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- kolywater, on 11/05/2007, -15/+95am i the only one that gets really annoyed by that floating formatting palatte? actually, i just hate all of those floating info pane things. i hope leopard does away with them.
- Quix, on 10/12/2007, -14/+86Agreed, progress is being made, BUT...I'm kind of over Office at this point. I'm just anxious to hear about iWork 07. Hurry up and announce something, Apple!
- itistoday, on 10/12/2007, -9/+63M$ != MacBU, they're actually fairly respectable people and the software they make isn't half bad. From what I hear it's like entering a completely different world inside of Microsoft. Even the current PPC version of Word is better than Pages (in its current incarnation at least), you'd have to be a real psychotic "fanboi" to think otherwise. (I love Apple, but Office for mac trumps its competition and these latest screenshots look amazing!)
- hookshotzz, on 10/12/2007, -1/+36that actually looks like a great mac app. props to microsoft on this one.
- hinten, on 10/12/2007, -4/+38Oh no, this just fried my little brain... Don't know what to do...bash Microsoft...praise Apple...where is Linux?
Please, somebody tell me what to think. - qeek, on 10/12/2007, -4/+27"You'll want to lick it." :)
Very impressing. - FarcicalFart, on 10/12/2007, -5/+26That's beautiful...
- mrASSMAN, on 10/12/2007, -5/+24Pure sex in a spreadsheet.
- aprocter, on 10/12/2007, -19/+31I'm with kolywater. ***** floating palettes.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -7/+19This does look very nice. When did MS get an art team?
Also, check out http://neooffice.org/
It's not as pretty, but it's also not $100. - omaryak, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10It's not too often I say this, but go Microsoft! I hate Windows, but when it comes to Office I have to say they are kings.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+12Seek help?
- fbeecher, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9I go back and forth on the floating palettes... But I think basically they're a good idea that could be implemented in a better way. From a usability perspective, I find them better than toolbars. With a toolbar, you get access to a limited selection of functions and may need to go to a dialog to get more functions (for example, paragraph spacing). But with the palette, you can make all your changes right there... (for example, creating a bulleted list with 6 pt. spacing after each paragraph). While there may be one extra click to do simple things (opening the bullet panel then clicking the bullet list button), they are the *right* clicks (the clicks support the *context* of the user's task), which is more important than the number of clicks. By far.
But the Office Mac implementation of palettes would be greatly improved by remembering their settings between sessions (expanded palettes remain expanded, etc.) and by allowing them to lock to the document window. These two simple changes would mix the main benefit of the toolbar (consistent placement of functions) with the benefits of a palette. - mrASSMAN, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10Burn the building. Burn it all down.
- v0yeur, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10aqua is so yesterday
which puts it right on schedule for MS - noahhoward, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10They refer to them as 'the average user' but yeah, essentially. That seems to be a gripe I hear about MS a lot. They want to hold your hand too much.
bgbs... it's hilarious when someone praises Microsoft while using the M$ label for them. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -4/+11Too many cells being made...
- kerplunk, on 10/12/2007, -5/+12I have Office 2004 for Mac. Am I the only one that things this looks bad? The headers take up half of the application. The design looks like it came out of the year 2000. Then compare Office 2007 for Windows with this.
Yikes @ Office 2008 for Mac.
edit: It looks like you can make the menus "hide and show" so it does not take up so much space, but still. Why can't they figure out something better than having the floating formatting palette?
At least it's Universal. :) - jpt62089, on 10/12/2007, -13/+20I loved the floating menus! It was a lot more flexible. For me it was easier to use...
- scotsman, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Wow! Gotta say I'm impressed that MS finally hired designers with taste! These apps look great. I'll definitely be giving it a go, that is unless Pages gets some much needed features.
- marnaq, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8Throw a chair?
- drewjoh, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7@ kolywater - That was Entourage, not Word.
- danielwsmithee, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7@itistoday
I agree that pages does not compete with Word in a lot of areas. For anything largely text based I prefer Word. However Word still sucks once you start adding graphics to a document. It is 2007 and I remember WordPerfect back in 1997 handled graphic better then Word. That being said most of my work is done in Word and will continue to be. This update does look pretty promising. - noahhoward, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7I'd disagree with you. I've never like having a lot of stuff at the top of my apps I'll admit. But the current trend is for a larger screenspace. We're going, in general, for higher screen resolutions on bigger monitors so there is space for extra stuff at the top. Additionally, this extra stuff is useful for a change. It does look like they gave a lot of though to workflow and ease of use.
You can probably dock the formatting pallet, though I like having tool pallets I can push out of my way. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Agreed. They spent more time on improving the UI to fit more into Mac OS X. The Universal Binary is certainly great too.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5gosh, my spelling sucks today
- Angostura, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6How about treating a product on its merits?
- noahhoward, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6@Fearless... OpenOffice was starting to annoy me, it was taking so long to load up. It seemed like the update sorted that bit out but I haven't used it much lately to be absolutely certain.
- FearlessFreep, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Wonder if MS was getting complacent until Apple started going heavier with Pages and such and now MS doesn't see Mac as a locked-in customer base so they have to compete in that space again?
- lorenhatt, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6I'd rather save $400 and not buy OfficeMac, that's $400 that can be spent towards beer. Plus NeoOffice or OpenOffice work just fine, so what if you have to wait 10secs for it to load.
- ctour95, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I'll buy it. My university has a deal for students - 35 dollars for Microsoft Office Student Edition. I prefer making my presentations and documents with iWork at the moment.
- fbeecher, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Plus there are already widgets that do that kind of thing... iCal Events (shows upcoming events from all iCal calendars, including those imported from Entourage) and DoBeDo (for managing to-dos). If they make My Day a Widget, then I may use it. If not, I'll stick with my lovely F12 key.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -4/+8@BigPerm53
Everybody copies everybody.
"The first successful commercial GUI product was the Apple Macintosh, which was heavily inspired by PARC's work; Xerox was given Apple stock in exchange for engineer visits and an understanding that Apple would create a GUI product. Much later, in the midst of the Apple v. Microsoft lawsuit in which Apple accused Microsoft of violating its copyright by appropriating the use of the "look and feel" of the Macintosh GUI, Xerox also sued Apple on the same grounds."
Apple copied Xerox, MS copied Apple. Shut up, stupid fanboy. - NewChar, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Yeah I'm still not sure whether to digg him up or down
*head explodes* - ddmsel, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I'm pirating this the day it comes out.
- KAMiKAZOW, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4@dooraque:
Office 2007 has a Vista GUI? I haven't seen an Office version since 6.0 that fits into the Windows GUI. Office 2007 has its own skins. IIRC black and blue and both do not look like Vista's Aero.
Office 2007's blue skin somewhat works on Win XP with XP's default Luna Blue theme, but Office 2007 and Vista do not fit. - Caiman, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3That's because you rock.
- mytimac, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3The MS Mac unit may be the Mac friendly portion of MS, but they still make a horrible products if you live in a Windows world.
Entourage, worst Exchange server client for Mac EVER! They just dumped some poor non-mapi code on top of the crappy pop email code and send, "look, Exchange service in Entourage!"
Outlook 2001 contacts don't work correctly in Entourage (display name imported into email field).
Meeting invites suck when you have delegates.
No personal folder support so mail can be saved on a file server and not your HD or Exchange mail server. No read receipts.
No web form support.
Downloads all your email from server and proceeds to do temp lock up of Entourage everytime it goes to sync.
No Out of Office support or server side rules in general.
Entourage doesn't remeber window placements and opens new message window in upper left corner everytime.
and on and on and on.....
Powerpoint 2004, bigger memory hog then Powerpoint X by about 3x. PPT 2004 eats your ram for breakfast, imagine what 2008 will do. Keynote is worse than X but tons better than 2004. Switched to Keynote for good!
Only saving grace for 2004 is Word is less buggy for most things than version X.
Don't really use Excel. - gungaroo22, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5Think for yourself?
- nreynolds, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3they actually made it look like a mac program. Oh Microsoft, what have you done?
- rajputwarrior, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3holy giant UI batman!
- Quidam, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Are you kidding?
This is hot! It's officially been Mac-ified. - FluffyArmada, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5To be honest, I've always like Microsoft's Mac products. If you don't think this new version of office looks nice, it's probably a personal problem.
- rysar, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4At least theres no Ribbon interface yet...
- Angostura, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5Ha Ha Ha Ha. I could write and print a document in Word v.X in the time it takes NeoOffice to load.
- FearlessFreep, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5"@Fearless... OpenOffice was starting to annoy me, it was taking so long to load up. It seemed like the update sorted that bit out but I haven't used it much lately to be absolutely certain."
Understandable, but I don't do a lot of heavy duty word processing so it works fine for me and for my home use I'm just so over using Microsoft. (and having to use XP and Office at work reminds me why) - Lou3000, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Seriously, that looks great. I really can't think of some witty negative Microsoft comment. I'm a mac fanboy, but lets look at the recent track record.
Apple
iPhone, yay, but DRM'd and locked to 3rd parties. Looks great though.
That's about it, oh yeah iTV, uhm, doesn't Windows Media Center already do all that.
Oh yeah, they do sue bloggers like its their job. I still want that iPhone theme for my smartphone.
Microsoft
Office 2008 (though when is it actually coming out)
Vista is actually almost here
The Zune doesn't look that bad, I would look into one if I wasn't so locked into iTunes DRM
Xbox360 is kicking ass
I hate Microsoft as much as the next Mac user, but damn. I will definitely be purchasing Vista for my Macbook. - ArizonaKid, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I am using Office 2007 for Windows, and prefer the new interface featuring the ribbon. Office 2007, especially Excel 07, is an amazing productivity platform.
The Mac version, at least from the pictures, seems a little messy and thrown together. I dislike the formatting palette, and in general any program that uses multiple floating windows to perform the basic functions of the application (iWork).
It appears Office 2008 will be another second class citizen on the Mac, which is why many businesses will continue to use Windows to meet their productivity needs. - shortcircuit13, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Does anyone besides me not like the extra clutter of the template thumbnail bar and the document-bound menus?
I love the floating menu bars of Office for Mac 2004, since you would have one set of menus for any number of documents.
Now, if you have three docs open, you'll have thrice the clutter. Oy. - Angostura, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Huh?? You can just close the palette if you don't like it, surely? Poof - it's gone.
I like the formatting palette in v.X - haven't tried 2004. -
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