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- Superperson, on 02/02/2009, -7/+112Hooray for robbing developers who most likely won't be able to continue making great apps because they're not breaking even!
- durjoy, on 02/01/2009, -7/+94I'm not sure that this is a good thing for the ecosystem.
- piratebr0adcast, on 02/01/2009, -19/+97This sucks balls. (And BTW I am a developer too)
- missingdigits, on 02/02/2009, -8/+75Sorry but most apps are already free or VERY cheap. Many have "Lite' versions. Honestly, this is just theft plain and simple. No ***** the RIAA here. You are just hurting developers. Do it if you want, but don't celebrate how you are taking it to the man. You're just a cheap-ass punk thief.
- inactive, on 02/01/2009, -4/+62I'm a developer, and btw I'm a developer.
- Sererena, on 02/01/2009, -5/+56I'm a developer as well but I can't say I share your optimism. =/
- JonTheGoose, on 02/02/2009, -13/+60Yea, I'd hate to see the guy who wrote iFart go hungry.
- Rjordan, on 02/02/2009, -3/+49DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS! DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS! DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS! DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS! DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS! DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS! DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS! DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS! DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS! DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS! DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS! DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS! DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS! DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS!
- joshuaer, on 02/02/2009, -4/+42I love how a guy who is writing software to crack and steal software got pissed off when some one took his software.
" Oh the iRoning is delicious" - robrohan, on 02/02/2009, -1/+35Oh thank goodness. Now you wont have to shell out that bank breaking $2.99 to get that app some poor developer spent his weekends building.
I don't agree with but I can see the justification in stealing say, Adobe Create Suite (which is like $700.00 or something) - but come on, the most expensive (real) iphone app I've see was like 15 bucks.
What's the point of even writing software anymore?
Eh, I am just yelling at a wall. - wastern, on 02/02/2009, -1/+30I'm not a developer, but I think a better option is a free version of the app vs making the community take things into their own hands
It would be nice if Apple would build in some sort of trial basis. Download something for free, you have 7 days with it. Upon launch after 7 days you're asked to either enter your iTunes password to buy, or it deletes the trial app.
That way you don't pollute the store with full and lite versions of everything, its less work the the devs, people don't need to crack and hack to try stuff out, and they don't feel cheated if they pay $10 for an app that turns out to be something they only open twice - inactive, on 02/02/2009, -5/+32I love the hypocrisy on Digg. People here are all for pirating movies and songs, but when it comes to poor Apple and their developers, you are a bad bad person.
Practice what you preach. - impresently, on 02/02/2009, -3/+29Most of the apps for the iPhone are rediculously cheap.
There is no reason for this. - inactive, on 02/02/2009, -1/+27"... to enable people to share them with their friends."
What a load of crap. It's to enable scoundrels to make illegal copies of copyrighted software. Putting a happy face on the criminal act is not only disingenuous, it's absolutely transparent.
If you want to know why the store is overrun with fart apps, it's because no sane developer is going to invest 1000 hours into a decent application only to watch these two-bit thieves make copies of it for free.
Instead we have a race to the bottom, thanks to ***** like Crackulous.
I have a number of apps on the store. I've invested several 100 combined hours into their development. Just recently I released "updates" but all the update did was dial-home so I could count the number of unique users. It turns out my applications are being pirated 5:1. I'd never made my money back on the development costs and now I know why; the majority of my "users" never paid for the app.
I won't be writing any more applications. Unless they're 99c fart apps, because apparently that's where the money is, or applications tied to a subscription based Internet service.
Thanks a lot, thieves. - alansky, on 02/02/2009, -2/+25So not only are the whiners complaining that any app costing more than $1.99 is "too expensive"... Now they want all iPhone apps to be free??? What planet do these people come from???
- meepus, on 02/02/2009, -1/+23People say Apple will be upset by this, but what this really does is takes power out of the hands of small independent developers. When you're looking at apps that cost $1 or $2, cracking them (even just to try them) is hardly justifiable in the same way that it is with downloading music or full-price retail software.
- LiquidSpark, on 02/01/2009, -0/+21It's on Cydia for jailbroken iPhones.
- Echomote, on 02/02/2009, -2/+22Now apple are just going to update the DRM...
- EricZBA, on 02/01/2009, -2/+22First rule of Usenet - YOU DO NOT TALK ABOUT USENET
- thedragon4453, on 02/02/2009, -3/+23Personally, I don't like this. I am not a developer, but I think this is a pretty ***** thing to do for several reasons.
Most apps on the app store range from free to $5. If you can't afford to pay for a $.99 app, or don't want to pony up before you "try" it, how did you afford an iPhone to begin with?
I don't know about the rest of you, but I very rarely pay for regular apps once I've "tried" them. It usually has to be something I use on a daily basis or is in some way profoundly awesome. Of course, I don't delude myself by saying "I'm only doing this to try out the app."
You aren't sticking it to the man. A lot of the apps on the app store are developed by small companies and one man outfits. If you take away there income, I think its more likely they stop developing rather than pouring tons of energy into DRM.
Apple definitely left a hole with no "try before you buy" feature, but I hardly think that is justification when the top price tier is $10 (yes, I know some are more, but that can't be even 5%). - dhmlco, on 02/02/2009, -0/+20"...so that they can share them with their friends..."
Yeah, all 10,000 of them. Jerks. - teh_techie, on 02/02/2009, -0/+19It's nice to see so far, that a majority of people posting have some morals. Unless the immoral people are just too busy now stealing apps to post anything...
- wastern, on 02/02/2009, -3/+22I want to see more high quality apps. The flood of 99 cent apps is already deterring a lot of good devs. If this becomes the standard I see even less looking to the platform
I don't mind paying for quality, especially if it encourages the dev to release continued updates and improve that app, this adding even more value to my purchase - ricperry1, on 02/02/2009, -5/+21I think this is a bad idea for the masses to get a hold of this ability. Developers should be able to rely on the protection they are signing up for when they release an app through Apples App Store. If the developers wanted to release their product for free, they have the Cydia community where they can release any sorts of time limited or ad supported, or even totally free versions they want. But since this outlet is available for those developers who want to participate in the community in that way, it is immoral for the general community to steal the hard work of those developers choosing not to participate in the Cydia community.
- thecompkid, on 02/02/2009, -1/+15As someone who is fully invested in the jailbreak scene, I would fully support Apple if they decided to brick peoples iPhone's for using this app.
There is absolutely no justification for stealing a program that costs a couple of dollars, and this app furthers the stereotype that jailbreaking is illegal/immoral. It's ridiculous, and I hope this guy gets sued. - Radan, on 02/02/2009, -3/+17While I agree that iFart is completely pointless and waste of bandwidth, that is still not reason enough to directly steal it (and similar apps) from the developer.
And who should really be the one to declare whether an app is worthless or not?
Stealing €1 apps from independent developers is just morally wrong in so many ways. - inactive, on 02/02/2009, -1/+15It's not share, its stealing. This is pure evil, why does anyone think this is good. Your not screwing Apple but one man shows who are trying to make a living. I hope the cracker rots in hell.
- PottSie2, on 02/02/2009, -1/+14What a crock. How is 99c a 'ridiculous amount of money' to download a single that probably cost a few hundred thousand to write, sing, distribute, market and record (including music video) and that you will get hours of listening pleasure out of ?
How is $14 (Australia, not sure about America) expensive to go see a movie that cost tens of millions of dollars to make, in an air-conditioned, ear thumping, big-screen environment, a 'ridiculous amount of money' ? How is paying approx $20 (AUD) a 'ridiculous amount of money' for a DVD copy of said movie ?
Hypocrite, plain and simple ... but keep trying to justify your excuses .. I'm sure you really do believe them. - joshuaer, on 02/02/2009, -0/+12It started off by justifying stealing by saying well it is a big company but i would support the artist.
Now every one just feel like they should never have to pay for any thing that is digital. - antechinus, on 02/02/2009, -1/+12Developers create commercial software to earn money to feed themselves and their families. What is wrong with that?
Why are 'real musicians from a time past' superior to real musicians from the present?
You are full of *****. I guess you are an IP thief too? - alexhladun, on 02/01/2009, -4/+14The best way to go (imo) is a free version that's ad-supported
Especially with crackulous now - computershack, on 02/02/2009, -3/+13So as iTunes sells songs for under $1, how come that's justifiable but cracking a similar priced app isn't?
- wastern, on 02/02/2009, -0/+10yep. lets see... double cheeseburger that i'll immediately regret eating vs an app that may entertain me for for hours on end
not a hard choice. Even if you only use the thing once for an hour, what is an hour of entertainment worth to you? You pay $10 to see a 2 hour movie. Is a buck or 2 too much to ask for an app?
I thought when I bought Things the price was a little steep compared to other apps out there, but when I look at how much I use it and the utility it provides vs the free Zenbe, it was worth it.
Unless you are poor and in college you have no excuse. When I was in college I justified this type of stuff since I didn't have a real job. I said once I got a job I'd buy everything. And I have. If you can afford $200 for a phone, you can afford $2 for an app. Skip the bar once Friday night and you'll offset every app you could want for the phone - chookalana, on 02/02/2009, -1/+11Where are the morons who say this is a good thing? First the "World of Goo" developer files for bankruptcy, and now this. These pirates are no better than the ones off the coast of Africa. They're not killing anyone, but they ARE taking their livelihood. Nice.
- Stan57, on 02/02/2009, -0/+9Stealing is stealing wither the product is 2:99 or 700.00 stealing will land you in jail no matter the price. There is NO justification.
- blackinthmiddle, on 02/02/2009, -1/+10*****! You're simply trying to justify stealing. Look, I'm no puritan and I've downloaded a movie or two. I've used the installous app to get one free game on the iPhone. However, stop trying to make yourself feel good. So now, you not only have to create something, but your "heart and soul" have to do it for the right reason, otherwise you don't deserve to get paid? Again, *****!
- Grumps, on 02/02/2009, -0/+8Yay for cheapos, boos for developer.
Cracking scene ain't gonna fix the 99 cents app market but simply keeps good developers/publisher from releasing anything good. - yabos, on 02/02/2009, -0/+8Nice of them to give the app away so I can easily decontruct their cracking methods and put countermeasures in.
- UselessTrivia, on 02/02/2009, -2/+10Nope...because it will start, or at least escalate, a firmware arms race. Apple only very reluctantly gave up an SDK for the iPhone because of demand...not something that Apple does very often. They wanted this thing to be a 100% closed ecosystem and now someone has given them an excuse.
They won't pull the plug on the app store or anything, because it makes them money....but there will be retaliation. Mark my words. A few subtle DRM changes in the next firmware update will render this thing inert and brick the phones of anyone who used it. - MightyUpsetter, on 02/02/2009, -0/+8I support the developer by going to their shows and buying merchandise!
Oh wait.
***** piracy in all its forms. - EvilCan, on 02/02/2009, -0/+8The hypocrisy on digg is ridiculous.
- 3vno, on 02/02/2009, -0/+8I know it sucks to buy a crappy app. Yet, most apps have a lite version. This is just hurting the developers. :(
- blackinthmiddle, on 02/02/2009, -0/+7It's not. To me, anyway. A lot of people subconsciously have less sympathy for artists and and RIAA because they're "making money" and have a sweet spot for small developers, who might be nothing more than themselves and a creative, who is probably their friend. Oh well.
- DealCracker, on 02/02/2009, -1/+8Apple needs to fix this. The code signing system is a major pain in the a$$ for developers. Now it's easier to crack than it is to sign for distribution.
- threon, on 02/02/2009, -0/+6What do you do for a living? I want you to work for me for free.
- GeckoSlayer, on 02/02/2009, -0/+6DantheMan1107, there is still that percentage that GOES to the artists, who cares if 15 cents goes to the label... You're still ripping the artist off of money...
Now I don't agree with people being sued thousands for sharing songs, but I do agree with larger bootleg operations getting sued like crazy (people who make money off sharing songs for example)... But I disagree with people downloading music because they think in their fanciful mind they're 'supporting' the artist by sticking it to the label.. The artist agreed to sign up with that label from the start, and the artist gets a percentage of the sales.. - inactive, on 02/02/2009, -2/+8I always laugh at these "I just want to try it" BS excuses
Their definition of "trying it" is putting 10 hours of time into a game and then deciding "neh I don't like it, i'll pass" - Grumps, on 02/02/2009, -0/+6Suck for people like me who are still in college and trying to clear off our $2000 development debt!
Developer + Designer + Sound Designer + Business Registration + Website development + Legal advisor
killed by one click crack - kreatre2007, on 02/02/2009, -1/+7Great! So, now all of the long hours and VERY HARD WORK that I put into building iPhone application interfaces will go to waste because some ***** are too ***** cheap to buy applications. This is definitely not a good thing at all! Why do some people insist in ***** up such a great thing? If you're too much of a cheap ***** to buy apps then, don't buy an iPhone or an iPod Touch!
- GeckoSlayer, on 02/02/2009, -1/+7from the crackulous developers twitter feed:
"@jima6636 Hard work went into it. I'm selling it for now because I need the money for future iPhone projects. I have life too."
Hopefully he starts to understand how small developers are feeling now? -
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