8nig with Neooffice for now. but will switch when this is "really" ready for release. - Mejogid, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6Alpha is generally a near-feature complete code base with multiple, potentially show-stopping bugs. I'd say that's exactly what this is.
- Niten, on 10/11/2007, -0/+7> are they really incapable of bug testing copy/paste and printing?
- kohlmannj, on 10/11/2007, -0/+10I'm not holding my breath on this port, that's for sure.
If performance is your primary gripe, it might interest you to know that the NeoOffice team recently replaced OO.o code with some platform-specific code: "Image scaling and drawing speed has been increased and memory usage has been reduced." See this post for more info:
http://trinity.neooffice.org/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=121
The NeoOffice team already has a working product that's well on its way to integrating with Mac OS X far better than the official OO.o port will in the same time period. The NeoOffice team also has a New Features donation program that allows anyone to request a new feature and then donate towards its implementation.
http://www.neooffice.org/neojava/en/featurereqs.php
All this in mind, I'm no dev, but I do know that Apple has depreciated the Cocoa Java bridge as of last year. I'm not sure what that means for the NeoOffice team, but as a few posters noted in the open letter to Jonathan Schwartz ( http://trinity.neooffice.org/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=120 ), these two projects should really try to merge their development efforts.- generalloy, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1"Apple has depreciated the Cocoa Java bridge as of last year."
From what I read, it doesn't matter for NeoOffice because they don't use Cocoa Java anyways (like a lot of other developers)
- generalloy, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1"Apple has depreciated the Cocoa Java bridge as of last year."
- kronzdigg, on 10/11/2007, -1/+5I have been using neooffice for years. It is a great product and I support those guys.
- ElectricSoup, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2"I much prefer MS Office. Fast, efficient and solid. I am much happier paying for a good product than suffering with something simply because it is free. And that is really the only thing that OO has going for it, it is free."
That's not the _only_ thing.
Sure, it's not as polished or (generally) as capable as Microsoft Office, but here's at least one more advantage: oo.org will save into XML-based formats, and those are not vendor-specific, as they are with Office.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenDocument
But I don't curently run it under OS X. I use oo.org on a Linux machine, but I haven't got either Office or oo.org on my Mac.
FWIW, I use Mellel under OS X for wp, and that has some nice touches and a few capabilities you won't find in Word--or anywhere else in a word-processing app. It approaches layout standards:
http://www.redlers.com/mellel.html
- ElectricSoup, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2"I much prefer MS Office. Fast, efficient and solid. I am much happier paying for a good product than suffering with something simply because it is free. And that is really the only thing that OO has going for it, it is free."
- bamaref, on 10/11/2007, -20/+4Congratulations to MAC fans for finally catching up with the rest of us!!
- begbegbegbegbeg, on 10/11/2007, -4/+16It's "Mac", not "MAC."
Damn PC dweebs. - Hellmark, on 10/11/2007, -0/+7MAC is Media Access Control, for networking and such. Big difference.
and OpenOffice has been available for OSX for years, its just that now they're porting it to use Aqua instead of an X server. - smhill, on 10/11/2007, -6/+3Yea! We now can have the same ***** software that Windows have access to!
But seriously, OO blows. It is lame on windows, it is lame on the Mac. (NeoOffice and the X11 are both weak). It is fine under Linux, but you don't have a lot of other options. If you are just dinking around they are fine I guess.
I much prefer MS Office. Fast, efficient and solid. I am much happier paying for a good product than suffering with something simply because it is free. And that is really the only thing that OO has going for it, it is free. - ElectricSoup, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5Quote:
"I much prefer MS Office. Fast, efficient and solid. I am much happier paying for a good product than suffering with something simply because it is free. And that is really the only thing that OO has going for it, it is free."
That's not the _only_ thing.
Sure, it's not as polished or (generally) as capable as Microsoft Office, but here's at least one more advantage: oo.org will save into XML-based formats, and those are not vendor-specific, as they are with Office.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenDocument
But I don't curently run it under OS X. I use oo.org on a Linux machine, but I haven't got either Office or oo.org on my Mac.
FWIW, I use Mellel under OS X for wp, and that has some nice touches and a few capabilities you won't find in Word--or anywhere else in a word-processing app. It approaches layout standards:
http://www.redlers.com/mellel.html - seshat6, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2MAC is "message authentication code" as well, not only medium access control... it becomes confusing if you are working on security for the MAC layer of a MacBook: The MAC for the MAC in my Mac.
- begbegbegbegbeg, on 10/11/2007, -4/+16It's "Mac", not "MAC."
- EEdesigner, on 10/11/2007, -5/+4Keep on truckin'! My wife (an ex-Microsoft guru programmer and thorough disrespector of all that they produce) and I have almost completed our home transition to a Microsoft-free environement (Linux and Apple). Once this thing works on the Mac, we can finish our association with the dark (primative, and altogether awful) side of software.
- Hellmark, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3OpenOffice already works fine on OSX. It is just the stable releases use X11 as its windowing method instead of native Aqua.
- flamebot, on 10/11/2007, -1/+10open office is like office 97... ei but it´s free
- avatarpalin, on 10/11/2007, -0/+7which still has enough features to support 80% of the worlds needs..
- avatarpalin, on 10/11/2007, -0/+7which still has enough features to support 80% of the worlds needs..
- DocDEB, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3It is good to see Open Office grow a more Mac-like face, but this is alpha software with many many "doesn't work yets." I'll pass till at least beta 2 and keep using Open Office in X11.
- ilgaz, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Well, gives a glimpse of what would be around in 5-6 months of time. I am really impressed, while I don't "hate" Apple X11 and think it is part of the OS we pay for, I decided this title really needed OS native controls.
These commenters have no clue about how hard to make Sun Microsystems to spare time/work on a OS X or any OS end user application. They should thank them. If not? Well plain rude,nothing else.
For Print, I'd abuse export to PDF and use Acrobat Reader 8.1/Preview to print files. :)
- ilgaz, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Well, gives a glimpse of what would be around in 5-6 months of time. I am really impressed, while I don't "hate" Apple X11 and think it is part of the OS we pay for, I decided this title really needed OS native controls.
- serpicolugnut, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3I applaud the effort guys. Keep up the hard work. However, the current release has many, many problems. I'm sure you guys will work through them and have quality product before too long.
Until then, NeoOffice is free, works great, and opens all the same files as Oo. And the funny thing is, currently, NeoOffice feels more like a native Mac app than the supposed "Cocoa" port of OpenOffice.
Still, I love competition. Keep up the great work guys!- ilgaz, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Neoffice guys should really explain that Neoffice is not just Openoffice packaged in Java. It has some really cool additional features and bugfixes.
- ilgaz, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Neoffice guys should really explain that Neoffice is not just Openoffice packaged in Java. It has some really cool additional features and bugfixes.
- K3ITHK, on 10/11/2007, -2/+7This is worse than reading youtube comments.
- NewChar, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3wutever
- FenrisUlf, on 10/11/2007, -1/+0faaake
- DanMarkBen, on 10/11/2007, -4/+10Eh, I'll wait for Office 2008
- scabbers, on 10/11/2007, -4/+2If you can afford locked-in hardware and proprietary operating systems, you can afford a proper word processor.
- CyberDesyner, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1No problem with it opening here but almost nothing else works.
btw NeoOffice isn't your only alternative on the Mac. If you know how to use the FINK package manager-just install KDE/koffice or Gnome/Gnome Office. Works great for me though I still prefer not having to fire up a separate Desktop Environment and Windowing system if it can be avoided. This version of OOo will be perfectly suitable as a replacement to NeoOffice just not while it's in alpha or early beta dev stages. - elpepe, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4MS office for mac is actually a really great application and I hate MS as much as the next guy
- stalky14, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1It might be good, but if you're the kind of person that only needs an office app a few times a year, dropping $300 on MS-Office isn't all that appealing.
- stalky14, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1It might be good, but if you're the kind of person that only needs an office app a few times a year, dropping $300 on MS-Office isn't all that appealing.
- SweetMercury, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5Why is everyone bitching about this "release?"
The only thing really inaccurate is the title of the Digg submission. This isn't a "release," it's an alpha, strictly for users who wish to help out with the project.- qishi, on 10/11/2007, -1/+4You must be new here.
- scabbers, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2What you should be asking is why the ***** is an alpha release on the front page of digg? Oh wait, let's see....
mac + open office = instadig from the drones - SweetMercury, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3@Qishi:
I've been here for quite a while. I'm still, on occasion, unwilling to settle for Digg users showing such complete stupidity.
@Scabbers:
In defense of the drones, the title is inaccurate, and it does say "release" when it's nothing of the sort. So, when you click on the article, and one of the first things you see is bold red lettering warning that using the software could break your system, there is at least SOME fodder for jokes. Still, aren't we all tech junkies? Shouldn't most of the people know that an Alpha isn't a release at all?
- specialK16, on 10/11/2007, -2/+1Lol, this sucks.
- weiran, on 10/11/2007, -2/+1Buried as lame.
- mudface, on 10/11/2007, -3/+1Doesn't require X11? Why does X11 fire up when I run OpenOffice then?
- JasonCox, on 10/11/2007, -4/+1Oh come on, we dont even use that crap on Windows, even Mac users arent that stupid.
- sethdotcom, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1Thank god I hate Neo office it was slow.......
to bad open office is in development still, i will just stick with Microsoft office for now, on the mac sides of things - alpharuin, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2All these apps will be obsolete when Google Docs gets more features.
- ilgaz, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Yes, it will be great when Google docs decides "We will keep all your files and analyze them to show relevant ads".
Bookmark this comment for a year later, you will see it happens.
Google Docs doesn't even give a heck to your operating systems default browser (Safari), why advertise them for free?
- ilgaz, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Yes, it will be great when Google docs decides "We will keep all your files and analyze them to show relevant ads".
- macaholic, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Steps to Install OpenOffice.org on a Mac
* Install X11
* Download OpenOffice.org
* Install OpenOffice.org
ummmmmm x11?
"After many many years OpenOffice.org has finally released the first download for Mac OS X that doesn't require X11!!"
sure watever u say... - Rice, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1When is MS Office 2008 coming?
- retrofitme, on 10/11/2007, -0/+0The new version of NeoOffice (2.1) fixed a lot of the sluggishness that plagued earlier versions. MS office on the PC preloads a bunch of stuff at boot time to make it seem more responsive on startup.
- rova, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Open source software isn't necessarily bad, some of it is fantastic. For the most part however it is just a ripoff of popular commerical products. Kind of like a Folex watch.
- rova, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Its not that Mac users wont pay for software - its that Mac users don't like spending $100 on a second rate piece of software for a beautiful $2k machine. Hopefully the new version of Office will fix this up.
- Gir53457, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2The 10 phases of the average first time mac buyer:
1. "I don't like it."
2. "I'm not sure."
3. "It looks cool"
4. "It's not that hard."
5. "I like it."
6. "Holy *****! That much!?"
7. "But it's worth it you say?"
8. "I have to buy new software?"
9. "My work uses Word."
10. "I can get Office for mac!?"
Sold.
Edit: Office for Mac is great. I'd buy it if I didn't get it for free (Free, not pirated.).
- Gir53457, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2The 10 phases of the average first time mac buyer:
- moosepile, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1I'm looking forward to this upon stable release, but what a misleading title.
I implement NeoOffice and am pretty happy with it.
In heavy use environments I like to toss in ThinkFree Office (Desktop edition). $50-ish bucks, worth every penny when you compare it to MS Office.- ErBiC, on 10/11/2007, -1/+0Yep. Nice to have OO.O with an Aqua interface, but the missing bits and instabilities aren't particularly attractive.
I'll keep using NeoOffice for the forseeable future. Excellent front-end to OO.O, and works great
IMO, Office for Mac is better than them all... but it costs money, which I don't have much of right now.
- ErBiC, on 10/11/2007, -1/+0Yep. Nice to have OO.O with an Aqua interface, but the missing bits and instabilities aren't particularly attractive.
- acebrickman, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Ya know what guys & gals, welcome to the alpha world of the Open Source universe. Yes, the product is priced at free99. The hidden cost however is that when (not if) your application crashes, you are somewhat expected to type out a short answer as to what you were doing when the app crashed.
Much kudos to the OO.o team. Guess they were tired of folks begging for an Cocoa port. Pretty much the same feelings as serpicolugnut above. - zmigliozzi, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Of course NeoOffice works, it runs in the java environment.
I'm glad Oo finally got a non X based release out for MAC, congrats to that. - reverb, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1"[Known issues:] OpenOffice.org will crash after quitting"
Uh, yeah. This is an alpha release. Let's not get excited until it goes final, okay? - neutrino15, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Text Edit
Emacs
Vi - matdevdug, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1My favorite part has to be when it deleted the file I was working on and then shut down.
- crazybrit, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1lol, serves you right. Did you read the warning in RED CAPS?
- mendezbeck, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1They could've help back on the "The Best Office Suite for you Mac" slogan, at least until they get the big red "WARNING: THIS SOFTWARE MAY CRASH AND MAY DESTROY YOUR DATA DO NOT USE THIS SOFTWARE FOR REAL WORK IN A PRODUCTION ENVIRONMENT" disclaimer off.
But hey, props to them for putting this out. -
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