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- spin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Apple wanted to limit the rokr to 25 songs! getting that to 100 was a whole fiasco... moto was screwed royally by apple here. Which for anyone that has ever partnered with apple, getting burnt is just part of the deal, and should be expected.
- dandiemer, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2"I work at Rogers Video and i sell phones."
that sounds like the makings of an awesome commercial. - beaversit.com, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I can't blame people for buying this phone thinking that they are getting a 'free ipod' with a phone that they need. That's how they are marketing it. Motorola should have advertised this better. It's a phone first. If you want to listen to a song on the bus, great. Choose from a small selection of music ... and suffer with the non-iPod interface.
- zipper, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2blame Apple for faliure of ROKR, not MOTO. MOTO tried its best to come up with an innovative phone, all they got from Apple was 1 year of drag and ***** restrictions at the end.
Also, new model MOTO PEBL looks sweet, its out in HongKong i think. - justinp, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I love that with six times the number of returns and generally mediocre reviews the phone only "may" have flopped.
- Stopher, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I wan't a phone in my iPod not the other way around. It'd be sweet if I could make calls on my nano. Mo buttons needed. Most the time I call out of my phonebook and if not, you could use the wheel like an old fashon rotary phone.
- kkaabboomm, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1is it that hard to believe? all the reviews i've read about it have been "meh" to "eh" to "bleh"...
- Lynxpro, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Why are people blaming Apple for the failure of the ROKR? Its completely Motorola's fault for trying to sell a near 2 year old phone design as being current in the American market. Had Motorola made the RAZR iTunes compatible instead, Motorola would've sold twice the number of RAZRs they sold, assuming they could have met production demand.
People want the RAZR, they don't want an ugly phone just because it plays iTunes/MP3s. If people wanted ugly music players, Creative would outsell Apple today. - tetro, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Look at the date, that's been debunked long ago. The real contender is the Nokia N91, but that's in a whole different league.
- jamms, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1nokia already made an ipod click wheel phone: http://www.gizmodo.com/gadgets/cellphones/nokia/nokia-neo-026110.php
did anyone expect the rokr to take off? why do you think moto through those two year contracts in the picture? they knew this phone was garbage. - portis, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Use iTunes on all other phones except motorola's piece of crap.
http://teavuihuang.com/massstorsync/
Works best on Nokia phones with 1gb MMC. - zipper, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"Zipper, how is it apples fault when the people responsible for holding it back was Cingular who plans on releasing their own music service in a few months and didn't want itunes as competition? Or the fact that its sold as an ipod when it not an ipod?"
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FYI, Motorola itself said that the delay was NOT due to disputes between Motorola and service providers over royalties. Delay in the launch was due to the difference in strategies of Motorola and Apple over ideas on launching their products.
Furthermore putting song restrictions by Apple was a joke. all they did was downplay this phone. With proper launch and better access, it would have done better. - macattacks10, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I could care less about the 100 song limit, it wouldn't replace my iPod if I got one. But the phone itself is lame. It is just some standard bulky rehashed design. Now if it was the RAZR with iTunes, that would be a nice bonus on an already pretty cool phone. Or they should have allowed Apple to design a small sleek white phone for iTunes, and I am sure that would have gone over much better.
- tetro, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0They should have just advertised this as a phone that can play mp3's on the side rather than an mp3 player then phone. When I got my E398, it was a pretty good phone. Moto and Apple lost that competitive edge by using an old design that's pales in comparison to the newer phones today.
- Morph_Ball, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0SURPRISE!
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No...wait, nevermind~ - tetro, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0bradproctor, have you even used the phone?
- quiteinsurgence, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Apple should make one, but they would have to invest way more then it is worth to develope or liscence the tech.
- Ryokurin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Zipper, how is it apples fault when the people responsible for holding it back was Cingular who plans on releaseing their own music service in a few months and didn't want itunes as competition? Or the fact that its sold as an ipod when it not an ipod?
- Books, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Well, we're getting them in Canada soon. I work at Rogers Video and i sell phones.
- Ryokurin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0And Verizon wasn't all that big until GTE Wireless, Cellular One and several other companies were merged into what eventually became Verizon. Numbers are numbers. and currently Cingular is slightly bigger. bit whoop.
- craigtheguru, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I'm glad I stopped waiting for this phone and purchased m v551 (also by Moto) when I did. I feel the ROKR is a disappointment and would not replace my iPod and phone with one device. However, I would consider buying an Apple phone in a year or so -- assuming one is released. If Apple makes a phone directly, I know the interface will work well and be speedy, which is way more than I can say about Moto's phones.
- trunkster, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0bleh show me the iTunes for windows mobile!
- Lacero, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I was about to get one here in Canada... thank god I haven't yet.
- superal1394, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0who cares, the damn thing sucks, the network sucks. get a verizon phone and just deal with the fact it isn't the best looking thing out there, but at least it works everywhere.
- weareglass, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Well, if Apple has screwed Moto over, turnabout is only fair play. Their chip division dropped the ball so hard it nearly destroyed Apple before the iPod ever was introduced. I think this is a case of Apple just using the product to prove that no phone can be an iPod, and it looks like it's working. Phones won't replace music players in the same way they haven't replaced digital cameras.
- crazaalex, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0a friend of mine has stolen 2, the first week it came out.
- r©ain, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I got a ROKR E1 last week and I've been quite happy with it.
Works quite well, very media friendly and bluetooth works like a charm between the phone and my G5 powermac. But then again, I never expected it to be in iPod. - Elranzer, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0It probably would have sold better if it were available for Verizon customers.
Cingular only claims to be the biggest *after& they bought AT&T. Seperately, Verizon was bigger than Cingular and AT&T. - antisthenex, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0All this really needed was an Apple look. If this thing was white and had a "soft" layout, it would've sold much better.
- saggygrandma, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0This is why apple normally designs its own hardware..
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Rokr: worst idea since the whole Nokia N-GAGE side-talking thing.
Steve Jobs must give a hell of a blow job. I can't think of any other sane, rational reason that a handset manufacturer would have agreed to add a marginally functional iTunes feature to their handset... oh, wait: greed. They thought they were going to make a bunch of money from people download from the iTunes store. Silly handset executives, mp3 are for kids (and kids don't have money to spend on you're stupid per-MB download fees).
Mp3 players are for listening to music and handheld game consoles are for playing games and cell phones are for talking to people and PDAs are for introverts who can't stand to be away from a computer. If you want to combine the functionality of all three into a single device, then concentrate on external input devices, external output (sound&display) technologies and the wireless communications protocols that will allow them to all interoperate... of course, that's hard to do because the smaller and more embedded a device is, the more likely the software running said device is to be closed source (trust me, if I could, I'd have WinCE off my PDA in a heart beat and *BSD or linux running instead). - NitrousFlare, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0leomyhero, totally right, ROKR is one of the worst ideas, if you wanted to listen to music, just buy a ***** ipod, or make a phone that holds more than 100 songs, that's like 3 cds..=
- nanoguy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Motorola's ad says 100 tunes on your phone, given that, how can people expect it to store 1000?
- evizaer, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0This story is mainly due to people's stupidity. I don't understand how "100 tunes on your phone" is misleading. It claims you can fit 100 songs on your phone. That is far from 1,000 by any estimate.
How much actual space do they give you for music on the phone? - leomyhero, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0gee, I didnt' see this coming! That phone is a joke, as are all motorola phones.
- j_bellone, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0No. The real problem is Apple. Get off the ***** bandwagon and see the light.
- ProAm500, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0N91 is realll nice.....I would rather have the Samsung i300 though
http://gsmarena.com/samsung_i300-1104.php
....they are both nice and in def. in leagues of thier own, but the Samsung runs Windows Mobile, so its basically a laptop that fits in your pocket.... - Jeppy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Come on.....if you want a cellphone get a cellphone if you want a camera get a camera and if you want an ipod get and ipod. I thing it is so stupid when people get these combo units and they don't work the right way or they don't work at all....even funnier when one of the items on these combo units fail and they either have a cell or ipod....or a camera. The idea behind these combo units is great but they only put the effort in to one of the items and not the item as a whole. Get an ipod if you want one that bad..... I think a cellphone should be a cellphone.
- moiety, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I'm shocked. Not.
- JustinPM, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Will the diggers ever learn? Stop fighting for a brand be it Apple, Linux, PSP, or DS. They don't pay you to do it, and you will not change people's opinions. All in all, it ends in absolutely pointless, though humorous, comments.
- mouseman, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I'd take Ericsson's W800i over the Rokr any day. The Rokr is a joke...and I love apple.
- icu_, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0*inserts photo of an iPod Shuffle duct-taped to a cell phone*
As discussed on TWIT it was a brilliant move by Apple - Motorolla thinks they are going to sell tons of phones and Apple gets tons of free iTunes commercials.
Why people still buy technology before reading reviews is beyond me. - JordanAustin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0A phone = A music player?
Wonder why it didn't make money?
Especially when it costs as much as a tiny ipod MADE to play music.. - frankthetank, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0You more returns that the MPX220???
- TimmyK., on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"leomyhero, totally right, ROKR is one of the worst ideas, if you wanted to listen to music, just buy a ***** ipod, or make a phone that holds more than 100 songs, that's like 3 cds..="
What CD's have 33 songs on them?
Anyway, am I the only one who noticed that Steve Jobs said that "Cingular was nice to work with"? Obviously who ever wrote that previous article about Apples possible real plans for the mobile phone market after the expected failure of the ROKR was right. You know the article (that I'm too lazy to look up right now) that said they were using this as a way to get connections in the industry so they could make their own phone later? Obviously Apple did just that, and screwed over an old nemesis in the process. I expect that there will be a very interesting "just one more thing..." moment in the near future involving an Apple made cell phone.
Also is there anyone else out there who would refuse to buy this phone just because it was called the ROKR? How lame is that? - SVPirate, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0They sadi all us nay-sayers would be wrong. Well were we? Motorola phones have a horrid interface - I hate my v600. I'm considering upgrading it just becuase it's that bad, even though it will cost me money. Anyone that was in the delusion that a Motorola phone with an iTunes addon would suddenly transform an ugly duckling into a beautiful swan were sadly way off the mark.
Apple will take note, tell Motorola they screwed up and go elsewhere, and probably next time they will insist they design the WHOLE interface and maybe get it right.
I don't like to say "we told you so", but erm... "we told you so". - zonk3r, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0sadly motorola's failure will be seen as a failure of apple in the eyes of the general public and many media weenies... :(
- bradproctor, on 10/12/2007, -2/+0Well the real problem is with Motorola. You take the makers of the best user interface (Apple) and combine it with a manufacture that has destroyed the phone interface (Motorola) and you get what was produced, CRAP. The only company to blame here is Motorola not Apple. At least the songs are clear because the reception sure is not! O ya and the reception has nothing to do with Cingular, but more of a Motorola problem. For instance take a Nokia and Motorola phone side by side, and the Nokia will have ten times better reception within the same network. Why you ask, because Nokia actually concentrates on that part! Motorola was just looking for a quick jump over their competitors and took an old phone they had already screwed up and added support for iTunes. And they are getting what they deserve from it, a flop.
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