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- keithmcbride, on 01/10/2008, -0/+17Nobody mentioning the open-source client Vienna? It seems like everything I need in a reader.
- cawpin, on 01/10/2008, -0/+15It's free now. You're not allowed to complain about it anymore.
- jklikesnews, on 01/10/2008, -0/+11Yeah, but the guy who released it is the same one who released Inquisitor and Xtorrent. He has some questionable ethics that I don't wish to support. That being said, NetNewsWire is the way to go for my situation.
- etandrib, on 01/10/2008, -0/+11Did you read the headline?
- Konstantino, on 01/10/2008, -1/+8Recently it's been confirmed that his freeware app, Inquisitor, said to produce google results, has been showing sponsors results first. Also, he makes you pay for full versions of most his apps, including Xtorrent which uses Transmission's source code as a base, and Acquisition.
- Mejogid, on 01/10/2008, -0/+7I personally have no problem with people pirating, for example, Windows, MS Office or Photoshop, since they're extremely high priced, profit from OEM's and businesses and made by large cooperation. However, when a small development team releases a high quality application for a reasonable price and relies (often for their living) on users paying a reasonable amount for their software, I think you should either pony up the cash or use a free alternative. The personal use argument really doesn't hold much sway when there's no other use for the software.
- etandrib, on 01/10/2008, -0/+7I've used Vienna for over a year or so now. Great reader. I tried NNW but Vienna does just what I need it to so why switch?.
- inactive, on 01/10/2008, -0/+6I'm also a fan of Vienna- there doesn't seem to be any reason to switch to NNW
- inactive, on 01/10/2008, -0/+5If you bought in the last 30 days you get your money back
- UMDWei, on 01/10/2008, -0/+4I installed it last night.. not sure how it's any better than Mail's RSS reader or Google Reader. Am I missing something? Is NetNewsWire remotely close to FeedDemon in terms of features?
- Fairly, on 01/10/2008, -0/+4Vienna is cool not only to use but to contribute to and mod if you like. Vienna's the future. The chief programmer there is a real ace!
- inactive, on 01/10/2008, -5/+9This is cool but not as good as NewsFire. I prefer the interface in NewsFire.
- Kingconsulting, on 01/10/2008, -0/+4Too difficult I think.
- inactive, on 01/11/2008, -0/+4I knew about the ads thing in Inquisitor but I am disappointed because I am someone who paid for the software when it was shareware and this new version includes the ads too, even though I paid him.
Yeah, he's a shady character. - nunofgs, on 01/10/2008, -0/+3Acquisition also uses the limewire java core, which he is obligated to release his changes. He puts them in a page that is not even indexed by google and linked to by NOWHERE.
You have to email him to get the link. Suffice it to say, he doesn't reply very often. Also, he's always about 2-3 versions behind on releasing his modified code.
On the customer support side, he does not reply to his customers when they have problems registering his apps (why should he? he's already got your money).
He also will not refund any of your purchases (last week a user from digg said his mom purchased a 3-license family-pack by mistake and wanted to get his money back, or possibly trade them for licenses to his other apps of equal value... his response: NO)
I could go on forever. - stalefries, on 01/11/2008, -0/+3I don't know about the sites that you subscribe to, but I remember that Slashdot would actually block your IP (or something like that) if you updated any faster than every 30 minutes.
- customer, on 01/10/2008, -0/+3I ditched NewsFire because this has the online subscription and I can read it on my iPhone. Pretty rad. Only thing I don't like is it the quickest it'll auto update is 30 minutes, I'd rather it be every 5 or so. Other than that it's fantastic.
- chrislee149, on 01/10/2008, -1/+4So, I guess what you're suggesting is that people shouldn't buy software. Therefore, most developers would be unable to develop software constantly and keep it updated. Basically, people would have to rely on generous software developers with free time. Your argument makes no sense whatsoever.
What if there aren't any developers who will work for free and are also interested in making a quality program? Well, then maybe you get what's on Windows right now. My Windows-using friend tried to find an RSS reader a few months ago. He ended up using SharpReader. Though it's a free program, he found it hardly up to par to what he wanted. I tried finding some other programs, and couldn't find anything really decent. On Mac OS X, there are tons of quality options available (NewsLife, NewsFire, NetNewsWire, Vienna, and the upcoming Headline, just to name a few), both payware and freeware, for users to choose from. If people need a free RSS reader, they can get Vienna or now NetNewsWire, which are great quality (and which I personally like even better than the payware.) How come Mac users get great freeware when Windows users don't? I don't know - I guess it's all just luck of which system the generous, talented developers use. I'm all for a good Windows RSS reader (I use Windows too often, and I don't have anything against it), but there's not anything good available to my knowledge.
So please, take your biased, nonsensical, and completely untruthful arguments to the trash. - TimmyGUNZ, on 01/10/2008, -0/+3Can someone tell me what (if any) advantage this has over a web-based reader like Google's? I check my RSS feeds from 3 different computers, so I need something that keeps it all in sync. With the Google Gears add-on, I can even access my feeds when I'm away from a connection.
Please don't digg me down, I'm really curious if there is a big advantage using this? - grifforama, on 01/10/2008, -1/+4You sir are talking *****.
NNW is approx 17mb
Vienne is about 12mb
NNW has FAR more going for it, especially with the online syncing. - Fairly, on 01/10/2008, -0/+3Mindity only works in WINDOWS so it's just crap.
- Fairly, on 01/10/2008, -2/+5Yeah but Vienna is open source so you can contribute and make it better. Vienna is the future.
- NekoFever, on 01/10/2008, -0/+3I noticed this earlier when I went searching for an update to NetNewsWire Lite. To think I was actually thinking of buying it to get some of the additional functions. Glad I didn't.
- inactive, on 01/10/2008, -0/+2Can you enlighten those of us who don't know anything about the developer?
- melllvar37, on 01/10/2008, -0/+2the online service (especially for iphone) is great!
- Konstantino, on 01/10/2008, -0/+2I uses to use NNW Lite, then switched to Vienna. I've used Vienna up until yesterday, when I got the new free version of NNW. Honestly, I love it. In-client browsing, favourite clip sorting, and an awesome UI, to name a few features.
- Fairly, on 01/10/2008, -3/+5Agree /w happyseamonster: it's a yawn all right. But here's why: there's an excellent open source reader called Vienna. And you can download the code and mod it any way you want. NNW today is a bloat monster. Something like 30 MB of total ***** all over the place. Want to know why they're giving it away? Clue: they know no one will buy it. As David Pogue said, some apps get improved to the point they turn into crap. Ladies and gentlemen: NNW is the perfect example. An indie developer who has one application and that's it. And yes Gator bought him but he still doesn't drive a BMW.
- stalefries, on 01/10/2008, -0/+2Well, this is as good a place as any to ask:
I downloaded NetNewsWire and imported all of my feeds, but it has yet to show me any new news items, despite the fact that I know there are new items. What is wrong? - heinous, on 01/10/2008, -2/+4Great! Now all I need is for somebody to remind me of this next time I pay for software for personal use. Has anyone seen my eyepatch?
- MonkeyFarts, on 01/10/2008, -0/+2Maybe if you did a little digging around, you would have found out that they also released FeedDemon, the Windows version, for free as well.
- grifforama, on 01/10/2008, -0/+2NetNewswire has the ability to sync with your online reader if you are not at the machine you have netnewswire installed (very good for mac owners who work on Windoze machines)
- chrislee149, on 01/10/2008, -0/+2The two most obvious reasons, I think, are:
1. Safari can only keep RSS feeds as separate bookmarks. It becomes clumsy to view them quickly if you have more than a few to read. RSS readers put them all together and allow you to quickly switch between stories and sources.
2. RSS readers generally have a more usable interface. In Safari, you can click on an article, and it will take you to the site. In an RSS reader, you could have the site side-by-side with the article. In general, it is more usable that just a linear list.
What I do is keep just Digg feeds in my Safari bookmark bar, since they're updated so often with interesting things. Other RSS feeds go in my RSS reader (NNW on Mac, Google Reader online). - fekimoki, on 01/10/2008, -0/+2Damn I just bought it a while a go
- Fairly, on 01/10/2008, -0/+2Happened to lots of people. Quality control.
- davidrossiii, on 01/11/2008, -0/+2It IS free with any new Mac; the only way it will cost you anything is if you want to upgrade (say from Tiger to Leopard).
- stalefries, on 01/10/2008, -0/+2Vienna has in-client browsing, FYI. You can also flag posts, which may or may not be the same as clips. Also, UI can be subjective. NNW looks good, but I found it very confusing at first, compared to Vienna.
- Mejogid, on 01/10/2008, -0/+2Well he was clearly referring to pirating software 'for personal use', and based on the fact that it was a comment on an article about a small developer's product I'd say that's either what he meant, or his comment was irrelevant anyway.
- stalefries, on 01/10/2008, -0/+2Sure, it's free. But if another free app (Vienna) can do the same thing, and actually works, why should I use NetNewsWire.
- ilgaz, on 01/11/2008, -0/+1I paid to Salling Clicker (second license!) 3 hours before I heard the Netnewswire becoming free. Now I also have 1000s of news to read on my aging Nokia 9300 which doesn't have wireless.
Used Netnewswire first time in my life and it really looks like a professionally coded commercial software with low CPU and memory use. I understand their reasons to give it free (to sell servers) and I also understand why it was costly before. You should not regret being a nice person and not STEALING software. - linz, on 01/11/2008, -0/+1This is the way I have used it until now. Now that FeedDemon is free too I use it on my Windows computer at work.
- ilgaz, on 01/11/2008, -0/+1Clear its cache from its menu, that could be fix. Also check "check new stories" setting.
- inactive, on 01/11/2008, -0/+1Vienna
- ilgaz, on 01/11/2008, -0/+1For some of us, infidels, Firefox and Safari RSS method is insanely wrong and misunderstanding of purpose of RSS. They took that feature from Omniweb but Omniweb's idea was adding RSS feed of site to favorites instead of putting "digg.com/apple" plain bookmark for example.
They TRY to replace some excellently layouted sites like wired.com with some text only format. For some of us, that is horrible. We care about headlines and reading a full feature XHTML , nicely layout page if we are interested. - inactive, on 01/11/2008, -0/+1vienna.
- ilgaz, on 01/11/2008, -0/+1You should ask him, who needs that kind of freeloaders in OS X scene. Users? Apple? Developers?
Should be glad that kind of people are not on OS X scene. - ilgaz, on 01/11/2008, -0/+1You think that is a windows using troll. You are wrong. That attitude comes from Linux land and that is the reason they have NO commercial quality products since for most of developers who even tried to ship Linux quality commercial product learned hard way nobody using Linux pays for software. They also label paying people as some "stupids" or "fanboys".
That is the loud mouth majority I am speaking about of course. Unfortunately that majority controls Linuxland.
If they spared to read GNU's pages , they could figure one can charge and also pay even completely open source software. It doesn't make them "Stupid". - ilgaz, on 01/11/2008, -0/+1Would I ask Vienna developer to code a huge module for Salling Clicker to make the unread items appear on phone via bluetooth menu? Should I? I should not.
This thing integrates to Salling Clicker for me and magically I have 100s of news to peek without leaving my room, so this is good news for me. I don't think anyone says "give up Vienna". - yuriw, on 01/11/2008, -0/+1NetNewsWire rocks. It also integrates with the newsgator online newsreader keeping them synced. You can also sync NetNewsWire across multiple machines. This way you have both mobility and the power and speed of a desktop app.
- ilgaz, on 01/11/2008, -0/+1Nobody tells you to "Switch" from a client you like and love to Netnewswire. They are just telling a $30 software became freeware in a clean way (to make server products more visible). This trend is really funny on OS X. Someone develops a free, open source mail client, announces and there are thousands of people saying "Bah, mail.app is there". Like anyone suggested them to delete mail.app and use it instead.
- stalefries, on 01/11/2008, -0/+1This has online sync with an online reader. Best of both worlds.
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