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- cuevas4711, on 10/24/2009, -5/+86I'm a Mac, and I use windows.
- Misterberu, on 10/23/2009, -3/+63..I've been using Windows 7 just fine through boot camp ever since the RC was released?
- AdmiralAcbar, on 10/23/2009, -0/+55I don't know. Have you?
- Chiefsfan42, on 10/24/2009, -0/+43I'm Ron Burgundy?
- CanIGetAWitness, on 10/24/2009, -17/+51I think Apple needs to finally change their ad campaign. It is about time Mac advertises on its own merits and not on Windows faults/history. Until then, Mac will get no respect and I wouldn't care if Windows can run on them.
/macalites will bury me - BREZZZ, on 10/24/2009, -4/+31More like 1 computer with 2 OSes, for the price of 1 computer with 2 OSes.
- lennyp75, on 10/24/2009, -4/+28So you can use both?
- Oinkie, on 10/24/2009, -11/+33I wonder if you can "Boot Camp" OSX in Microsoft's new OS? Oh wait, that makes it illegal.
- Roundbadge, on 10/24/2009, -4/+26I'm a Mac, and I run windows, ubuntu and OS X.
- Ouze, on 10/24/2009, -6/+27more like one computer for the price of two, amirite?
- strangewill, on 10/24/2009, -10/+26I like pretty hardware, I regularly open my computer to just look at it.
And masturbate. - MacHarborGuy, on 10/24/2009, -0/+15I have been using the RC for Windows 7 in boot camp with two minor issues.
1, the RC networking drivers don't seem to handle re-upping a DHCP lease from the router and instead just loses it's connection.
2) full screen games don't render at the proper resolution. If I select a resolution smaller than the monitors native res, (i am using an imac), I get a black border around the smaller viewport.
Both of these could simply be driver issues, but my network and graphics hardware are both reporting that they are the latest drivers, even after attempting to install the apparent latest drivers from the manufacturers websites. The iMac is the 2006 Intel Core 2 model (not Core 2 Duo).
Setting my routers lease time for DHCP to a much higher number fixes the networking problem for the most part, but the graphics driver issues have been preventing me from enjoying TF2 like I have been able to do for the past 2 years. - Chris_F, on 10/24/2009, -1/+15I'm a person, but my ThinkPad runs GNU/Linux
- BossKey, on 10/24/2009, -1/+12I prefer Macs, but in my job I sometimes have to run Windows software, like take screen shots, test some things, etc.
I don't use Boot Camp though because what I need to do is achievable by running Windows in virtualization right alongside my Mac apps.
Who said this had to be either/or, anyway? What's wrong with, as an earlier poster said, running Mac, Windows, and command-line Unix apps in the same session? Isn't that the ultimate freedom of choice, the biggest possible software library? - Awesomebox5000, on 10/24/2009, -0/+11He didn't say his work couldn't be done on a pc, just prefers OS X for work and home use. It's a choice that the hardcore users (on all sides) tend not to even consider.
- birch25, on 10/24/2009, -0/+11The ability to run pretty much any operating system on the market (OSX, Windows, Linux) on the same computer is a selling point. My computer spends about 80% of its time on OSX but when I want to play a game or try something out in Windows I reboot and no more than 2 minutes later I am quite literally running a Windows machine.
- WhiteRaven, on 10/24/2009, -5/+16I would be happy if Mac marketing just didn't lie about Windows. If it could point out some legitimate faults....
I will never get over the irony of an ad about the money Microsoft spends on marketing paid for by the money Apple uses on marketing. - MrJonson, on 10/24/2009, -0/+11My statement is ambiguous because it ends on a question mark?
- Awesomebox5000, on 10/24/2009, -1/+11There are some specific needs where Windows is required. Some people have to use it for work and don't want to carry around two computers. I like gaming, but also prefer OS X as my primary OS so I boot into Windows when I wanna play vid'ya games if a Cider port doesn't exist or doesn't work well.
- AngelBunny, on 10/24/2009, -7/+16-professional grade multimedia is cheaper using a mac. (professional grade equipement on windows requires you to buy multi thousand dollar external hardware with a multi thousand dollar software suite.)
-if your a dev a mac will let you program for all environments which is needed generally for open source unless you're cli only.
-if you do any number crunching scientific work then 9 out of 10 times you will need a mac for cloud computing unless you plan to pay out the ass for some software package or spend all your time writing your own.
-if you write a lot of long documents using an OS with stable drivers is a must unless you want to loose all of your work. I admit, a mac isn't required for this but it helps A LOT.
I could go on too... - badqat, on 10/24/2009, -4/+12I've had Windows 7 set up dual boot on my Macbook Pro through Boot Camp for nearly two months.
- scootinger, on 10/24/2009, -4/+12Nobody pays $1000 (or anywhere near that amount) to use OS X. It's downright stupid to claim that a $2000 Mac is equivalent to a $1000 PC, or that a $1000 MacBook is equivalent to a $500 cheapo laptop. The hardware is completely different, and you would be paying close to the amount for a Mac if you looked at a PC with hardware that was REALLY equivalent. Please get your facts straight before making such an assertion.
- Awesomebox5000, on 10/24/2009, -4/+12You don't buy a mac SO you can install Windows. You buy a mac because you don't want to use Windows as your primary OS, but sometimes there isn't a mac equivelant app. Games in particular are why I have a dual-boot setup.
- phpchris, on 10/24/2009, -0/+7Are you sure?
- DaviDTC, on 10/24/2009, -1/+8Apple has pledged to support Windows 7 by the end of the year, for those Apple computer users that want to dual install the latest OS's from both Apple and Microsoft on their Macs.
Win 7support for Macs should be here by the end of the year, for those Apple waverers that like to have the option to dabble on both sides of the fence.
Apple will support Microsoft Windows 7 (Home Premium, Professional, and Ultimate) with Boot Camp in Mac OS X Snow Leopard before the end of the year.
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First 3 paragraphs are just a little redundant. - Misterberu, on 10/23/2009, -0/+7Looks like.
- cor315, on 10/24/2009, -0/+6A lot of the users in my office that have macs use boot camp or parallel desktop because there are certain programs they have that only work with windows but don't use them enough to consider only using a windows laptop.
- Lightstab, on 10/24/2009, -1/+7The Vista drivers for Boot Camp seem to work well for MacBooks, but not completely for iMacs.
- Awesomebox5000, on 10/24/2009, -2/+8That's because Windows is licensed to run on any computer that meets the sys reqs (and even some that don't). Apple only licenses its OS to run on Apple hardware. Microsoft could ***** up Boot Camp by stipulating that their OS not be allowed to run on Apple hardware but that would just cut into sales (not a lot, but every little bit helps)
- XenoSNK, on 10/24/2009, -0/+6I've been dual booting for the past month. They're a lot quicker than they even know.
- Subduction, on 10/24/2009, -19/+25Actually, when you're running Windows you're a PC, except you paid twice as much for the same hardware because it was made by Apple.
- inactive, on 10/24/2009, -0/+6In a word: Yes.
You want OSX, you get a Mac. It's just a fringe benefit that they can now run Windows natively, and on top of that they include a wizard (BootCamp) to make it easy to setup. - trogdor8667, on 10/24/2009, -1/+7Title is very misleading. Windows 7 is NOT currently supported in boot camp. It will be later this year.
Yes, it still will work, I'm running it now. But it's not currently supported - ErickStevenson, on 10/24/2009, -12/+17HAHAHA ur funny, seriously? I don't think you get it.... PC can play GAMES! AND have a plathora of applications work on it as well.... all of that you just posted have PC equivalent PLUS third p[arty freeware.... people like you is why I hate MACboys....
- spworm, on 10/24/2009, -3/+8Actualy when you're running osx, your apple is still just a pc.
- TheAbsintheHare, on 10/24/2009, -3/+8It's like if your job is cleaning sewage systems. Yes, you do enjoy walking around in a well lit city, with fresh air and clean clothes, but your job requires that you climb around in dark, damp sewers, cleaning people's waste. You do this job so you have money to continue your city life.
My point is nobody uses Windows because they like Windows. They use Windows because they are required to, to do the things they want to do. However, Mac users use Macs because they like (love) OS X. So much so, that they were willing to sacrifice things like being able to play any game they want, not be able to just build a computer for cheaper than a prebuilt one from Apple, or run certain software. However, now with things like Parallels and Bootcamp, and the fact that you can build a Mac just like you can build a PC, that's no longer the case. So, now the question is why would anyone run just Windows. I want to be at ease (get it? Mac joke) with my computing experience, not fighting with it to get things done. - mrBitch, on 10/24/2009, -3/+8While it's fun to install OSX on a PC or Dell mini netbook, you tend to now have the same problems you get with Windows.
Fore example, the hackintosh OSX works 90% of the time, but some small issues like wireless drivers and sleep/hibernate support don't work correctly.
When you run OSX on a specific Mac hardware, you get a better experience than you do with running Windows on generic PC hardware. - Lightstab, on 10/24/2009, -1/+6Handbrake on Windows doesn't work for commercial DVDs because of Windows DRM, so it's kind of useless.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/pacman3000/3816960299 ... - Lightstab, on 10/24/2009, -15/+20Better design, MacBooks are lighter and have better battery life than PC laptops, the ability to run OS X apps like iLife, Logic Studio and Final Cut Pro Studio, Handbrake, Coda, Textmate. It's nice to have just about every great app from both Windows and OS X worlds, available to you.
- Nephersir7, on 10/24/2009, -3/+8I'm a PC and i run Windows, Ubuntu, and OS X
- AngelBunny, on 10/24/2009, -1/+6Article buried. With bootcamp 3.0 win7 is officially supported for 32 bit. I expect this article to mean the 64 bit bootcamp versions but it says nothing of the sort. This article is misleading if not completely wrong.
- AlienMushroom, on 10/24/2009, -1/+6You either need to update your video card driver or set your screen properly.
- huggybarrel, on 10/24/2009, -0/+5or you could just run it natively, since you obviously have to use it to post on Digg.
- therightclique, on 10/24/2009, -1/+6That isn't how apostrophes work.
- vibrokatana, on 10/24/2009, -0/+5Grub doesn't work with EFI. Prior to boot camp you could use a patched ELILO to boot linux (and I think windows partitions).
- rnawky, on 10/24/2009, -3/+8Right. People don't realize Apple is REALLY bad at programming. Why else did they have to use BSD as a base for OSX. Remember how ***** OS 9 was? That's what happens when Apple tries to make something.
iPhone runs off BSD as well. Apple just leeches off other peoples work to create something "new and revolutionary" - zephc, on 10/24/2009, -8/+12I use Windows (Win 7 RC) for games, and I use OS X for work and to be productive. It's a nice balance.
- mrBitch, on 10/24/2009, -0/+4@ Elranzer, RE: " .. Handbrake is on Windows too."
Yeah, true. While originally developed on BeOS, and then for many years after on OS X, the Handbrake team finally developed a Windows version.
The nice thing about using Handbrake on OSX, is that HandBrake on the Mac will gladly rip many DVDs even WITH copy protection.
On Windows, you need to have something like DVDfab, or some other CSS breaking app running... - gamepr0, on 10/24/2009, -1/+5@doctordbx: UNIX is pretty useful for development for example.
- nohoy, on 10/24/2009, -4/+8Personally I'm still waiting for them to support the older versions of windows on the macbook. With an alluminum macbook running vista ultimate in bootcamp I could barely use the built in touch pad. Even after a big driver update I only get intermittent use of the right click with some very sketchy actual trackpad use. Which wasn't the only driver issue, most notably the power management. But the trackpad renders bootcamp utterly useless.
Worst of all, if you buy a macbook (not pro) you CANNOT use bootcamp with a 64 bit OS due to artificial rules created by apple. I totally missed this (and so did the guy at the apple store who sold it to me) until well after I had brought it home and tried to dual boot.
So I really hope, for me at least, that "supporting" windows 7 actually means more than a half assed effort to make it barely usable. -
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