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- timdorr, on 04/14/2008, -6/+589Apple Lawyerbots: Activate!
- aristicero, on 04/14/2008, -10/+238Apple's not going to let this slide. But maybe they will finally get the clue that consumers are looking for a mid-range Mac Pro that's affordable and customizable.
- Diggtatorship, on 04/14/2008, -54/+243The base price on the OpenMac is $400 + Leapord installed $155 = 555 (already in mac mini territory)
Then add:
Firewire - $16
USB Remote - $30
Wireless Card - $15
Bluetooth Adapter - $10
iLife '08 - $74.00
Now you're right back at $700 so it's a toss up with the mini.
Apple isn't gouging as badly as you may think. Either way, the OpenMac wins if you want to skip out on some of the extras that come standard with the mini. It also wins in the upgradability/flexibilty department. The mini is smaller and sleeker, so that counts for something. - jasegruver, on 04/14/2008, -9/+170I know that Apple is going to squash this little product and probably take the company down with it, but it's an AWESOME idea. This company has guts to put this out on the web and I respect the Hell out of them for that. Get them while you can.
- smashingmonkey, on 04/14/2008, -4/+150Case Color: Black (+$0.00) - take THAT Apple!!
- petesdigz, on 04/14/2008, -8/+103as a happy hackintosh user and mac owner, i think this is a bad thing, commercialising hackintosh will make apple see hackintosh as a threat rather than an annoyance, and respond by tightening up their security to the detriment of all hackitosh users.
- zedebsky, on 04/14/2008, -4/+97Affordable and customizable are not ideals that have ever been embraced by Apple- or ever will be. They know exactly what people want but know they will pay a premium so they too can be unique.
- dawnraid101, on 04/14/2008, -8/+97I smell a lawsuit
- dmightx, on 09/21/2008, -9/+67At least we'd have the option to choose not to include those items at our expense.
- CarzorStelatis, on 04/14/2008, -2/+52Yeah, that's right. Be a nonconformist, just like everybody else.
- migitalwarfare, on 04/14/2008, -6/+50man, it must be tricky to find a work around for all those custom mac parts that apple uses to build their towers
- migitalwarfare, on 04/14/2008, -3/+47sarcasm... look into it
- AgentBuckwald, on 04/14/2008, -6/+49This is only happening because Apple won't release an affordable and upgradable tower. Hopefully this catches on so Apple has to do this themselves.
- inactive, on 04/14/2008, -18/+59bleh! not if you pirate ilife and leapord! ARRR MATEY!
- acidandspatter, on 04/14/2008, -2/+40Hmm it's a shame they've already gone ahead and called it 'Open Mac' or whatever. Rather than openly say it on your website that it's "theoretically" Leopard compatible or whatever, I'd personally have just released the system, and promoted the Leopard compatible status on a Hackintosh forum as some anonymous user or at least in a viral/word of mouth way so that there isn't anything too solid for the Apple Legal team to get you on. That way Apple can't get them for selling a setup that just happens to be Leopard compatible.
- Diggtatorship, on 04/14/2008, -5/+34I did use cheaper alternatives. I tried to find the cheapest prices on everything I listed there.
- Culyt, on 04/14/2008, -7/+34Or don't add all that crap. Not everyone needs so many ways to transfer data.
- Spuy767, on 04/14/2008, -3/+30It was nice knowing you "OpenMac."
- Auzy, on 04/14/2008, -8/+35At least you can use a proper video card though. You cant upgrade the video card on the iMacs, so I'd rather get one of these then a imac actually
- kcdstudios, on 04/14/2008, -2/+28more like follows with a lawsuit
- MacParrot, on 04/14/2008, -2/+27Hey! Good for you! Now wtf does that have to do with the article?
- bjornski, on 04/14/2008, -9/+34Microsoft lets you run their OS on any hardware you want.
Let's see if Apple follows suit. - mesasone, on 04/14/2008, -4/+27The Mac Pros are workstations and priced competitively with similar Dell offerings. What they need to offer is a consumer class headless mac with a pair of expansion slots. Alternatively, Apple could really innovate and somehow turn the iMac into a modular offering which you could (easily) upgrade to a new processor or video card.
I think there was a prototype for something somewhat similar, where the different components were in their own separate enclosure and snapped together. I'm not exactly sure how the system bus would perform in a system like that, but if they could squeeze decent performance out of it and implement it in the iMac, they would have a winner. - mail4asim, on 04/14/2008, -2/+24Wait a couple of weeks and we'll all find out if it's any good.
- bjornski, on 04/14/2008, -7/+26"The market" is speaking. It's up to Apple to either listen, or get bitten in the ass by it.
- schoate09, on 04/14/2008, -1/+20Thanks to the new EFI emulator, all you have to do is download the update file, run a script in the background to maintain your "AppleIntelCPUPowerManagement.kext" and install. When the install terminates, terminate the script. Now you're updated. (I did that going from 10.5.1 to 10.5.2).
- EtherGnat, on 04/14/2008, -3/+21"Wow. $400 for a unit that's equivalent to a $500 Mac Mini"
Yeah, except it has a processor that scores 19% faster on the PassMark CPU benchmark (E4500 @ 1157 vs. T5600 @ 973), twice the RAM, a hard drive that's 50% larger and substantially faster (7200 RPM vs 4200 RPM), a DVD burner vs. a combo drive, and the ability to add a dedicated video card and other upgraded components.
But they're both white, so I guess you're right when you say they're equivalent. - CrankyHippo, on 04/14/2008, -5/+23And you'd be the guy who bought a mac thinking it would make you "cool"
- estvir, on 04/14/2008, -10/+27Yes, quite unique with a white, glossy case that millions of others have with few different configurations. If you want to have a 'unique' computer, go choose your own case and build a PC, than you'll actually be unique.
It's a shame Apple does this. Oh well, no big loss, at all. - idntunknwn, on 04/14/2008, -3/+20I actually don't see how that was a helpful response. I've looked at those pages and I don't see any indication that it's better or easier than before. Maybe a non-RTFM-type response would have been more appropriate.
- larsalan, on 04/14/2008, -10/+27http://www.insanelymac.com/
http://wiki.osx86project.org/wiki/index.php/Main_P ...
http://hackintosh.org/
get back to us :) - cbeach, on 04/14/2008, -16/+32The big win with Apple hardware is that it's a standardised platform that is guaranteed to work with the software.
I used to fiddle with PC components and build my own machines. Then I got to the stage where:
a) I no longer was interested in gaming, hence didn't need to upgrade my gfx card every six months
b) I discovered that the Mac platform is every bit as capable as Windows, and surprisingly compatible
c) I no longer needed to upgrade my hard disk every six months because the software on a Mac is less bloated
d) I actually saved money buying a Mac, because with the various discounts (student, higher eduction -17.5%!- or corporate discount), Mac's are cheaper than PCs, like-for-like
e) When I wanted to upgrade my CPU (every couple of years or so), I generally wanted to upgrade the other components too, hence buying a new Mac and selling the old one was highly viable. Macs hold their value much better than hotch-potch upgraded PCs - colonelxc, on 04/14/2008, -2/+18So the prices may end up the same as the mac mini, but how do the 2 computers compare? Faster processor than even the 'higher' end mini, twice the stock memory (which apple would gouge you for), and more hard drive space. So for the "same price" you get better machine, even if you don't take advantage of the upgrade possibilities.
- inactive, on 04/14/2008, -2/+18You are wrong.
It's pre installed with all new macs, but if you buy leopard that's all you get. You have to buy iLife separately. - mCanada, on 04/14/2008, -4/+19are hackintosh's still hard to update? what are the biggest "glitches"? Is it wise to use them for your main system? Or have they improved over the past year?
- chillypacman, on 04/14/2008, -20/+34Open mac > all other macs.
- griz, on 04/14/2008, -2/+16That's just the smoke coming from Steve's ears.
- schoate09, on 04/14/2008, -4/+18Bluetooth you can keep, and I don't need a wireless card in my desktop. This is what Apple's line really lacks, customization. If I don't need these features, I won't HAVE to pay extra to get them installed in my machine.
- aliguana, on 04/14/2008, -4/+17ultimately "Mac" is irrelevant. Its OSX that people want and use, regardless of hardware.
- RizenBB, on 04/14/2008, -2/+15But is it really piracy if you pay for it? /shrug
- bullhead2007, on 04/14/2008, -4/+17This is exactly how the PC market got started. People made IBM clones that were cheaper. I don't think Apple can do anything now to prevent generic mac compatible computers. This is a good thing.
- schoate09, on 04/14/2008, -7/+20When Apple offers a tower that's similarly priced to the $400-$600 gateways I buy every other year. (Remember, every other year buying lower end keeps you up in the top in performance longer than buying high end every 4 years), where I can swap in and out a few components, I'm sold. Not so much the components, but I want full desktop performance, not a mini with a laptop drive, or an iMac with a built in monitor, no, I want to use my monitor, have a full Intel desktop processor, a regular graphics card, and pay less than $1000. If the PC market can deliver, Apple CAN.
Till then, OSx86 is running great on my Gateway. - marty0577, on 04/14/2008, -5/+17This is going to piss a lot of mac purists off, very quickly.
- Stevo23, on 04/14/2008, -9/+21Diggers and cognitive dissonance... Apple can do no wrong, but, open hardware...good...but Apple, bad? NO!
- CressCrowbits, on 04/14/2008, -3/+15Buried for making a ***** car analogy.
- TheFinaleofSeem, on 04/14/2008, -3/+15Oh no, they'll win easily. Why? Because OpenMac is offering Leopard PREINSTALLED, which is a direct violation of the EULA and they know it. If they just sold this with no OS and said that you can put the hacked Leopard on it, but they do not endorse such activity, then they might have a chance. They have seriously ***** themselves on this.
- coolbru, on 04/14/2008, -1/+12Leopard doesn't include iLife. iLife is pre-installed on new Macs. There is a difference.
- MacParrot, on 04/14/2008, -2/+13Microsoft doesn't make computers so why would they?
- TheFinaleofSeem, on 04/14/2008, -2/+13Plenty of cards work out of the box, numbnuts. Check osx86project and you'll see that.
- aaroninflash, on 04/14/2008, -2/+13Apple needs to lower their prices... especially their LCDs - so out of date!
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