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- paulmetzger, on 10/12/2007, -3/+24CLICKING THAT LINK WILL MAKE SAFARI CRASH!
and it's linked in original article - supersteve, on 10/12/2007, -4/+17thats what i did with IE for Mac
- Linkage155, on 10/12/2007, -4/+16I can see the fan-boys fight has already started (from both sides), let me clarify, that as I do not use nor have ever used a mac (money reasons :P) any software anywere HAS bugs, so. Don't get started guys, both linux, Windows and Mac have them, and we just got to get used to seeing these digg's as warning to members, and not a place to put eachother's comment down.
- mmm_linux, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11woah... that was like the worst crash i have ever had on my ibook. safari just quit.
- DoMaurier, on 10/12/2007, -4/+12Here's a link to the actual blog post: http://www.drunkenblog.com/drunkenblog-archives/000760.html
DrunkenBatman returns to kill Safari. Huzzah! - t3hX, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Won't work anyway. You can't have the exif data (why this crashes) in the favicon. It can only be in a JPG file.
- paulmetzger, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7Fox (even the newest one) is slightly buggy and slower than the windows/linux version. Safari (and also Camino, which is from Mozilla and uses gecko) utilize the the Cocoa framework, so the widgets are aqua and things like red-underlined-squiggly spellchecking work.
Firefox has a better plugin system tho... - SnakeO, on 10/12/2007, -4/+9It's not tied into the OS like IE. It's a completely separate app bundled with OS X.
- burtreynolds, on 10/12/2007, -5/+10no, it's not tied into the OS
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6We can throw our Safari in the Trash and then "Secure Empty Trash" if we hated it that much.
- wastern, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7Safari isn't a bad browser like IE, we don't need an alternative. The lead designer for Safari was actually one of the guys that started up Firefox.
Safari is also faster on a Mac then Firefox is. I aslo prefer the look and feel, i know firefox has skins, i've used dozens and none match it. - MikhoohkiM, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6Report it to apple?
- craigtheguru, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6I use both Safari and FireFox, but actually prefer Safari because I can synchronize my bookmarks between machines and it uses standard text field behaviors. For example, if I click Shift-Down, FireFox doesn't select the line of text whereas Safari does so correctly. This in particular is incredibly handy for lopping off parts of URLs.
- supersteve, on 10/12/2007, -10/+14jack ass
- perryge, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Safari is very tightly integrated with many of the other features and applications in OSX. For example, it supports the built-in dictionary, its bookmarks can be used by the RSS screensaver, and many more. Like many other Apple applications (and some Cocoa apps, like Adium), it is designed to be tightly knit with with the other apps in OSX. So in that sense, it is 'tied' to the operating system, but not in the same way that IE is to Windows.
- lopresmb, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Its True , aside for the extensions, Safari seems a bit cleaner and also a bit faster for the mac.
- jessed, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Been done:
"I haven't dropped a lot of time into this since I came across it, but did ask around and was told it'd been reported as bug #4485821 in Apple's system. No clue as to the status/resolution."
- from http://www.drunkenblog.com/drunkenblog-archives/000760.html - prockcore, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I love how pissed off the comments are on drunken blog. They totally miss the point. The point is that the "image of doom" wasn't manufactured.. there are images all over the internet that have the same EXIF corruption and cause Safari to crash.
You could be browsing through flickr or images.google and crash your Safari... and it wasn't intentional.
Apple has huge incentive to fix this bug now.. and that's not always the case (there's an unrelated safari bug right now that Apple hasn't even acknowledged, let alone fixed). - kschramm, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Well to say that Webkit is tied to the OS isn't quite true. Webkit is a framework that is used by many apps (Safari, Mail, Dashboard, iChat, etc.), but it isn't tied to the OS any more so than other user-level frameworks.
This bug actually lies in ImageIO, which is in turn used by many frameworks including Webkit. So the blame doesn't really rest on the Safari or Webkit. - oferrer, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4I use both but I honestly like Safari's look and feel better. And like some people already said, it is not tied to the OS like IE is to Windows (You don't use safari to browse your filesystem or anything like that). I also feel safari is way more responsive on OS X. I do use Firefox on Windows and Linux tho and I like it.
I hope Apple gets a patch out soon, it does crash right away when clicking on that link! first time such thing has happened to my Safari. - The_Decryptor, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Well, for me Safari is faster than Firefox, renders better, etc.
And it's just another app, you can trash it if you want. (WebKit is a system component though, i'm sure you could remove it if you want but it would break programs) - smokebomb, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3If by "tied to the OS" you mean its a framework. You could just throw out WebKit. A lot of handy apps (like Adium) wouldn't draw as nicely however. The Finder would be ok.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Webkit is tied to the os. Safari is not, but Safari needs WebKit.
- astrosmash, on 10/12/2007, -4/+6> Do people use safari when firefox is available?
Yes, because Firefox isn't as polished on OS X as it is on Windows. OS X users can also use Camino, an app that predates Firefox, which uses the Mozilla/Firefox rendering engine wrapped in a native OS X application (That's how Firefox started, actually, as "Camino for Windows")
> Or has OSX tied it very closely to the OS?
I'm not sure what you mean. Out of the box, Safari is the default browser. And the Safari rendering engine (WebKit) is a standard system component that other applications depend on for rendering HTML. In that sense, it plays a similar role as IE on Windows. - t3hX, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2For those of you on Windows who are currently laughing, launch IE and click here:
http://ha.ckers.org/imagecrash.html
Now ell me that Microsoft is any better? - P0W3RMAC, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4On my iBook with the latest updates loads the page fine but halfway through it a dialogue box pops up and says that Safari quit unexpectedly. After I click "Try Again" the page finishes loading and that's it.
The Safari window never went away and I didn't loose any tabs.
Nothing really happened at all...
@mmm_linux - Haha! That's so true.
[PM] - wastern, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5mac applications do crash on occasion, less often the windows apps, but it still happens.
the difference is the whole OS doesn't crash because of a program crashing - treed, on 10/12/2007, -4/+6Programs crashing hasn't made Windows as a whole crash in like five years. Where the hell have you been? I hate Win as much as the next guy (Ubuntu on my desktop), but damn, get your FUD straight.
- StatusQuoRules, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2The difference is that it is not integrated.. and its more Mac like than firefox so people use Safari. Camino is more mac like than firefox too but it doesn't work with firefox extensions and Safari's RSS is sweet
- neondiet, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2
I have both Safari and Firefox, but use Safari 99% of the time. Firefox is a little bit faster than Safari (on a PowerBook G4 1.67Ghz with 1GB mem) but not so much that its a reason to use it.
For me, the reason I stick with Safari is the different scrolling experience between the two. Scrolling pages in Safari is a pleasant experience but in Firefox its jerky and so much harder to control.
Safari's default action is to scroll slowly at first. Individual scroll ball ticks scroll the page about 1/10th of a line. As you speed up your scroll action this increases dramatically. So you have the control to fly up and down the page at speed, or slowly traverse the page is a very smooth, easy to read manner.
Firefox's default scroll action is 3 lines per scroll click. You can adjust it down to 1 line, but it doesn't feel much better.
In summary, browsing in Safari is like riding along in a Rolls Royce. Where as Firefox feels like you're having your bones shaken loose in a Go-Kart.
- Tezkah, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3@paulmetzger
you can get lots of plugins for Safari now, http://pimpmysafari.com/plugins/ for a few. - sdfisher, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Yes, of course I use Safari. Firefox is a beautiful thing on Windows, but it sucks on the Mac. It isn't *just* that I have higher standards for the Mac, though I think that's part of it. It's also just generally lamer on the Mac.
- cheesetoe, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1In Terminal type:
rm Desktop/jag_towcar.jpg
to fix the Finder crash problem. - StatusQuoRules, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1All software has bugs... just depends how many. Mail never crashes at all for me
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1yeah if digg gets a other Mac Lib site im going to just take it down guys.
- riverrunner, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2This has been happening to me all week - mostly GIFS - even ones I created with Adobe Illustrator. VERY ANNONYING! crashes Safari, Mail and Finder - but oddly not Firefox. Apple needs to fix this soon.
- ewright, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1So i checked the problem with several other browsers just to see who else might be affected.
IE, Omni Web, firefox, camino, flock, opera, Netscape, were all unaffected.
However several other small relatively unknown browser were affected. Shira, Sunrise, Snapweb and iBrowser all cashed when opening the page. I am not sure if anyone out there actually uses these browsers but i had them on my comp and thought i would test them to see what would happen. About six months ago i decided to start testing all sorts of different alt browsers to see what else was out there and i never deleted all the ones I gathered.
I also dragged this to my desktop and nothing happen for me however it did crash preview.
I am using a dual G5 with a completely updated OS 10.4.5 - nato64, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3yay for sensible people! i agree with you totally. i LOVE macs. but all software has bugs. Apple's Mail.app crashes too much. but i love the integration with address book, iPhoto, etc. plus I think it looks gorgeous. Now, I think the world would be better off w/o Microsoft's IE, but that's just me. Firefox on Mac sucks, just plain ugly. Camino is FAST but I miss the .Mac sync that Safari provides.
- bonoes, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Man that sucks.
- vdubski, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2My Safari has been crashing randomly for about 6 months now. I've tried everything to fix it. Maybe it is somehow related to this? I switched to Camino when 1.0 was released because I was so sick of the crashing.
- wastern, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1it was said it only effects Tiger, you're safe. read.
- valkyries, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1this isnt just on Safari, theres a picture on my forum that crashes I.E. so we can try to keep some of the kiddies off it.
- paulmetzger, on 10/12/2007, -15/+16wow, what a jerk
- mandarin, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Err by the way Firefox runs in Windows, not all Windows users use IE you know?
Now go on and just listen to your ipod in the corner - vinbot, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Yup, sure enough it crashed Safari on my MacBook running OS 10.4.5. I know many like to slag Safari, but it works fine for me with 99.9 percent of the website I come across. Safari has definitely improved since when it was first released.
- maverick808, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Err by the way FireFox, Camino and more web browsers than you can count run in OS X, not all OSX users use Safari you know?
- keesj, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0It didn't crash anything, using Mac OS X 10.3.9, Safari 1.3.2.. anyway, some sort of heads up would be nice in the title.
- sdfisher, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Just curious: Would the Windows fans be the Mac developer who submitted the story (that's me) or the Mac developer who found it?
- keesj, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0ah k, thnx.. i read an other article yesterday which didn't state, I presumed this article would contain the same information.. my bad
- hungarianhc, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Wow that's funny... just tried it - yup, crashed safari...
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