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- Trat, on 10/12/2007, -5/+65You're not interested in the 64bit Kernel, Time Machine, Safari 3?
- cds0528, on 10/12/2007, -4/+63i'm not really sure why they dedicated 8 screenshots to terminal settings...
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -7/+46thats not much of a gallery at all!
- dscx, on 10/12/2007, -5/+38http://thinksecret.com.nyud.net:8080/archives/leopard9a343/ coral cache
- Ireland, on 10/12/2007, -6/+37Most boring gallery yet, I think I'll just wait for Leopard to get a real look at it. Tabs in the terminal, wow now I see how Leopard took over two years to produce. I think there will be a nice number of hidden surprises that will be in the final build, including a new Finder and a new UI.
- iFlop, on 10/12/2007, -10/+36Apple shouldn't hurry too much with leopard. They should take some time to make it stable as the current Tiger..
And what about that new interface, that is rumored for quite some time? - grubwort, on 10/12/2007, -1/+27ly.
- sorahn, on 10/12/2007, -5/+30http://thinksecret.com/archives/leopard9a343/ Direct link to the gallery.
- SLH06, on 10/12/2007, -0/+20That has got to be the ugliest X11 icon they could think of.
- insideyourhalo, on 10/12/2007, -3/+22a tabbed terminal and 16 virtual desktops is pretty relevant to any one who uses a computer for work.
- TheWorm, on 10/12/2007, -1/+19"And what about that new interface, that is rumored for quite some time?"
At this time they're just using the Tiger skin for secrecy. - crypticgeek, on 10/12/2007, -5/+22Most exciting gallery of dialog boxes ever.
- jamesong, on 10/12/2007, -4/+20@iq70
hmmm. Considering OS X was not released till March of 2001. I see what you are trying to get at, but if you were actually a mac user, new or old, you would notice the changes in each 10.x upgrade.
Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mac_OS_X#Mac_OS_X_10.0_.28Cheetah.29 - samdu, on 10/12/2007, -2/+16At least it wasn't 25 pictures of the parental controls.
- Koyder, on 10/12/2007, -1/+13Looking at that X11 icon, I am seriously beginning to worry about the direction Apple's designers are taking. Even if it's just a placeholder, it's a very ugly placeholder.
- Chroder, on 10/12/2007, -7/+19The UI is a very important thing. Users have spent many years working with this interface, you can't just screw around with it (Vista, anyone?). The UI is already great, so it's something that I care about least in terms of updates. If all you want is eye candy, download ShapeShifter and change your theme every 6 months.
I will welcome 64bit and innovating features over some new UI any day; features will save me time, a UI will only be cool until the novelty wears off. - repruhsent, on 10/12/2007, -0/+12What's so hard about command + Q?
- austindkelly, on 10/12/2007, -15/+26Finder, sucks my hole. I love all that is Mac in general, but please please do something with the finder, it is the worst navigation ever. This is where they should be ripping ideas from Vista/XP.
- alex189a, on 10/12/2007, -14/+24Besides being a troll, you have a point. OSX is getting on in years and this new version doesn't have anything that interests me. A good portion of Mac people are concerned first and foremost with the user interface and rearranging a few things doesn't count- give me another feature like Expose.
- ph3wl, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10Its a pain in the ass when these stories end up being slow/broken. I mean, I check digg 20 times a day... after I weed through the crap that is on the front page and find a story that is interesting... its broke/slow/digged. Just sucks. Felt like whining today :/
- rspeed, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11@tutivlahos
Well played. Welllll played. - aftk2, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9Maybe they made it ugly so that it should be obvious it's X11.
- Trat, on 10/12/2007, -4/+13That's why they delayed it for 2007...
- hybrid8, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10"When you have 2 - 3 shells open everyday it does make a difference. Its about time they did something for the *NIX geeks!"
real "*NIX geeks" use screen - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11if apple can keep the iPhone(and ipod for that matter) look and interface secret from its seperate departments, then it can keep anything secret outside of Apple
- rollercoaster37, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8It doesn't make sense. Close buttons are obviously linked to the windows that they belong to. Of course, in one-windowed applications (such as the iApps) the close button should close the application (and indeed it does in some of them, notably iPhoto)
- sketchydave, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10"Tabs in the terminal, wow"
Way overdue. I've always liked this feature in Ubuntu and other Linux distros, but I like the font settings and anti-aliasing in Terminal. When you have 2 - 3 shells open everyday it does make a difference. Its about time they did something for the *NIX geeks! - reggiedarden, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6I can't believe they went with the Matrix look on the terminal icon.
- Greyarea, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Actually I quite liked the look of the new Network Settings panel...
- bitswapper, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7The gallery doesn't show much. As far as the interface goes, I'd be more interested in more consistent functionality, like making the navigation services just like finder with respect to how you want to view things. It'd also be kind of nice to have some kind of Apple-sanctioned gui for something like 'advanced gui tweeks', or something along those lines. Also stop pushing .Mac on the install. Sheesh.
- magicmarc, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7Use a quicksilver trigger :)
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5It could very well be a placeholder. The programmers don't do the final art in OS X, that's left to a professional team. When the programmers are creating something new or making changes, they may throw in a quickly photoshopped icon to hold for later.
- DarkSideofMoon, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7Cmd-Tab to the Finder, then hit Cmd-N.
Not sure if that's what you're looking for (or if you knew that already), but I use it all the time. - Patranus, on 10/12/2007, -1/+69A343 is in no way ready for prime time. It is extremely fast(run my test system on a G4/1.66ghz/512mb-ram) but still has many MANY bugs.
All of the UI elements are much more "springy" and responsive (com had trouble with dashboard loading slowly in 10.4)
The new terminal.app with tabs is an amazing improvement. Tabed terminals really help especially if you are ssh'ing into several different computers.
Safari is a slight improvement over its previous version, I however stick with Firefox. The added google search to invalid URLs is nice but nothing to wright home about. Safari seems to load pages faster.
The new mail is nice, but it seems to crash a lot. I really like Mail's build in RSS reader. iCal is also improved with more integration with mail. Both applications feature the new 'gradient' based menu bar styling.
The two new main features that will be relevant to many users is the new network.prefPane and bluetooth.prefPane. Both are more user friendly (especially the Bluetooth) adding a list-service style of management. A bug in the networking is that it seems to dislike auto-joining networks and remembering encryption keys. I am however sure that this will be taken care of for the final release.
iChat is also improved with 'hover away messages' and away messages displaying in the buddy list. It has also added an 'invisible' mode to the availability menu in the buddy list but not the menubar menu. It does include the new 'gradient' based menu bar system. Bug - The menu bar icon does not turn black when on line and gray when off line - stays gray.
The new quick look is cool but it does not provide that great of a feature. There should be an option to use it instead of defaulting to preview. Preview is also a lot faster especially while rendering large PDF files(I love preview - any format any time/conversion - no need to load bulky Photoshop for simple file-type conversion).
Spaces is amazing especially while programming (one screen for product the other for code). It switches VERY fast.
The new DVD player is a nice addition.
Many applications are still extremely buggy. Slingbox player crashes much of the time.
If you want more details/specific screen shots replay to this post. - DonCarcharo, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6I've purchased every version of the Mac OS the day it was released since system 7.5 but so far Leopard has me on the fence. Granted Apple seems more focused on refining the Mac OS instead of inventing new features, however the refinements so far just don't address my needs. I'd like to see:
1. A new Finder with a unified theme. I'm not talking flash here, just consistency.
2. Better networking. I think the networking is Vista is great. It discovers everything on my network, even my Macs. Meanwhile my Macs sometimes can't even discover other Macs...
3. FTP write access in the Finder. Please, this has to be so easy to add and it annoys me that it's not there. I want to be able to read and write FTP shares directly in the Finder.
4. Improved memory management on Intel systems. Maybe this one is just me but my Intel Macs use more RAM. I suspect this has everything to do with Rosetta but I just purchased a 20" iMac and I'm constantly paging with 2GB of RAM. Fair enough since I run some big apps but either give me more ram slots or make Rosetta's memory management more efficient. Do you know how much a 2GB stick of RAM costs for a dual core iMac? - Kelmon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5@trat
One of the biggest selling points for me will be Xcode 3 and access to Objective-C 2.0. However, I have to say that 64-bit computing will be pretty much useless to anyone outside of the scientific/statistics community (big Yay! for anyone in those communities, mind) and I have very limited interest in Safari 3 based on the currently available information. Time Machine will have a major impact for me and the updates to Mail look very promising (with the exception of nasty HTML templates), but the major benefits to Leopard look to be under-the-hood changes. Personally, I am still expecting this to be a very significant release but I'm not holding my breath for the "Secret Features" since I'm pretty sure they'd have been announced by now if they were that groundbreaking, particularly considering that Vista has already shipped. - Darcy, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7@ ruyn, For me Vista actually runs a lot smoother than OSX.4 on the exact same hardware. I'm sorry if this doesn't fit in with what you want to believe, I suppose you would rather believe the FUD stories rather than someone who has used both and found Vista's performance to be really good.
- thereisnospoon, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5@alex189a
Spaces is enough for me! - Jimzip, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6@ tutiviahos
I hate you.
@ austindkelly
I'm afraid I'll have to disagree with you there.. Finder's got a great nav system. Moreso if discover the magic of shortcuts you do..
Jimzip :D - Kelmon, on 10/12/2007, -4/+8I'm digging you up because, despite being a happy Mac owner, I agree that most Apple news items that appear here tend to be very dull at the moment. February is definitely Slow Mac News Month this year and it's nice to finally have something worthwhile to talk about.
- skribble, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Lame Screenshots, yes, but the changes to the Terminal.app will be pleasant to those that spend much time in it. Honestly, while there have been few outward features *announced* in Leopard, some of the under the hood stuff is impressive. It's these behind the scenes changes that enable developers (and Apple) to create better applications that do more and work faster. Seriously getting too wrapped up in interfaces is a bit silly (though I do hope Apple does, at least, standardize on a particular look for it's apps) , usability is what matters. Besides the new Frameworks,File system (and silly gadgets like Time Machine), subtler things, like improvements in Spotlight, will be what really in time makes this OS worthwhile. Its also these subtle but nice improvements that really makes the difference in usability and ultimately is why many people prefer the Mac OS over Windows. (FWIW I use *both* Mac OS X and Windows on similarly speced hardware (currently: Core Duo MBP vs Core Duo Dell Inspiron) and can say that while both Windows and Mac OS have there share of annoyances, OS X gets more stuff right then windows (both as a user and developer*... (*though MS is much more likely to listen to developers then Apple)).
- fyngyrz, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5No, clicking on the Finder icon only launches ONE window; once one is open, it won't launch another. Which is annoying, because quite often you want two windows open for dragging files around. You have to use the Finder menu, or Apple-N *after* you change the context to the FInder from whatever application you're currently running. I concur with the original poster, it would be very useful to have a key combination to launch a new finder window no matter what context you were in.
And just generally speaking, Finder is the weakest part of OSX. Explorer is much better. Sorry, I'm a huge Apple fan, but Finder isn't up to par. PathFinder (an OSX Finder replacement) is much, much better, I highly recommend it. - meatmcguffin, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Maybe they made it ugly so that it should be obvious it's a placeholder
- SLH06, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I agree on the icon but I have been enjoying the new UI in iTunes and other products from Apple like the iPhone. I find the new path Apple has taken with its interfaces to be great. Down with Aqua!
- eyestosky, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4I think that it is smart that the whole program doesn't quit when you close a window. Just think, if all of the iApps quit when you press the close window button, you would have to have an iTunes window open all of the time to listen to music, that would be ridiculous even if you minimize the window.
- Kelmon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3@fyngyrz
This is going to sounds incredibly wussy but I find PathFinder to be overkill. Finder definitely has flaws but it is simple and easy to use whereas I found PathFinder to be rather confusing. I don't doubt that the power-users will find benefit in PathFinder but for the Average Joe it just isn't needed. Personally, I'd be quite happy with Finder if I just had the ability to sort the contents of a folder so that subfolders within it appear at the top of the listing rather than in alphabetical order within the files of the folder. - NSResponder, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Did you happen to read the NDA you agreed to when you signed up with the Apple Developer Connection? (Of course, if you're not an ADC member, then you didn't obtain 9A343 legally.)
-jcr - dpcamp, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4are they planning on changing the gui at all? I'm kinda over it looking so bubbly.
- Frost9999, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5I like the screensaver that takes photos using isight and puts them on the screen. Neat idea but not worthy of an upgrade.
- gsnedders, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Apple doesn't have two OS groups anymore – they were merged into one after 10.3.
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