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- canewediggit, on 10/12/2007, -28/+156seriously. i was living in japan when docomo debuted 3g. you know when that was? dec- 2001. please, read that again. 2001. get with the frickin times already. it's a beautiful phone, no doubt. but to be on a 1/2 ass network and not really have the streaming video that we really want the mobile internet for, well, they'll never see my $600
- diulei, on 10/12/2007, -5/+98Yea. I saw someone on the train a few years back in Tokyo using sign language through video calls on the train and was very impressed.
And we still can't do that.
With that said, in America, we have garbage disposals in our sinks. So take that rest of the world with cooler gadgetry! - dtd00d, on 10/12/2007, -71/+144"It's not 3G" "Touchscreens are stupid" "This will never work" "Bluetooth?" "It's bigger than my 80 gig ipod" "videos on only a few gigs?" "Apple is stupid."
Face it, Nokia. We still want one. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -7/+78"What the ***** is 3G?"
Congratulations. You're Apple's target audience for this phone. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -6/+59The iPhone is a tremendously impressive bit of portable computing technology. However, as a cell phone, it most definitely is not that impressive at all.
If you were sane, or valued your money in any way, I'd recommend that you wait for at LEAST a 2nd generation iPhone, if not longer. - lava, on 10/12/2007, -3/+38Man I want to live in japan. They have gps enabled phones. You can point your cell at a building and it will give you information on it.
- mikeroySoft, on 10/19/2009, -16/+51Who cares about 3g when there's WiFi?
- sigmaman2, on 10/12/2007, -4/+37From what I've seen Apple do in the past, they will let all the customers dog-pile on Cingular for a while, until the customers start complaining. That'll take a little less than a year. By that time, an updated iPhone will probably be out, and they will announce the new iPhone with a new carrier, at a lower price.
THAT will be the phone to get! - jzp-digg, on 10/12/2007, -0/+32We have crap networks in the us. oh well. Hopefully the non-US phones will be non-crippled.
- chadu, on 10/12/2007, -7/+34the wii isn't next gen either, right? look what it's doing to Sony.
- mindsnare, on 10/12/2007, -8/+29It's not those features that are innovative, it's the interface and OS, the multi touchscreen.
although, not UMTS or HSPDA, grr.
I'm going to predict that before this device gets to europe, australia and japan that a 3G version will be released, countries outside US won't see this till 2008 - ReubADoob, on 10/12/2007, -4/+24After those 2 fiascos in Oregon with the climbers on Mt. Hood and the guy from CNet everyone should be getting GPS on their phone.
- listrophy, on 10/12/2007, -5/+25@mindsnare
Bingo. OS X in your pocket. Mac developers have got to be salivating right now. Imagine the cool little 3rd party apps. - BassCadet, on 10/12/2007, -33/+52Since when are people who buy Apple products concerned with technology?
They don't care if it's 3G. They want a pretty case and an easy interface.
(OK....so maybe I'm stereotyping here, but am I really that far off?) - vermin, on 10/12/2007, -25/+43There's one thing Apple has that Nokia doesn't though. Rabid fanboys who will buy just about anything Steve Jobs shoves down their throat.
- CasaMan, on 10/12/2007, -11/+29It's 2,5G AND WIFI.. Good enough for me!
- VicHislop, on 10/12/2007, -0/+17Thank you for sharing this.
- nsummy, on 10/12/2007, -16/+31He makes a good point, but its not really Apple's fault. 3G is hardly anywhere in the United States so it really isn't that big of a deal that the iphone only supports edge. Granted Nokia has been preaching the convergence of multimedia and phone, but nothing they have done is nearly as innovative as this iphone. And just to let everyone know, I don't like macs, I don't own an ipod, but I definately plan on buying this phone in June unless something revolutionary comes out before then.
- finkployd, on 10/12/2007, -0/+13Technology that ain't coming to the US anytime soon.
- EtherGnat, on 10/12/2007, -1/+14"Who cares about 3g when there's WiFi?"
The whole point of a cell phone is that it's mobile--presumably you spend a fair amount of time where you won't have wi-fi access. From personal experience I can also say that wi-fi on a phone is not all it's cracked up to be. Apple's implementation may be better than what I've experienced but it's slow to connect and drains battery life like crazy. Even when I was on a 2.5g network I seldom used it, and now that I have EVDO access it's redundant.
@signal15 "few parts of the US have 3G. Cingular is the only GSM provider that actually has it,"
Sprint and Verizon have EVDO service across a large portion of the country. - Groovester, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12What's with all the Apple fanboys? Oh wait, this is digg...
- ugopk, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11They probably couldn't figure out how to keep the battery consumption low while including 3G and GPS. I have a blackjack right now, and the device uses considerable more power on 3G than on EDGE. With the big screen, and all those functions on the iPhone, I wouldn't be surprise that battery is one of the main reason why it's not 3G.
- Erroneus, on 10/12/2007, -6/+16TomtheWombat or build a phone which does both, like ALL current 3G phones does....
It's a pretty big mistake the lack of 3G, when the phone has such great internet features.
Yes it has WIFI, but thats just not good enought, WIFI coverage is not good enought and dont even start talking about EDGE.
Think I'm gonna for a Nokia N95 and then hopefully 2. gen. iPhone will include 3G or even better HSPDA. - humperdeath, on 10/12/2007, -3/+12Of course the 1st iPhone is not a 3G phone. This is Apple, remember. (marketing genius) After 10 million of these phones are sold, (in about 6 months!) only THEN they will release the upgrade model, that will be 3G. Then we all have to buy another one. Then 6 months later, there is a new cool color we all gotta get. You know the drill.
- betterth, on 10/12/2007, -3/+12Nothing listed here in 800$, what are you talking about?
- mandarin, on 10/12/2007, -3/+12Realplayer? Whats that?
- TheUngod, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10It feels like Apple is pulling a PS3 here. Based on historical popularity, they can make an excessively overpowered product that has loads of features nobody wants or needs and charge way more than any competitor. I guess they hope their fanboys are more rabid than Sony's.
- mindsnare, on 10/12/2007, -0/+93G is a newer kind of mobile phone technology that allows for much faster data transfer than GSM+EDGE, the most common 3G protocols are UMTS and HSPDA
- magicRob, on 10/12/2007, -4/+13The thing is Apple aren't even going to be selling this device into Europe until late 2007 and Asia until 2008. By then it may have it's 2nd (or even 3rd) generation iPhone out for those regions. Apple just gives you a taste of whats to come, and like any good electronics maker, allows space for you to buy another one when it time to give you a few more features.
- otheruser, on 10/12/2007, -4/+12eh... innovation isn't just software & hardware modifications. True, historic innovation rapidly alters how a product is used (Wii, Blackberry, etc.).
The iPhone does precisely that. The entire phone is essentially a giant multi-finger touchscreen. - dave1021, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8Here's what people want in a cell phone: a phone. That works.
And a cheap rate.
End of story. - djSyndrome, on 10/12/2007, -4/+12Last I checked, the Zune couldn't make phone calls. Two completely different devices.
- monkeyrun, on 10/12/2007, -6/+13"The Wii isn't $800"
neither is the iPhone. - signal15, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7Well, the fact is, that few parts of the US have 3G. Cingular is the only GSM provider that actually has it, except it's on the 850Mhz band, not the 2.1Ghz band like the rest of the world. TMO just bought the rights to the 2.1Ghz band here in the US, and are planning on rolling out 3G on that.
- nayr, on 10/12/2007, -3/+10no, he makes a valid point. Nobody (who's not a geek) doesn't know what the hell a 3G is, but they'll know what the iPhone is.
- monkeyrun, on 10/12/2007, -6/+13wtf are you talking about.
Any semi decent smart phone cost $499+ - netburnr, on 10/12/2007, -12/+19GPS is the killer for me too. All phones out these days have a GPS built in for 911, why not let us use that for our own apps like navigation.
- timxpx, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8no 3g on the iphone makes me feel like my cingular 8525 is more worthwhile. it's the only thing thats keeping me from kicking myself in the pants for buying this thing on launch day in november for the same price the iphone is going to be released for.
i haven't even sent in the rebate slip for my phone and apple manages to make it obsolete. - chembro84, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6I can understand, 3G is pretty much non-existent in the US, they have in the SF bay area where I live, but the prices are such a joke that I wouldn't even consider it (especially considering I can find a hot spot, pretty much wherever I am)
- epistemological, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7you need to get laid brother.
- arvster, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Isn' t Symbian OS an OS?
- fantasticjon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Nokia makes some awesome phones. The problem is if you go to cingular's site or Verizon or whoever they only carry or promote Nokia's medicore phones. Go to Nokia's site. They have some cool innovations. Some VP meathead at Verizon or Nokia doesn't think enough Americans will pay $500 or 600 for a cool phone that it would be worth offering it. Apple does though and so do I.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6it sounds brilliant, but without 3g there's no streaming media and that makes it distinctly old-school.
here in the uk customers demand the latest features--basically all contract phones and all the good ones are third generation. bummer for apple's decision - modifiedbears, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5the iphone is beautiful but there are a few things to think about.
battery life
smudging
cingular
good to have all you early adopters work out the problems for the rest of us who can't drop $600 on a phone. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5i doubt nokia are scared
baring i mind if we're going by sales figures they're currently the worlds leading seller of digital audio players (all their phones have mp3's and they sold somewhere in the region of 70-80 million units last year) which is more than apple have sold ipods since 2002 according to apples own sales figures :-)
im sure they're REALLY scared of a phone thats outdated already (not 3g but i give them kudos for having 802.11b/g/n wifi) and thats not even got fcc approval yet so it might possibly never even come out (although that is stupidly unlikely) - flag564, on 10/12/2007, -4/+9What, fankids, am I making this up? Go do a Google search for teh phones that exist in Asia, and see for yourself.
Modding down comments isnt covering that up. - wilhoitm, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7The 3G networks are not ready yet in the U.S. The ones that are drop out or charge too much for bandwidth.
- bcardarella, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6Forget 3G, there would be 4G appliances out by now if the 802.16 IEEE group would get off their collective ass. (and better yet, there would be 802.20 appliances out if the telecom industry hadn't blocked it)
- robdiggity, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Well, there's also CDMA EVDO and EVDO rev A. You can Sling and ORB quite nicely over EVDO. This is widely available in the US now, and has been for a year or more, from both Sprint and Verizon (less expensively from Sprint).
- sargant, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5As far as I can tell from my cursory glance at wikipedia, EDGE networks don't even exist in Britain. Am I wrong in presuming this makes it incompatible in the entire UK, at least in the short term?
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