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- thinkdifferent, on 10/17/2007, -6/+125You've evidently never written an SDK before. Getting it right the first time is critical. As it stands now, the SDK for the iPhone is internal to Apple and all apps developed are done in-house. Thus coordinating updates is much easier. Once you release an SDK, you can't change it without potentially breaking 3rd party apps, so it has to be stable and locked. Apple pushed Leopard back so they could pull engineers off to work on the iPhone to meet their June launch date. They've just now released the update that contained the ITMS mobile, which they probably wanted to have for launch. If you think they also had time to design and build a stable SDK, you're mistaken in what it takes to release an OS.
- fkr3, on 10/17/2007, -34/+87Why would it have something to do with Leopard if it "may" be announced in January when Leopard is due out "this month"?
Any delay on an SDK for the iPhone is a stalling tactic, done for no other reason than to stop you using VOIP and IM services. - jobo5432, on 10/17/2007, -44/+95Like OMG! For Sure! Folks, if you like the f*cking iPhone... buy it. If you don't...don't. Who the f*ck are you to demand Apple do anything? Also, you realize this is Apple, and not say God, right?
- inactive, on 10/17/2007, -5/+40Early blunders? It's been 30 years Apple has tried to be on top of computing. Don't act like Steve Jobs just arrived on the scene with his magical toys a few years ago.
- _skin_, on 10/17/2007, -4/+35Really, do you guys expect the VOIP service over EDGE to be even close to acceptable?
- nightstrm, on 10/17/2007, -4/+33Buried for the stupid OMG at the beginning of the title.
- victorycig, on 10/17/2007, -4/+31Thank you. I love seeing intelligent, productive comments on digg.
- inactive, on 10/17/2007, -0/+26I'm guessing it would be used in conjunction with wifi when wifi access is available. VOIP over EDGE is not feasible.
- taintedzodiac, on 10/17/2007, -4/+29OMG: Are You Trying To Get Buried?
- jayhawk, on 10/17/2007, -12/+37ding! ding! ding!
that's exactly right and exactly why it hasn't happened yet. - postalblowfish7, on 10/17/2007, -2/+19OMG: yet another comment about how many iPhone posts there are on digg. if you really didn't care, you wouldn't have clicked through, and then posted a comment here.
- Nicksname1, on 10/17/2007, -4/+21Worst PUN ever: leopard is in the wild
- tnoy, on 10/16/2007, -3/+20AT&T hasnt done anything to stop me from using my own ringtones with my Treo or the Sony Ericsson phone I had before it. The Treos, blackberry phones, and the AT&T branded Windows Mobile phones offer support for third-party applications without hacks. Apple is the one restricting you, not AT&T.
- victorycig, on 10/17/2007, -0/+15Hardly anything is acceptable over EDGE...
- lordsandwich, on 10/16/2007, -2/+16I don't know about that, at least we have conclusive evidence that Steve Jobs actually exists. ;)
- antoniojvr, on 10/17/2007, -3/+15OMG my BFF Jill!
- rebotfc, on 10/16/2007, -1/+13May, might, if, but, perhaps...
Yeah informative article alright. :/ - 5hocker, on 10/17/2007, -16/+28since when does Biz Week start their Articles with "OMG"?
Also - in case you don't know when to call ***** and that the author is completely guessing try this:
"Meanwhile, writing and installing individual programs that run on the phone remain officially forbidden, extremely difficult, and somewhat pointless given Apple's heavy-handed response to such efforts thus far."
Might as well have said a moon man told him - drakino, on 10/17/2007, -5/+15VOIP over 3G wouldn't be that great either. Latency kills it, and 3G networks for the most part aren't any better latency wise then EDGE.
Now VOIP over WiFi? Definitely acceptable. - inactive, on 10/16/2007, -9/+18yawn.
- ceralor, on 10/16/2007, -4/+12Few people cared until his black turtleneck started looping them in.
- GeekSwag, on 10/16/2007, -6/+14Objection!!! Hearsay! Hearsay!
- benitojuarez, on 10/16/2007, -1/+8so, just hypothetically speaking, if apple were to open the iphone, would those of you who paid 50-100 dollars or whatever for the unlocks bitch to apple for a credit too?
- skinfitz, on 10/17/2007, -1/+8VoIP and streaming media work fine over 3G.
- etandrib, on 10/17/2007, -1/+8I wonder what the AT&T + Apple agreement actually states. It is strange that there isn't a Chat application yet… which makes you wonder if they are suppressing it to boost and promote SMS more. However AT&T has cheap phones with AIM on them and they don't care.
Maybe the real reason is because Apple is waiting for a big bang show where they unveil iPhone v2 and it has 3G with audio/video conferencing on the phone… that would be cool. - inactive, on 10/17/2007, -1/+8Jay, you obviously aren't a programmer. Apple pushed Leopard back because they had to move developers over to the iPhone team stretching their development staff really thin. The reason for the SDK delay is the lack of developers.
- frostieDude, on 10/17/2007, -0/+6Not only that, but they probably only TESTED the iphone SDK with the Leopard tool chain - which is probably the toolchain that everyone at Apple has been using for a long time.
If I were them, I would consider it a waste of time to even bother testing anything related to an iPhone SDK on Tiger. - FearNLoathing, on 10/16/2007, -6/+12Buried for attention whoring comment. NO ONE CARES WHETHER OR NOT YOU DUGG THE STORY. STFUKTHXBYE.
- dsendecki, on 10/17/2007, -0/+6VOIP over WIFI — forget EDGE
- mrjit, on 10/18/2007, -2/+8You all should be banned for listening to such ***** music.
- somerandomnerd, on 10/16/2007, -2/+7Technically, it's the record labels who are restricting Apple, but yeah- AT&T aren't the cause of the problem.
- ThinkBox, on 10/16/2007, -1/+6OMG: yet another comment about how if you don't care about a topic, you should voice your opinion.
He doesn't care about the iPhone. He is perfectly allowed to submit that to express his frustration with the article.
I have an iPhone, and I could care less if people hate the stories on Digg or love them to death. It doesn't change anything for me. The only thing more annoying than someone who bitches, is someone who bitches about a bitcher.
All I'm saying is, don't confuse "not caring" with "having a negative opinion." If he posts, he obviously cares to some extent. It's just a negative opinion. You are literally doing the same thing as him. That's where I see the comedy.
(And for the record I'm not "attacking you" Im just pointing out that you assert your opinion to tell him he shouldn't assert his opinion. Don't drag me through any relativistic *****, you all know what I'm getting at here)
/opinion - Peavey, on 10/16/2007, -1/+6"ding! ding! ding!
that's exactly right and exactly why it hasn't happened yet." - Linh, on 10/16/2007, -1/+6you know, I honestly wasn't even thinking of it, ha.. it is pretty bad.
- benchwarmer, on 10/17/2007, -4/+9Ehh, the moon man doesn't spout whack ***** like that.
- inactive, on 10/17/2007, -34/+39OMG: yet another iPhone post on Digg.
- dsendecki, on 10/16/2007, -1/+5SKYPE over Wifi on my Nokia e61i rocks — future is now on Symbian baby!
- yoakster314, on 10/17/2007, -1/+5--- and I'm about to break!
- benitojuarez, on 10/17/2007, -1/+5This one is very astute.
- twoboxen, on 10/17/2007, -8/+12who cares? In other words... please don't pay attention to competitors! We now are forced to make upgrades due to their presence (See Microsoft's development of internet explorer prior to and following the rise of firefox). Don't give apple credit even if this story held any weight, which it doesn't. Buried.
- fluxion, on 10/17/2007, -0/+4Since we started equating Digg headlines with the headlines on the actual page
- dgh1973, on 10/16/2007, -0/+4"Don't act like Steve Jobs just arrived on the scene with his magical toys a few years ago."
Actually in the overall scheme of things that's exactly what happened... I mean give the guy some credit - he returned and saved apple with those magical toys fairly recently. Right before that the outlook was pretty grim for them.
Anyhow back to topic, I agree with the person citing stalling tactics. There's no reason to keep it locked beyond money, and I don't think people who hack it are technically breaking any laws either... are they? Just open it up and be done with it already. - colincornaby, on 10/16/2007, -0/+4By most standards, yes, that would be opening the phone. As in opening the phone to 3rd party developers.
- rebotfc, on 10/16/2007, -0/+4Think real life is any better? darfur , burma , iraq...
now that's depressing. - theotheragentm, on 10/16/2007, -0/+4Doubt it. I'll see you on Digg this weekend.
- letdowntourist, on 10/16/2007, -0/+4And with apple having such a huge market share of the online music industry, it doesn't make much business sense to open up that particular section of their phones. Not saying its right, just saying it.
- st0ney, on 10/17/2007, -0/+4Really?!?! You needed to add the sarcasm tag?
- inactive, on 10/16/2007, -0/+4oh my the 'jesus phone' is reborn and all iphone owners are assummed into heaven [/sarcasm]
- postalblowfish7, on 10/16/2007, -1/+4i think you were trying to say:
"i have an iphone and even i an sick of the posts" - kelly, on 10/16/2007, -0/+3don't worry... they will
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