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- isdereks, on 10/11/2007, -14/+118You can not print...
Copy and paste does not always work...
I know this is a development releases but let's keep this from the general public until it's "ready" (or close to use as a replacement for NeoOffice). - ddfall, on 10/11/2007, -9/+100I loved this part:
WARNING: THIS SOFTWARE MAY CRASH AND MAY DESTROY YOUR DATA DO NOT USE THIS SOFTWARE FOR REAL WORK IN A PRODUCTION ENVIRONMENT.
Read: PASS - Gir53457, on 10/11/2007, -19/+98Congratulations OSX users. It is now your problem too.
- DirkVanAss, on 10/11/2007, -7/+82NeoOffice works just fine for me.
- codyman, on 10/11/2007, -4/+75"I refuse outright to download via BitTorrent"
Yeah cause everything on bittorrent is evil... right, MPAA? - colonelpanic, on 10/11/2007, -3/+58I refuse outright to digg your comment up.
Support the open source software movement with bittorrent, uses less of their bandwidth so they can put more money into development. - kohlmannj, on 10/11/2007, -6/+51You're kidding, right?
http://www.neooffice.org/ - trer, on 10/11/2007, -2/+40What's wrong with BitTorrent? Don't associate it with downloading movies and music. Take it for what it really is - an excellent tool for the distribution of open-source software.
- mlw4428, on 10/11/2007, -3/+36It's a "development" release. They want people to bug test it.
- adavis23, on 10/11/2007, -10/+36I have been waiting for this version of Open Office for years. I agree that it may be buggy but I plan on trying it out and submitting bug reports to help make this a viable contender to Microsoft Office on the Mac platform.
- strikezero, on 10/11/2007, -10/+35I waited for years ......
To bad it wont even start up. - davidwasman, on 10/11/2007, -1/+25Let me precursor my statement by saying I'm happy with it and it opens SUPER fast on my Intel machine...however;
What's with it still having Win32 style menus and icons?
Maybe NeoOffice spoiled me. - wwwdot1jesdotus, on 10/11/2007, -31/+55Although I do not use a mac I'm glad to see OOO gaining momentum. Down with M$ Office!
- Gir53457, on 10/11/2007, -5/+28What's wrong with BitTorrent? Don't associate it with downloading movies and music. Take it for what it really is - an excellent tool for the distribution of porn. -Fixed.
Check out the history behind it. - WiseWeasel, on 10/11/2007, -8/+30Woohooo! I've been waiting for this day for a long time. NeoOffice (Java-based) is just too sluggish in OSX, and MS Office is in need of some serious competition on the Mac as well. While this release of OpenOffice might not be quite ready for primetime yet, it's great to see that we're getting there. Thanks to the developers who have worked hard to bring us Mac users this native version of OpenOffice, and thanks to Sun for committing developers to this effort.
- rasterbator, on 10/11/2007, -1/+19A post on Digg.com with the title "OpenOffice.org for Mac OS X Released" should be saved for OpenOffice 1.0 for Macintosh (native and universal). It should NOT be the title for a broken Alpha release for DEVELOPERS ONLY.
- jobias, on 10/11/2007, -1/+18It's the first release of OpenOffice for OS X that does not rely on X11; it's running natively on Aqua. One of the biggest complaints of OO.org on the Mac is that for inexperienced users, the idea of installing an application which seemingly doesn't do anything obvious seems counter-productive and chunky. That's one of the biggest advantages of NeoOffice, although even that isn't completely native, as its UI runs through a Java abstraction. Hopefully once they fix that "will crash upon quitting" bug, this'll begin to pick up steam.
- mmcwhorter, on 10/11/2007, -3/+17Nice start. Not as stable as NeoOffice yet.
- 7of7, on 10/11/2007, -5/+18Could someone revoke the submitter's exclamation point key?
- begbegbegbegbeg, on 10/11/2007, -4/+16It's "Mac", not "MAC."
Damn PC dweebs. - bearda, on 10/11/2007, -0/+11It's based on it, but NeoOffice uses a Java layer for the interface that's done by a different set of developers. This is the first native version (non-X11) of OpenOffice done by the OpenOffice developers.
- joshpar, on 10/11/2007, -1/+12Click the first link... that downloads straight fromt he OOo page.
- omega1045, on 10/11/2007, -2/+12NeoOffice (based on OpenOffice) is not that slow for me. I am on a MacBook Core 2 Duo 2 GHz.
- kohlmannj, on 10/11/2007, -0/+10I'm not holding my breath on this port, that's for sure.
If performance is your primary gripe, it might interest you to know that the NeoOffice team recently replaced OO.o code with some platform-specific code: "Image scaling and drawing speed has been increased and memory usage has been reduced." See this post for more info:
http://trinity.neooffice.org/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=121
The NeoOffice team already has a working product that's well on its way to integrating with Mac OS X far better than the official OO.o port will in the same time period. The NeoOffice team also has a New Features donation program that allows anyone to request a new feature and then donate towards its implementation.
http://www.neooffice.org/neojava/en/featurereqs.php
All this in mind, I'm no dev, but I do know that Apple has depreciated the Cocoa Java bridge as of last year. I'm not sure what that means for the NeoOffice team, but as a few posters noted in the open letter to Jonathan Schwartz ( http://trinity.neooffice.org/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=120 ), these two projects should really try to merge their development efforts. - TVisdoG, on 10/11/2007, -2/+12"NeoOffice (Java-based) is just too sluggish in OSX"
Well, I guess it's a good thing OpenOffice isn't Java-based! Er... - MikeZila, on 10/11/2007, -4/+13Bean ftw.
http://www.bean-osx.com/Bean.html - inactive, on 10/11/2007, -1/+10open office is like office 97... ei but it´s free
- Hellmark, on 10/11/2007, -0/+7MAC is Media Access Control, for networking and such. Big difference.
and OpenOffice has been available for OSX for years, its just that now they're porting it to use Aqua instead of an X server. - Sithlrd, on 10/11/2007, -4/+11"Copy and paste does not fully work"
Lack of copy/paste = useless product IMO. But I"m watching closely for the sake of my Mac - Niten, on 10/11/2007, -0/+7> are they really incapable of bug testing copy/paste and printing?
That's why this "release" (an inaccurate description on the submitter's part, in my opinion) is an _Alpha_. Things aren't expected to work perfectly. This is just to get the ball rolling. - avatarpalin, on 10/11/2007, -0/+7which still has enough features to support 80% of the worlds needs..
- crazybrit, on 10/11/2007, -3/+10Yes, yes you are.
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -2/+9@ptfoe:
Sorry, but our requirement isn't cost - it's quality. I'll never use MS Office on my Mac ever again. It's the most unintuitive piece of garbage "shill" software that's ever existed.
Let me reiterate: It's not about money, it's about a standard of quality - one that I'm willing to pay extra for. I use my computer entirely too often to be pissed off at it. - esquire360, on 10/11/2007, -0/+7i've been using neo office i thought it was based on open office
- aaronm67, on 10/11/2007, -4/+10It's pretty tough to test something for bugs if it wont start, other then the obvious bug of it not starting.
- DanMarkBen, on 10/11/2007, -4/+10Eh, I'll wait for Office 2008
- Mejogid, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6Alpha is generally a near-feature complete code base with multiple, potentially show-stopping bugs. I'd say that's exactly what this is.
- ricksite, on 10/11/2007, -4/+10Am I the only want taking mcatrage's comment as a joke?
- iheartcrack, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6As a MacBook Pro user running the X11 setup now, this is a welcome step forward. And, yes, I'm installing and will try to use the current Alpha to aid in pushing things along...every bit helps.
- dagnew, on 10/11/2007, -1/+6Bean is a slick-looking text editor. NOT an 'office' app, nor even a word processor.
- K3ITHK, on 10/11/2007, -2/+7This is worse than reading youtube comments.
- revolvingcur, on 10/11/2007, -3/+8Threading is broken. I definitely clicked the right reply link.
Oh well, down I go... - slamtv7, on 10/11/2007, -2/+7Wow Bean looks nice. Very simple.
- ElectricSoup, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5Quote:
"I much prefer MS Office. Fast, efficient and solid. I am much happier paying for a good product than suffering with something simply because it is free. And that is really the only thing that OO has going for it, it is free."
That's not the _only_ thing.
Sure, it's not as polished or (generally) as capable as Microsoft Office, but here's at least one more advantage: oo.org will save into XML-based formats, and those are not vendor-specific, as they are with Office.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenDocument
But I don't curently run it under OS X. I use oo.org on a Linux machine, but I haven't got either Office or oo.org on my Mac.
FWIW, I use Mellel under OS X for wp, and that has some nice touches and a few capabilities you won't find in Word--or anywhere else in a word-processing app. It approaches layout standards:
http://www.redlers.com/mellel.html - frimple, on 10/11/2007, -1/+6At least it didn't come out like this:
"...for Mac OS X that doesn't require X!!1!!" - Mejogid, on 10/11/2007, -2/+7That's because office is under Rosetta = slower than dog *****. I generally use pages at the moment, with Office hanging rouind for when i really need compatibility with complex documents & have to work with spreadsheets.
- SweetMercury, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5Why is everyone bitching about this "release?"
The only thing really inaccurate is the title of the Digg submission. This isn't a "release," it's an alpha, strictly for users who wish to help out with the project. - msgyrd, on 10/11/2007, -2/+7...because the connotations of usenet are a whole lot better than bittorrent. Right.
However, usenet > bittorrent for most things. - AK10, on 10/11/2007, -1/+5Neo Office is great but relies on Java so it's not exactly the fastest .app out there. This new OOo version will be OS X native (Cocoa?).
- elpepe, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4MS office for mac is actually a really great application and I hate MS as much as the next guy
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