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- cliffzdude, on 10/12/2007, -3/+43Bury this, very-VERY misleading title; "Microsoft Officially Kills Virtual PC"
Actually: "Microsoft shelves its Virtual PC for Mac"
Piker, trying to garner more attention by hiding the actual intent of the article... - JK1150, on 10/12/2007, -3/+33This clip is a bit misleading. They are going to cancel development for the mac, not the PC.
- SomeoneElse1, on 10/12/2007, -3/+24buried for poor title. This is only for mac, not PC.
- inkswamp, on 10/12/2007, -3/+23If I may don my conspiracy hat for a moment...
The rumors way back when MS first picked up VPC was that they were doing it just to kill it off. Given that they sat around on the product for ages without doing much of anything with it and have so readily thrown in the towel, I'd say those rumors were probably accurate, although why MS would do that is beyond me. I don't believe they view Apple or Windows on Macs as a serious threat. - SanityLost, on 10/12/2007, -1/+18Of course windows on macs is not a threat to microsoft. Because mac or not it's still windows. To use windows on a mac you still need to get a license which means MS gets money. The use of windows on a mac also encourages software developers to continue to make windows based software which further promotes the use of windows. In a way it is one of the more beneficial occurences for MS. It sucks for us the consumer of course as MS can drive up their OS prices but such is the world of corporations regrettably.
- battybattybatt, on 10/12/2007, -3/+15FINALLY, somone else who actually READS THE ***** ARTICLES.
- DamageInc, on 10/12/2007, -5/+17This is the real story that should have been dug, submitted 2 hours before this one....
http://digg.com/tech_news/Microsoft_shelves_its_Virtual_PC_for_Mac - Urgo, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12Link to the real story next time please.....
http://news.com.com/2100-1012_3-6102930.html?part=rss&tag=6102930&subj=news - theyateser, on 10/12/2007, -3/+13The key words here are “future development”. There is no need for it on Intel Macs.
- PanteroBlanco, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11I feel that the submitter should have linked to the original news.com story instead of macrumors. The submission flat out says it's being cancelled (an outright lie), macrumors says it's being cancelled for Intel Macs, and the news.com story says development is being halted for the Intel Mac version. Those are three different things.
At this rate, I wonder if the original story was just a developer getting a hangnail. - wpholmes, on 10/12/2007, -10/+17The only real threat to Microsoft is the internet in the long run.
And that is a threat to all OS's. - shawnz, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7Microsoft are doing plenty with virtual PC. they're letting the cat out of the bag with a lot of the new virtualization stuff they're doing with virtual server. in fact, its one of the more active projects around Redmond.
- lightningrod220, on 10/12/2007, -7/+13"That retarded Australian guy..."
Ummm... he's not Australian, if you're referring to Serlet, who gave the presentation. He's French. The accent is a dead givaway. He's worked with Apple since 97, and Next before that. He was merely referring to the interface of iCal and the fact that Microsoft copied their style for their calendar app. As well, Apple developed the design of an integrated search app that opens when you click on a menu object and start typing, and it performs a live search as you type. While these ideas are debatable, I can't believe you confused a French guy for an Australian. Don't believe me?
http://www.apple.com/pr/bios/serlet.html
God, we have stupid people on Digg. /me kicks Linuxrocks in the head for being a frickin moron. - TheReport, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7"Microsoft claims that they would basically be forced back into making a 1.0 product due to the code-rewrite required, but lets face it: they couldn't take the heat"
Yes cause we all know the large corporation known as microsoft could not take the heat from 2 startup companies. Microsoft is shivering in their fruit of a looms. - gothicx00, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Um... the article title and synopsis are misleading. Microsoft has halted development of VirtualPC for *OSX*.
Quote:
"Microsoft has announced that it has halted development on a universal version of VirtualPC."
/quote
Notice, it says "a *universal* version. It makes as much sense to continue a Windows version of VirtualPC as much as it makes sense to halt development on a universal OSX version.
To state the absolute obvious, Apple has gone out of their way to make sure you don't need anything else besides Boot Camp and/or Parallels. They've made this abundantly clear by making Boot Camp part of OSX 10.5 and by selling Parallels in Apple retail stores. They cut Microsoft out of the picture in a subtle yet clear manner.
VirtualPC is a useful tool for Windows users, atleast from Microsoft's standpoint. So while there will be no new OSX version, expect development to continue for the WinXP and WinV platform. - Linkage155, on 10/12/2007, -9/+14When people like you get off of digg (There's your chance buddy!)
- Linuxrocks, on 10/12/2007, -16/+20So Microsoft copied a calander ap, and search? It's retarded to say Apple invented these things. Apple also uses other peoples ideas. That retarded Australian guy doesn't understand Apple didn't invent searching and a calendar. And what's with him saying they just moved the search to the bottem left corner, the star button has always been in that location in Windows. You Apple fanboys are so freaking ignorant it's funny.
- iSEPIC, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7and a better title to boot.
- shawnz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4title had me freaked out. this is completely inaccurate, they're only stopping virtual pc development on INTEL MACS, it will remain on the pc.
- bedouin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3For my thoughts on the MacBU, see these:
http://apple.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=173985&cid=14472790
http://apple.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=67615&cid=6199345
Every time you hear MacBU is "committed" to a new release assume it's getting canned 6 months later. One wonders if they'll even bother with an Intel version of Office (despite their promises -- I'm aware of them) and instead just refer us to Crossover Office.
Anyone remember that link to the MacBU's massive Mac labs? WTF do they do with all that hardware; they certainly haven't developed anything worthwhile in years. - battybattybatt, on 10/12/2007, -6/+9I usually, in cases like these, prefer to use the word "*****" instead of "please", as you so politely did.
*****! - DigDugDigger, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Wasn't VPC without Windows like $90? It was a hell of a lot more than the $39 Parallels, and since it had more work to do it had a huge performance hit. They faced the facts, no one is going to buy their overpriced VPC when things like Parallels, VMWare, and Boot Camp is out. They figure Mac users will avoid using Microsoft products where they can, and they're probably right.
- mrinternet, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2The story is of course wrong, and the story they were intending ot address is a dupe anyhow.
Buried - brstilson, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Apple and Microsoft both use existing ideas.
The difference is, Apple does it elegantly and about 5 years before Microsoft.
Yet Microsoft fanboys will freely make fun of Apple's features, that is, until Microsoft puts them in Windows. - NerdyNinja, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Yep, Mac fanboys sure are ignorant. I think the term you were looking for is "enlightened" :) Australia's real close to France too, I hear.
- Agret, on 10/12/2007, -3/+4"Okay I am not bashing Microsoft XP."
You think it's Microsoft XP? You're seriously retarted. - reverb, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I dugg this instead. It directly links to news.com's article, instead of macosrumors.com's lame rehash:
http://digg.com/tech_news/Microsoft_shelves_its_Virtual_PC_for_Mac - shawnz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1there's a virtual server.
- djhash, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Just a quick note.. I quickly assumed that the title and synopsis were actually referring to the VPC on MAC, simple because the digg was submitted under Apple category. I thought it was a good enough suggestion, but not only that, the link was to macrumors.com.. (i know he should've put in the actual news source..but thats beside the point).. Me, i'm digging this one and the other one.. just so that everyone is happy.. well maybe more happy than miserable.
- crispytown, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1This article is totally inaccurate. It clearly states that...
In a statement on Monday, Microsoft said it "has made the decision not to move forward with a Universal version of Virtual PC at this time.
Which means you shouldn't see a version of VPC that will run on both the PPC mac and the intel based one in one installer. This doesn't mean that we wont be seeing two applications... one for PPC and one for Intel based. Virtual PC is not dead in MS eyes and we will be seeing tons more stuff about virtual pcs from ms in the near future. Like Virtual Machine Manager for Data Centers. VMM is in beta on the connect beat site. Plus other stuff like some new services packs for Virtual Server 2005. - longofest, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1do you honestly think they will continue to develop for a dying platform only? come on dude... you're pulling at strings to get on the "it's inaccurate" bandwagon
- battybattybatt, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Perhaps the boys in engineering can add that to the wishlist (original submitter allowed to edit title and description for x amount of hours/days from original submission date?)
Also, being able to edit the link submitted - as those can go bad quite fast - somtimes due the digg effect, somtimes not.
Perhaps, the links could be updated by diggers themselves? Not just the original poster? - andrew1193, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3The headline is inaccurate. Microsoft is killing Virtual PC for the Mac. Virtual PC for Windows will continue to be developed. VPC 2007 will be free as well.
I like it. I'm currently running DOS 6.22, NT 4.0, and Windows 2000 all on top of XP. The only thing that hasn't worked so far is NT 3.51, because its setup program doesn't work properly with current CPUs.
I look forward to experimenting some more. - f3l1x, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Article!? wtf? I didnt think I had to read ***** here. I just wanted to immortalize my stupidity on the internets, maddox style.
Hi, I'm F3L1X. (/me rolls eyes)...And I'm a Digg user. - f3l1x, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0your submission didnt get hits(err diggs) because it's not leeching off the "apple" category.
- chestnut, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Dupe and Inaccurate... No Digg.
- paulwilde, on 10/12/2007, -4/+4Well at least now they can focus on making MSN Messenger not be 3 years behind the Windows client.
- aoctavio, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Micro$ucks can't develop anymore. They just don't know how. Virtual PC is too much for them, as is Vista....
- fufubag, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Let's face it, you couldn't take the heat.
- zonk3r, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1exactly. however it should be noted that they are giving away vpc 2k4 for windows for free.
it appears the only reason why they bought connectix anyway was to buy backwards compatibility emulation for vista. that's it. - teamparadox, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1dugg, your post isnt misleading like this one, thanks for the link.
- HsoKinees, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1I wouldn't trust it.. MS has never been known to just roll over and admit defeat.. they're far too stubborn for that!!
- i440, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2“FINALLY, somone else who actually READS THE [...] ARTICLES.”
I think that is unfortunate, as it is obvious deviation from Digg tradition. - Sturmwind72, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Does anyone remember reading an article a few months back that Microsoft had planned on developing a server version of Virtual PC? Just curious.
- rye425, on 10/12/2007, -4/+4Okay I am not bashing Microsoft XP. I just want to point out that if they are laxing on the development with VPC than that is a good move on their part. For being one that has had to use VPC on a mac for architecture programs let me just say that it is pure hell. Letting go of VPC would be an obvious step since having a stable WinXP platform on an Intel based Mac would be much better.
- bedouin, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1They won't. MacBU is a ***** joke. It only exists to make MS look like less of a monopoly.
- alexey1111, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I bet the move is connected with MS buying Softricity, who have a far more superior product when it comes to virtualization (you have to admit that cloning a whole PC into a VM is a bit ressource intensive if all you want to do is to test one small app).
MS market of the future will be business not end users an Virtual PC was a client device only, AFAIK no server type of product like VM Wares GSX Server was available. - simplejoe79, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Oh bummer, and I really enjoyed how slow it was. It was so....retro.
- deamon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Just a note as to the category comments. When you view ALL articles the category/topic is below the article and quite small, thus not easily identifying the category/topic. Just my $.02 worth
- battybattybatt, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1I just noticed you missed ti say "for Mac" not just in Title, but also - as you say - in the description as well.
Clever ploy, clever boy. I think you did it on purpose just to cause a ruckus. -
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