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- WebCester, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4This would be great, if Flip4Mac actually worked as advertised. As is, it crashes both Safari and Firefox after playing an embedded wmv clip. I've heard reports of it crashing QuickTime too, although I haven't experienced that. I sent a bug report, and got this reply:
"Well first off just to clarify with you that we do not support firefox and camino. Yet the issue with Safari is the new upgrade from QT. As of right now we cannot support it because of a codec issue. It is being resolved right now and should be up on our site as a patch this afternoon. If you cannot wait that long, you will have to down-rev back to QT 7.0.3. Sorry for the inconvience!
Thanks for your patience,
Nic Murray
Flip4Mac Support"
So wait until tomorrow and you'll have a working product. - Legato, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3yeah... they ditched windows media player, but the licensed are are distributing for free, "flip4mac" as a quicktime plugin to off the same functionality... and lets be honest, any functionality is better than wmp for mac
- drakino, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Very nice. The Windows Media Player for the mac didn't integrate well at all. The Flip4Mac solution does the right thing, it installs as a codec for Quicktime. This means every app on the Mac that uses Quicktime can use WMV files. For example, iMovie can now use WMV files in the editing flow, and iDVD can import them to burn to a DVD.
- justbrowsin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1There are a number of posts about Flip4Mac - this is the only one that reports reductions in the Mac Business Unit team and the various Flip4Mac problems.
- FearNLoathing, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I know this is offtopic, but can someone please explain why people feel the need to post links to their digg submitted stories, as if we care. This article made it to the front page, so obviously it was better worded, had a more catchy headline, or any number of other things. Please stop the front page envy.
- EmmEff, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Uhh, I think they ditched Messenger a while back as well... oh wait, maybe that's not true- the version number keeps changing but the app doesn't. Long live Adium!
- enderu, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1VLC and MPlayer don't play the WMV3 codec.
- joesoundbyte, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I've had more success with the Flip4Mac product anyway.. at least i can scrub WMV files in quicktime with this.. I could never do that with WMP for Mac.
- tileeater, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1from my experience they are both buggy and slow, and Flip4Mac was horrendous. Hopefully Flip4Mac gets their ducks in a row but let's not ***** ourselves here, WMV is a turd and anyone still using to encode movies has farts in their head.
- WebCester, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"I know this is offtopic, but can someone please explain why people feel the need to post links to their digg submitted stories, as if we care. This article made it to the front page, so obviously it was better worded, had a more catchy headline, or any number of other things. Please stop the front page envy."
I think the point is that there have been three Flip4Mac submissions on the front page in the last few days including this one.
http://www.digg.com/software/Microsoft_distributes_Flip4Mac_for_OSX (913 diggs)
http://www.digg.com/apple/Free_Windows_Media®_Components_for_QuickTime (905 diggs)
Not that I submitted either of these anyway, but I repeat: This topic, if not the article, was on the front page before. Yesterday. And the day before that. We get it already. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Bummer, I use it all the time on my Mac. I'm sure all of you other Mac users do too.
- linuxmatt, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Good... WMP on the Mac looked like and had the features of mplayer2.exe for Windows. In other words, a big yawn. Yea for Flip4mac!
- SpaceBass, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0FYI... VLC and MPlayer- as far as I know- don't play WMV3 files which a lot of stuff is encoded in these days.
- C0demaster, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Who cares if they pull back on WMP when you have VLC...bleh.
- inkhead, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0This is a blatent lie, Microsoft just signed a new 5 year contract with apple and this includes windows media player. they are offering flip4mac because it performance better until the next version
- cyberdork, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"... as part of a general pull back from Mac consumer software"
Examples?
And don't give me IE or WMP.
I'm suprised by MS support for the Mac platform. And in my opinion the biggest announcement on Tuesday was by Roz Ho promising Spotlight support in Entourage by March. Of all the new Mac product releases this would be the only one directly affecting my daily work.
no digg and reported as lame - liveinabin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I can't believe what a nightmare Flip4mac is. I had the limited demo of it a couple of months back and it worked OK, now I get this full version of 2.0 and it just hangs on any wmv file I try to play, I have to Force Quit out of my browser, for christ's sake! I've uninstalled it, good riddance to it.
- qishi, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I don't even use WMP on Windows. VLC plays anything I'd want to play.
- neondiet, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0
"This means every app on the Mac that uses Quicktime can use WMV files. For example, iMovie can now use WMV files in the editing flow, and iDVD can import them to burn to a DVD"
That's quite a bonus. I've had the same problems with it crashing QuickTime too, but I'm sure they'll fix it soon enough. - pynej, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0VLC plays everything, atleast everything I have tried.
- junkfood, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0That's too bad. I know someone earlier dissed on WMV, but the latest codecs for WMV make among the best quality and lowest file sizes. I post a number of clips to my site and found WMV to be the most user friendly. MOV? Many people on Windows don't have Quicktime. (I know I hate Quicktime on Windows.)
- adam.lindsay, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0They simply are doing what is best for the consumer. Allowing a company that implimented their standard better then they did to distribute their software.
- rayde, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0i just wish they'd put video conferencing support into MSN Messenger. maybe now that there are built-in iSights across the board?
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Flip4Mac - when I heard about it, I was very excited. I installed it, rebooted as it asked, and then nothing worked. If the Win media was in a browser, the browser would crash, etc. I had to roll back the install and reset the standalone Win Media Player as default. Pretty pathetic.
- zwilliams, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0@ neondiet:
"That's quite a bonus. I've had the same problems with it crashing QuickTime too, but I'm sure they'll fix it soon enough."
Don't bet on it. Flip4Mac's creators have been ignoring and totally brushing off complaints of Flip4Mac's crashing. Hell, they've even been caught pushing out comments about F4M's stability on download sites. And they've been ignoring a lot of users for months now.
F4M isn't even that good, most of the newer files play about half way through. Thats it. - galfridus73, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Well, Flip4Mac is working for me... the only time I crash Safari is when I try to save a WMV as a QuickTime file (and that might be due to the fact that the free version of the plug-in doesn't handle exporting). If you check out the VersionTracker entries for the package, Flip4Mac states that they know some players are having issues (it seems to be related to QT 7.0.4) and that they are working on a patch.
- franksands, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0It is not a great loss, since mplayer for OSX plays anything and it is sooo much better
- ejde, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0There's a new upgrade for Flip4Mac to 2.0 as of this week.
- jdeehr, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0crashes
- Computer_Kid, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Why would you want to use WMA and Explorer on the mac?
- diggnationdevon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0WMP sucks on the mac anyway and there are much better alternatives.
- dramatools, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0How about Door Number 3? With the new Intel Macs, you should be able to rebuild Xine/XinePlayer to use the Windows native WMV libs. That will give you WMV3 support.
- lezombi, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0use mplayer. its infinitely better and plays everything (including divx codecs).
http://mplayerosx.sourceforge.net/ - galfridus73, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Actually, many people on Windows do have QuickTIme, junkfood. There are numerous games that install it, and, of course, iTunes installs it. At one time QuickTime was the second-most installed software package in the world behind Windows. I don't think that's the case any longer, but I would be shocked to find that it's not in the top 20.
- agentgray, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Too bad for MS. We make training videos for our mixed network. Guess they'll be in quicktime format now.
- agentgray, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Thus quote junkfood:
| That's too bad. I know someone earlier dissed on WMV, but the latest codecs for WMV make among
| the best quality and lowest file sizes. I post a number of clips to my site and found WMV to be the
|most user friendly. MOV? Many people on Windows don't have Quicktime. (I know I hate Quicktime
|on Windows.) - mcletter, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Front page of Digg.com? Not so quiet anymore is it.. Haha
WAY TO GO WINDOWS!! Give us MORE reasons not to like you :( - RedZeppelin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0WMP works fine for me on my mini. I was initially excited when I heard about Flip4Mac, but after seeing all of the complaints about it here I'm tempted to not mess with it and stick with WMP.
- agentgray, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Damn. I was going to say I agree and somehow I got the quote all messed up. I love quicktime on Mac, but lately we've been using xvid.
- bigteebo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Don't cry over this. Windows media Player from all aspects is an awful program. The media library function is a mess, the GUI is a mess, and it is very wimpy trying to handle files. If you as much as looked at a potential file to play, WMP will find an excuse not to play it. It's sluggish trying to go to the next track, etc. And you can't real-time seek video files nicely, compared to quicktime. Heck, some wmv files disable it entirely.
- spade, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Well, reports are that their is a new Safari as of today (v1.3.2) to play better with third party software. So far Safari has not shown up in my Software Update.
- xofc, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0WMP for mac would only play 1 out of every 10 WMP clips I downloaded. Every time it was either not having the right codec (wmp playing wmp files... how hard is it?) or not having some sort of authorizations. The performance was always so spotty that I only download .avi or .mpeg clips now.
Even if Flip4Mac is unstable, if it plays anything it'll be leaps and bounds better than WMP. - rosswinn, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0who cares, mplayer and VLC are better anyway.
- vinny, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I guess this makes choosing a media format easy. Who would choose a WMP when it's only supported by Windows? QuickTime is obviously the way to go.
- tomscott, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0i would love flip4mac if it didn't hose two of my computers, in two different versions of the product. I don't have much trust for windows media files to begin with, but it sure is better than real.
Maybe the videolan guys can hook us up with a product that works - Nanx, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Who needs it?
- brinser, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Nonebody cares really.
Microsofts death is going to be a slow and painful one but it must happen. - prodigy311, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0You wont need remote desktop with vista, you will be able to boot into it on the new intel macs. You say you don't have the money for it? Never fear, Vista wont be out for years, you got pluenty of time to start saving.
MS is scared of apple's growth, looks as if they are trying to keep people from switching. - skoskie, on 04/15/2009, -0/+0They had better not stop supporting the remote desktop app with Vista. I depend on it.
- orangetiki, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I think someone's throwing a tantrum thanks to all the apple fanboys sending him stuff like his keynote with the mac OS X video. Besides, quicktime is a better code anyway
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