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- DaveMode, on 10/12/2007, -1/+24slow news day..
- whiteguysamurai, on 10/12/2007, -10/+32Never had a BSOD in XP.
- nathanson666, on 10/12/2007, -7/+27Soooo....
- designbydave, on 10/12/2007, -1/+16They happen, usually due to bad hardware. Windows XP is also set by default to reboot automatically instead of showing you the BSOD. So you may have had a BSOD but not known it.
XP is much more stable than previous versions of windows though. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+14I love my mac and my parallels and all that fanboy goodness - But this video is mad boring, yo.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+15wow.
/sarcasm - fyre2012, on 10/12/2007, -0/+12I had one the other day... faulty hard drive.
Never get them for software, just ***** ram and storage. - key134, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12The camera was adjusting to the screen going off (black). Try pointing a camera at a monitor or TV and then turning the monitor or TV off. It will do the same thing.
-Keith - Qoogirl, on 10/12/2007, -4/+15Neither have I, I haven't seen one in nearly 4 years...
(System freezing up with all RAM gone suddenly and not responding progs? Yeah...sometimes, but BSOD???)
My father has systems running 2000 and 98 and hasn't seen a BSOD at all really.
I'm beginning to think that people are just clutching onto this now...seriously. - designbydave, on 10/12/2007, -2/+12NEWS FLASH: you can run non apple monitors on apple computers!
- Dugg2Death, on 10/12/2007, -3/+11Wow, that would be really relevant if I ever got a BSOD under SP2..keep in mind I'm neither a fan boy of OSX,Windows, or Linux, but ***** is *****.
- designbydave, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8It sure looks to me like he just loaded his saved session, no rebooting necessary. That's the power of vitalization. It's just parallels loading a saved session, NOT OSX recovering from a BSOD. marked inaccurate
- EGOvoruhk, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5The only time I've ever gotten a BSOD was from Non-XP drivers. I think they were either hacked, or for similar hardware. It's been so long, I can't remember
- jasonsfakename, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Nor have I. in fact...it has been many years since I have seen one on any machine.
- maximinus, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5@mlwarrior: it recovered/restarted. That was one of those "Windows has recovered from a serious error" dialog boxes that popped up at the end.
- stevetures, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4looks like a format command causes a BSOD in Parallels. The fastest way to recover from a BSOD is to not have one.
- Anpheus, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3What is the point? It's virtualized, so... how is this different from Windows running a Linux/Unix distro, or running Windows XP under Red Hat, or any other combination.
Oh, wait, it's because it's OSX. Obviously because it's Apple, it is such superior software that it somehow fixes Blue Screens of Death faster than everything else. - makenai, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3It's not necessarily running on a hackintosh. Could just be a Dell monitor hooked up to a mini or something.
- titlesaysitall, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3That's amazazing
- shreevatsa, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3"They're doing some good things with Parallels. If I had more then a Mac Mini I might consider getting it. It's definatly worth paying for, it seems."
Not to be a grammar nazi or anything, not to criticise you or even slightly offend you, but just to make a general observation: using "then" for "than" is especially confusing when it's preceded by an "if". One can see how the initial part of the sentence can possibly be completed to "If I had more, then a Mac Mini that I might consider getting [is what I would buy, or some similiar phrase]".
I didn't even *notice* the "definatly" till I reread this message before hitting Submit :-) - wahooka, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4ok so whats so special about that? has he ever used a virtual server before?
- valis, on 10/12/2007, -6/+8Ok. So Parallels causes a BSOD. I haven't seen one on a PC for years. I think it has more to do with implementation than a problem with XP. In this case, anyway.
- prockcore, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Yeah, vmware can do that too.. it's a feature of virtualization.. it's one of the reasons why developers love vmware.
To put it in terms most diggers would understand, it's like the Save/Restore State feature of their gameboy emulator. - kevnaca, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Apparently you haven't heard about the Mac Mini or Mac Pro. You don't have to buy expensive Apple monitors my friend.
- rompom7, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3DelMonte: You will find that in 95% if not 100% off the cases it is due to the hardware.. Which is a sacrifice you have to make for being able to use the custom hardware you want.
If you set up your hardware properly, and you get the latest drivers.. You really shouldn't be getting an BSODs ever. - bolapara, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Easy to explain.
1. Crash dumps were not setup on the windows VM. (you can tell, the time between saying "i'm writing a crash dump" and "i'm done" is instantaneous)
2. Windows is configured to reboot after the crash dump, since there is none, it will reboot instantly.
3. Parallels obviously had a stale image from the BSOD that wasn't updated until the system changed video modes which happens RIGHT at the spot where the screen went back to the login screen.
If you tried that exact setup on bare hardware, you would see that BSOD flash up for a mere instant and go away while the system reboots. AFTER writing (or skipping) the memory dump, the system doesn't just sit there for several seconds. - h0zae, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1thanks for the clarification ---
- Markus123, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1You might want to consider stopping using computers, because apparently you're not doing it correctly.
- DrDabbles, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Alright, you are an idiot. I mean at BEST you're an idiot. At worst, you may have a severe form of retardation. First of all, Windows XP is rebooting immediately in the background. Parallels simply isn't showing you that. I'm not sure why, but they're not. Moreover, setting Windows to automatically reboot upon a blue-screen is quite literally the most useless feature ever inserted into the code. If the machine reboots before you can see where the error is, how are you to diagnose the issue? I mention this because I had a server configured that way, and it was impossible to find what driver was causing the hang.
So, you should go in for a checkup. You know, just to get the retardation thing sorted. - Araya213, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3I get BSODs when I overclock my video card too high.
- Micrll, on 10/12/2007, -3/+4I had a strange driver conflict in XP that caused it to BSOD whenever it tried to got to sleep or hibernation. It was a IEE1394 "network device".
It was extremely frustrating as I went to disable the network device and it would BSOD, uninstall the device and BSOD, update / rollback, remove the driver and it would BSOD. Safe-mode was no good even with networking as the device disappeared from the list. Finally went into BIOS and found I could disable it thought there, problem solved.
So yes BSOD does still exist.
Also on some systems its set to automatically reboot after a BSOD so in some cases people miss the screen as windows restarts. EDIT: ah designbydave cought it before me - stevetures, on 10/12/2007, -3/+4you can hook up any VGA / DVI monitor to to a mac.
- doyama, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1There's a few things that could be happening.
1) The fact you don't see the BIOS screen is a bit fishy.All virtualization software when rebooting dumps you back to the BIOS screen. Which makes me think....
2) While the BSOD screen is up Parallels is actually going thru the basic BIOS procedure and booting the OS. Since its on the virtual desktop it may not be refreshing this information on the screen.
3) BSODing on a virtual machine is not unheard of. Since hardware support is generally limited you can crash the machine by adding a USB device as this person did.
Basically what I think happened is 2). When the BSOD screen is up you see the hour glass go up. This indicates to me that the virtual machine itself is rebooting, merely that the virtual desktop is not refreshing this information. I suspect, if the person duplicates the process but runs the crash in a window they will see the machine rebooting. - kevnaca, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1kernal panics and BSOD are pretty much equal. No Mac or MS bashing because it happens to everyone even linux. I've had kernal panic in Mac OS X before and the same on my WindowsXP. But neither happen frequently. It's a once in awhile thing that i probably see 2-3 times a year at most.
- shit, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Dear Internet,
When you're filming a monitor, please remember to enable manual focus and manual iris if your camera supports those features. Also, use a ***** tripod.
This, of course, should not be followed if you have composite/S-video out on your graphics card. Rather, plug your DV camera into your computer's video out (the same cables that hook up to the TV for output work as input as well), put the camera in VTR mode and press record. Then capture this footage onto your computer as usual.
That, of course, should not be followed if you have the CPU power to use a screen capture program to record the action on your screen into a high resolution video. Then you should show the scaled-down high resolution image, and fade/zoom into the important areas, allowing text to be read at YouTube resolutions.
These are handy tips that you should follow. Please think of quality, Internet, please. If you have the time to record something in your own house, it shouldn't look like a video from E3.
Love,
***** - PhilUk, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Lucky you, I've had several. Listening to Security Now, it appears the most secure and stable way of running windows XP (or Vista when it comes out) is under OSX.
Plus you get the great Apple hardware etc.
When I have a spare couple if thousand pounds I'll be gettin' me a MBP. Or maybe the next time I fly to the states. Whichever comes first. - wastern, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I'd wait for Crossover to get better. Why run full windows inside OS X, when you can just run the app you need and not have to pay for a copy of windows or be confined to the windows desktop with your apps
- mancat, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Good evening mountainpenguin. "wysoft" here.
Nobody says that it never happens. However, the myth that it happens to every Windows user on a daily basis is the exaggeration.
I think that this is only fair: http://flickr.com/search/?q=kernel+panic - Barlo_Mung, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Is it any faster than recovering from the same thing under VMware on Linux or Windows for that matter?
- wastern, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"Ok. So Parallels causes a BSOD. I haven't seen one on a PC for years. I think it has more to do with implementation than a problem with XP. In this case, anyway."
I think he forced it for the video, there is a registry tweak you can to to control BSODs for testing purposes
Parallels didn't cause it - mancat, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Could be because Parellels does not provide a 100% stable VM.
- Spo8, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2How on earth did they get it to actually go BSOD? I've yet to have one, although I have seen it happen on one troublesome computer. It wasn't taken care of very well, though.
Edit: Just read the description of how they did it. Strange, as I just formatted my USB flash drive and it worked like a charm. - zweben, on 10/12/2007, -4/+4And he is running Windows through Parallels through a hacked version of OS X on a Dell.... why exactly?
- stevetures, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1If you mac fanboys knew how to NOT run tons of untested software, then maybe you would think BSODs are a problem. I've seen enough 10.4 kernel panics to know that they're not fake either.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Anyone who thinks that BSD is just a Windows thing would NOT enjoy this . . .
http://digg.com/hardware/Mac_Vs_PC_What_We_Actually_Think_When_We_See_Those_Ads - xtr3m, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1"MS fanboys"? I thought Microsoft had no fans.
The difference between Windows and OS X is that the latter isn't required to run on practically any hardware setup. Apple developers have it really easy in this sense. - Ashex, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1@designbydave
"XP is much more stable than previous versions of windows though."
I take it you haven't used Windows 2000 very much. - mancat, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1"Moreover, setting Windows to automatically reboot upon a blue-screen is quite literally the most useless feature ever inserted into the code."
Uhh, what if you have a machine that needs to stay up unattended? What are you going to do?
"If the machine reboots before you can see where the error is, how are you to diagnose the issue?"
Load the crash dump into WinDbg. - DelMonte, on 10/12/2007, -13/+12Yeah the thousands of Windows tech forums with millions of posts from people having BSOD, freezes and other bad problems with Windows are just fake?
- h0zae, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2I was with the guy that recorded the video -- it crashes, parallels gives a usb connection error, and then you get the log in screen -- this was reproduced several times... the only os running under parallels was a single version of XP...
the video is simply showing how parallels can quickly recover from a bsod in a few seconds, in the pc world it requires a reboot. -
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