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- rebotfc, on 10/11/2007, -14/+184Awesome update, though a voucher for a free leopard upgrade would of been nice.
- plucas, on 10/11/2007, -1/+169Only the 15 inch is LED. "The new MacBook Pro is available in 15-inch models with a new mercury-free, power-efficient LED-backlit display and a 17-inch model with an optional high-resolution display."
- almalax19, on 10/11/2007, -1/+161Top of the line 15.4" specs, old/new:
2.33 GHz to 2.4 GHz
667 MHz FSB to 800 MHz
3GB RAM max to 4GB
120GB HD to 160GB (160GB 7200 rpm option!)
6x SuperDrive to 8x
Radeon X1600 to GeForce 8600M GT (great upgrade!)
CCFL backlight to LED
5.6 lbs. to 5.4 (3.2 oz. lighter!)
5 hr. max batt life to 6 hrs. - dantidote, on 10/11/2007, -20/+149ordered mine; my first mac. I cant wait!
- mobilehavoc, on 10/11/2007, -43/+163Why can't we all just get along? The MBPs are very very nice laptops. I however just recently purchased (6 months ago) a Sony VAIO SZ laptop for $1800 that has a Intel Core2Duo T7200, 13.3" 1280x800 res LED backlight display, Nvidia 7400/Intel 950 hybrid graphics, 2GB RAM, 120GB 5400RPM HD, DVD Dual-layer burner, built in web cam with mic, 802.11a/b/g, BT 2.0, EDGE WWAN, etc. and it weighs ~ 4lbs. Also I would say it looks pretty damm sexy being carbon fiber and all.
So don't knock non-Apple notebooks until you've done your research. - geminitojanus, on 10/11/2007, -16/+114@scaper
That's a concept laptop, not a production model. - TheProtested, on 10/11/2007, -27/+109the macbook pro just keeps getting sexier.
- magicaltrevor, on 10/11/2007, -5/+821920*1200 on a Macbook Pro? Time to sell the old kidney...
- drakino, on 10/11/2007, -12/+84Ahh yes, here comes the "Macs are so expensive" crowd. Guess what, that hasn't been true for a long time. Yes, some Mac laptops like these cost $2k and up. Guess what, Dell has laptops over 2k, as does many other vendors. And if you compare one spec for spec, Apple prices usually sit right in the same spot as everyone else. Sometimes they are cheeper, sometimes a bit more, but never hugely expensive when compared to the competition.
The main difference is Apple makes very few models, and keeps their systems towards the high end of the market. Don't like it? Don't buy them just as you probably won't buy a high end Dell. Sure, that $600 plastic cheaply built laptop might serve your needs, but some people expect more.
I can't do a direct comparison with Dell yet since their Santa Rosa systems aren't on the site yet, but if the comparison is similar to when the Mac Pro or MacBook Pro came out, Apple will be noticeably cheeper for the same thing. My MacBook Pro (Core Duo model) would have cost me $300 more for the same spec laptop from Dell when I bought it. Yes, Dell would have cost me more money. And still been a cheep plastic case. - inactive, on 10/11/2007, -100/+169Legendoflink is a cheapskate :)
enjoy your tacky windows laptop with its row of gaudy pointless LEDs and its ***** tacky curvy case that trise to hide its fatness - spiffywilco, on 10/11/2007, -2/+70I'll miss you mercury... sweet, sweet mercury.
- TheWorm, on 10/11/2007, -6/+59Gorgeous as it is, part of me was really wanting to see a new case. They've had that same design for years.
- SgtBlue, on 10/11/2007, -14/+59They are LED backlit displays on the 15 inch models, check your facts.
- EBFoxbat, on 10/11/2007, -11/+56"1920 x 1200 15.4" displays"
Who want want to be able to read text anyway. :/ - RAiNsTorm, on 10/11/2007, -2/+41Apple has finally won my business. My silent list of demands has been hit spot on. I can actually replace 3 computers in my home right now with this one laptop. My main PC which is a media server, game box. My HTPC in the living room. And finally my 15in laptop used while sitting on the couch or outside/travel.
I needed a mac that could run windows (damn work), play games (dx10), have 2gb of RAM, a decent HDD, excellent battery life, and I wanted Santa Rosa and LED backlighting. I'm on the fence about possibly waiting for the next incarnation of OS X for Time machine before jumping in, but either way this is finally my jumping in point. Just gained another customer. - mobilehavoc, on 10/11/2007, -4/+43Impressive they upped the default memory config on these to 2GB...and the Nvidia 8600M GT graphics card is a capable DX10 chipset.
Too bad just bought a laptop... - inactive, on 10/11/2007, -4/+37My TiBook is still going strong, silky smooth with expose and such, with only 800mhz :)
TAKE THAT VISTA! - l33tsauce, on 10/11/2007, -9/+38Whoever said that the new mac pro is expensive gotta be smoking crack. Have you try to configure a similar spec laptop from Dell, HP, Alienware, Acer, Sony? They usually cost more and is about half as nice looking. Do yourself a favor, go to the student discount section, you can get any mac pro for $200 cheaper, plus a $200 rebate if you buy a Nano with your mac pro. Thats $2300 for the best laptop that money can buy plus a Nano :) Thats a pretty sweet deal IMO.
BTW: before people crying fanboy, I've been a windows user for almost 10 years and counting. - webmasterjoe, on 10/11/2007, -2/+29@kurisuku: "2k for a laptop is silly.... This counts especially when you make roughly 200 a month."
$200 a month? As in $2400/year?
I don't know if you're a student or something, but that's mighty low. I don't think many companies are going to be concerned with fitting their products into a budget like that. I don't want come across as mean (you certainly could have circumstances that prevent you from getting a better job or more hours), but really, I don't think you can counter the price of a laptop with an income that is roughly $12K below the poverty line.
And $2K for a laptop is reasonable if you need a laptop with these specs. If you work in A/V or graphic design, for example, the cost is worth the freedom to render video or bounce audio tracks while you're on location (or going to/from a location). - Braxo, on 10/11/2007, -20/+46@legend
I'll take my Macbook pro any day. Its more expensive because I can run dual screens with windows on one and mac os x on the other at the same time on the same laptop. Can yours? - RealityCheque, on 10/11/2007, -5/+30Even your mother doesn't read your ***** blog.
- rocnrollbandit, on 10/11/2007, -29/+54This is awesome. I've been waiting for SR and the LED displays.
- jer2eydevil88, on 10/11/2007, -1/+25The screen uses most of the energy from the battery and since these are now LED backlit they will be much easier on battery life.
- geminitojanus, on 10/11/2007, -14/+38"something macs just don't offer"
A) Bunches of game companies make games for both PC and Mac. You'd actually be surprised how many do if you picked up a few random titles and flipped them over.
B) Macs can boot and virtualize PC OSes now, so any game you have access to on your PC, you've got access to on your Mac. [This would technically make the Mac a superior gaming machine, as there are games available for Macs that aren't available elsewhere, yet your Mac can now run any Windows or Linux game].
C) That troll is as old as time itself.
-1 for your efforts. - SgtBlue, on 10/11/2007, -3/+26The 17" displays aren't LED-backlit though, just to clear that up.
That's nice, I didn't want to lug around a big ol' 17" MBP anyway. Same graphics card and vram between the two models, exactly what I was hoping for. Woohoo! - Gameflyer, on 10/11/2007, -6/+28WTF, adding 2 GBs of RAM costs $750!?
- quik22, on 10/11/2007, -1/+20"their are"??? my god.
- kdjsmith, on 10/11/2007, -1/+20Anybody else notice the max RAM spec is now 4GB instead of 3GB...?
I assume SantaRosa doesn't have the same memory mapping issues as the last chipset? - Utku, on 10/11/2007, -26/+4417-inch has an optional high-resolution display at 1920x1200
they are not LED displays - neuropsychguy, on 10/11/2007, -1/+19"My tower is a FULL 2 years old and cost less than these"
And you look really cool carrying in around in a backpack or using it in the coffee shop. - inactive, on 10/11/2007, -1/+19You have to buy sometime.
- RAiNsTorm, on 10/11/2007, -2/+19What in the hell would I get dug down for?? Just in case it is being done blindly by Windows or *nix fans, rest assured I am a 100% platform agnostic guy and believe in using the right tool for the right job. I run 4 Linux servers, an Ubuntu desktop, and my main rig is Windows XP Pro.
I was making a simple statement, totally true, that magically Apple managed to hit everything I needed in a single machine which is something no one else has done as of yet. I'm no fanboy for anyone or any company. This is one of the biggest problems with Digg. - crammaz, on 10/11/2007, -15/+32Lucky bastard!
It will be a great expierence!!
*hugs macbook* - zodieman, on 10/11/2007, -3/+19Resolution independence is coming in Leopard. Bring on the high-rez displays, at least we'll look a lot better and have readable text...
- zeejay, on 10/11/2007, -3/+19@andrewsmith1986
That's no longer a valid objection. If you want non-Blizzard games, just install Windows on it... duh. - Thud, on 10/11/2007, -2/+17You can still have mercury in the 17-inch model (which is still backlit by CCFL).
Screw you, environment! - Kurisuku, on 10/11/2007, -13/+27Now if only they upgrade the GPU on the regular macbook. *sigh.*
2k for a laptop is silly.... This counts especially when you make roughly 200 a month. - UKsHaDoW, on 10/11/2007, -0/+14Actually openGL is faster than Directx because of com interface Directx uses. About 20% faster. Having to use a kernel-mode switch every time its sends a command.
But this is irrelevant as polygons are now sent as batches in one function call, on both API's. So there are not enough of these DirectX commands being executed to make a big difference.
The moral of the story is that there pretty much the same, just some Directx commands are slower, if Directx had a intermediate mode as openGL does ,then directx would be very slow, but doesn't and all drawing is using vertex buffers.
So you pretty much don't know what your talking about, until you've actually tried graphics programming(this is my job). - Muzz27, on 10/11/2007, -2/+16Just bought one to replace my Powerbook G4, overcome by blindness after a tragic fall 3 months ago. The old boy was only 3 years and 6 months old. God rest his soul...
- thebman990, on 10/11/2007, -1/+15It looks like they're doing the free-iPod-with-a-Mac thing for students again, too.
- Radan, on 10/11/2007, -0/+14Though I might be completely wrong here, I think I read somewhere that part from also giving you a longer battery life and a lighter computer, it also presents slightly better colors, especially in the darker areas.
- FuzzyBunny, on 10/11/2007, -1/+14Interesting... When pricing the 2.4 ghz 15 inch model, if you switch from the standard screen to the glossy screen it reduces the price by $150. Does anyone know if this has to do with the LED backlighting or is it just a glitch on the site?
- SgtBlue, on 10/11/2007, -0/+13That's just a glitch on the order config page, it corrects itself with the real correct price on the Shopping Cart.
- UKsHaDoW, on 10/11/2007, -2/+15openGL surports Directx 10 features, through nvidia extensions.
- bonjovisucks, on 10/11/2007, -1/+14I purchased the ADC Student membership for $99 which includes a one-time ADC Hardware Discount of %20. It's an even better deal than the Educational Discount.
- spiffywilco, on 10/11/2007, -0/+12Yeah, well, my TiBook broke this past week, finally after 7 years of active duty. It was the 500MHz TiBook, otherwise known as the first one they made. It worked till literally last week, when I dropped it one too many times and the screen broke off. It ran expose... actually pretty well, and it was chillin with 10.4.
(sigh) It was sooooo good to me these past years. Time to sell the airport card for a cool 80$ - taintedzodiac, on 10/11/2007, -3/+15Don't throw Apples in with Soylent Green.
- Simplex42, on 10/11/2007, -3/+15> There are many many many fine laptops that can run Vista, better features and less price.
Name them. List how they match every feature of a Macbook pro. Not just some subset of features, but all of them.
If you make a claim, back it up. - stealthdave, on 10/11/2007, -2/+14@sirg3
Dad? - jesstech, on 10/11/2007, -6/+17'Featuring Intel pcessors!'
At least Apple is human just like the rest of us. -
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