45 Comments
- AwwSchucks, on 07/25/2008, -1/+21the new facelift is looking nice
- pyrates, on 07/25/2008, -1/+20Cydia is much better then installer. For one thing, Cydia is the only way to get a proper bsd subsystem. It's also been in use as the rock solid package management system that debian uses, known as apt. You can also get a listing of all packages you have installed so that when you restore your iphone, you'll have that list of packages right away and be able to install them all. Try that with installer. With installer, you have to manually copy down each app installed, and then when restoring, manually install that app again.
But I always welcome competition. - PathDaemon, on 07/25/2008, -0/+15The first time I installed Cydia back in the days of 1.1.x, it did indeed screw up my phone and I felt the same way... but franky, I've been liking it BETTER than installer lately. It ain't bad, try it.
- Almadiel, on 07/25/2008, -1/+9It will need more than eye candy to stack up to cydia. Not having dependencies is fatal for any serious package manager. Thats why you don't see any real development tools on installer. With cydia, I click one button and I have everything I need to write and compile iphone apps over ssh.
- spookyttws, on 07/25/2008, -0/+8Although, admittedly more geek focused, Cydia is growing on me. It just seems more stable and better organized. When they add a sources tab, I'll be fine with it.
But who says I have to convert, Cydia and Installer can be run without issue side by side. - Hamletlere, on 07/25/2008, -0/+7Yes there are. Not many, I grant, but there are some. Installer.app won't help this though.
- Hamletlere, on 07/25/2008, -0/+7At least Cydia installed GOOD BSD system tools, where by the bash shell worked correctly, and you could change your login passwords without hosing up your phone.
I refuse to go back to Installer.app after that crap. I had thought the problems I was experiencing with "bash" was processor related, when all along it was just not compiled properly. - ausfahrt, on 07/25/2008, -1/+8Does it do dependencies? That's what we need.
- mediaphile, on 07/25/2008, -1/+7It's all runtime stuff, and takes up very little space. No reason to uninstall anything but what you personally installed.
At least Cydia is transparent about what it installs. Ignorance is no reason to trash a piece of software; if you want to know more about what's installed, just pull up the info for each entry. - organik, on 07/25/2008, -0/+6And those apps won't be out yet for Installer, either.
- TehDoctor, on 07/25/2008, -0/+5As poorly written as your post is, I have to agree with it. The jailbreak community
(of which I was a small part) worked tirelessly to make the iPhone OS open to
developers in a time when we thought Apple never would. They made all these tools
for FREE, many of them GNU GPL, and some of the community thanks them by making
closed source payware?
Way to stab the people who gave a market in the back. Sketches should be free. So should
everything else that was developed before the App Store. - Almadiel, on 07/25/2008, -0/+5Most of the apps people care about are not allowed on the app store anyway (emulators, terminal access, themes... all against the apple license agreement). And if they are, then its a non-issue anyway.
- Almadiel, on 07/25/2008, -0/+5Then ssh into your phone and add one line to a text file for the same result.
- TomFrost, on 07/26/2008, -0/+4They're adding that feature. Quite frankly, I think having Cydia, which already has all the features Installer's trying to add, is far better than not even having installer in any form. That, as you say, "cucks".
- ziggotron, on 07/27/2008, -0/+4What's up with everyone thinking that when Installer 4 comes out, all the apps will magically become 2.0 compatible?
- xsecretfiles, on 07/25/2008, -3/+7We love Sundays. We think you will too.
- max1018, on 07/25/2008, -0/+3Installer 4.0 will have dependencies... check out http://russianiphone.ru/blog/
- GuyeNoir, on 07/25/2008, -0/+3Liar, Halo totally did it first.
- mediaphile, on 07/25/2008, -1/+3Cydia and Installer are not competing. They both have their strengths, and they play nice together.
- dpowre, on 07/26/2008, -1/+3are you kidding? it looks just like the app store
- indiepenguins, on 07/25/2008, -3/+5My gripe with Cydia is all the stuff under "Manage." It comes with a list of 20 or so things pre-installed, 99% of which I have no idea what they are. I'm assuming they are pretty important so I don't know what I can uninstall.
- TomFrost, on 07/26/2008, -0/+2@mediaphile: Until the new installer comes out with its dependency system. Then when you install something that requires BSD Subsystem, what do you think will happen?
- MrViklund, on 07/27/2008, -0/+2Buried as spam because of gizmodo.com. Those kids are not worthy writing about anything Apple or iPhone.
- PathDaemon, on 07/27/2008, -0/+2@TomFrost
Just install a "Fake BSD Subsystem" package. - xiangxianni, on 02/28/2009, -0/+2Although, admittedly more geek focused, Cydia is growing on me.
http://www.registrycleanersreviews.info
It just seems more stable and better organized. When they add a sources tab, I'll be fine with it. - Virgule, on 07/25/2008, -2/+3Actually the App Store is my thing along iPod + iTunes , Movie Rentals and multiple OS X features just to name a few.
Apple has a trail of stealing other's stuffs and substituting it with their own without sending a single penny to the guy... Yes its true. Wanna fight me on that? :D - inactive, on 07/27/2008, -1/+2What a strange attitude for someone who bought Apple's latest and greatest.... guess you realized how they are after all, next year.... iPhone 4g!
- louiebaur, on 07/25/2008, -2/+2yea looks cool
- Zcott, on 07/25/2008, -2/+2I'm only a casual geek and I find cydia too geeky for me.
- daridave, on 07/25/2008, -5/+5Oh, wait, so you mean we won't have to wait for Apple to make a "Iphone Video" in 8 months, for 600$, before grabbing video? Amazing. I wish something could fix my 3G reception failing all the time, though ... (ok, sorry for the negativity, I guess I'm pissed, my iPhone isn't working well.)
- dekadent30, on 03/19/2009, -0/+0get purple iPhone for free here: http://www.viddler.com/explore/freeiPhone only rule is that you must be US resident, free iphone get it!
- j0se, on 07/25/2008, -4/+4Bring on the App Store programs to Installer.app =P
- L3W1S360, on 07/26/2008, -3/+2I think the new GUI is very clean and looks good. Just hope it will be made to run on 2.0 so people can use it if they don't like Cydia.
- xsecretfiles, on 07/25/2008, -3/+2just wait 2 more years...
- dusingaz, on 07/25/2008, -5/+2You think apple is going to let developers distribute on the app store and an illegal hacked installer? Think again, so all those popular free apps will not develop for the hacked installer.
- inactive, on 07/25/2008, -8/+4This was all my idea...
- BurgerPunch, on 07/25/2008, -6/+2Why doesn't it look like a ***** iPhone app?
***** ugly custom GUI crap - deroderugridder, on 07/25/2008, -8/+3I want Android on my Iphone, now that would be badass
- FleetAdmiral, on 07/25/2008, -7/+2this is what I want before I upgrade my iTouch to 2.0 Sketches should be FREE like it was in jailbroken, hell all free ones from Installer.app should still be FREE from Apple App Store. Once I can have the best of both worlds, then all should be peachy, till then, no upgrade for me to 2.0!
- themarq, on 07/25/2008, -9/+4Thanks installer guys.
That is all. - indiepenguins, on 07/25/2008, -17/+12About time. I refuse to use Cydia.
- SexyFarts, on 07/25/2008, -8/+3I just can't wait until they figure out a way to run Apple Store Apps for free without having to authorize them. You can already download plenty of the pay apps on torrent but can't run it since it asks you to authorize it.
- joeycerone, on 07/25/2008, -10/+3I only dislike cydia because there are no 2.0 apps out yet.
- MrViklund, on 07/25/2008, -13/+6Buried as spam because of gizmodo.com. Those kids are not worthy writing about anything Apple or iPhone.
- chetanthaker, on 07/25/2008, -10/+2This is very good news. Creating a custom .ipsw every time you want to add a source is *****. Cydia CUCKS. Long live Installer!



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