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- geoken, on 10/10/2007, -4/+37I don't understand how you can be satisfied with Google docs yet be dissatisfied with Office '04.
- rogersmj, on 10/10/2007, -2/+34Damn it, Microsoft. I was really looking forward to finally replacing that piece of ***** you call Office 2004 for Mac. I guess I shouldn't be surprised. When was the last time a huge company ever released anything on time...particularly MS?
- schestowitz, on 10/10/2007, -2/+29Every products of theirs gets delayed. The question to ask is, _by how much_?
- anteyekon4myst, on 10/10/2007, -5/+28A 2008 product coming out in 2008, shock and awe!
If i were a Mac user i'd feel pretty hosed, neither dugg nor buried. - Chewie67, on 10/10/2007, -0/+20This frustrates me. I've got a nice new MacBook Pro and I'm not putting that Office 2004 dog on it.
They're saying the right things (converting to XCode, fully compatible with Office 2007, etc), but it's still a bummer that it won't be here till 2008. - miatch, on 10/10/2007, -2/+20neooffice: http://www.neooffice.org/
just use it! - superpixel, on 10/10/2007, -1/+19That's a bummer maybe, but I'd rather wait for something stable, Intel-happy and feature-riffic.
- crackah, on 10/10/2007, -3/+18Its called office 08 for a reason
- OloPocram, on 10/10/2007, -6/+20This is not good for apple. This software is very importand to increase business activites of apple...
- dcharti, on 10/10/2007, -5/+18Helloooo Google Docs!
- bborofka, on 10/10/2007, -2/+14MS, I'm so glad you stuck with CodeWarrior until it was too late. Please ignore the warnings again well in advance from Apple again next time, like transitioning to Xcode. Thanks!
- nasalspray, on 10/10/2007, -1/+12***Microsoft Office Workers Receive 2007 Christmas Bonuses & Cards In June 2008.***
Everything they do is late. - tbisaacs, on 10/10/2007, -1/+11I'm only holding out for Entourage. Otherwise powerpoint can kiss my ass. Keynote > Powerpoint
- rogersmj, on 10/10/2007, -0/+10NeoOffice is OK, but it's really not much less clunky than Office 2004. It's just clunky in a different way. And man does it take forever to load, even on my Core 2 Duo 2.16 GHz with 2GB of RAM.
- drlha, on 10/10/2007, -1/+10Correction: iTunes worked with all the Vista betas, it just broke on the actual released version of Vista.
- apologeticus, on 10/10/2007, -2/+10I hate to admit it, but you're right
- etandrib, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7Entourage? Are you kidding me? Unless you are on an exchange server… why? why I ask you?
- aliguana, on 10/10/2007, -1/+8every company I've ever worked for
- amoore260, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7More reason for OOO to hurry up and develop the aqua version. Untill then X11 will do.
- craigyjack, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7Replacement: NeoOffice (www.neooffice.org) is a Mac port of the OpenOffice Suite. It is up to date, stable, free, and comes with what you need - Word Processing, Spreadsheet, Presentation, and Drawing applications. It can handle and save in horrible microsoft propreitary formats if you so wish. Why use an out dated, crappy Microsoft Office 2004 for Mac when there is awesome OpenOffice port for Mac that is up to date and works great?
- spdorsey, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6I agree, OpenOffice and the other alternatives are great. But they are still lacking in user experience. I applaud the development teams for their wish to bring open source software to the world - I really do!!! But there is something about them (the open source community) that lacks in terms of user interface. It's incredible. Once they fix the UI, I'll NEVER use office again - happily.
- kazamx, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6I use Neo the java based mac port of Openoffice. Yes it doesn't have all the millions of fancy features that Microsoft Office does, but so far I have never found a feature I needed that wasn't there.
- cmer, on 10/10/2007, -2/+8Office 2004 is BY FAR the worst Mac App I've ever used.
The French edition is even worse. Powerpoint crashes (closes) when you type accented characters! And keyboard shortcuts (CMD-Q is an example) don't even work. Go figure... - totorototoro, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6So, who didn't see this coming?
Microsoft keeps the Mac group around for one reason; to keep the anti-trust watchdogs off its ass.
The whole "Office Mac is almost completely compatible" with Office for Windows is like an I.T. purchasers dream...
"Can you guarantee it will integrate into our Windows environment?"
"Sure..well, except for Visual Basic..and the file conversions are still in beta..and it won't be out FOR ANOTHER YEAR..."
"I'll take 500 copies of Office for Windows"
"Exactly :D" - madkahta, on 10/10/2007, -2/+8I hope Microsoft releases Office 2008 soon. The "open office" movement has failed; the software is literally a decade or more behind Microsoft's latest offering and if anything the gap seems to be widening with Office 2007 which, I must admit, rocks. The good news is Office 2007 runs beautifully in Parallels on Mac Book Pro or other recent Macs. Hence, anyone who needs it now can simply chalk up a couple hundred bucks for Parallels and an XP license. No big deal I'm running Excel 2007 now in Coherence and it might as well be Office 2008 Mac.
- jhaks, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5It doesn't strike me as odd that you have no idea what you are talking about. Core API's especially graphical API's are very different. Not to mention it 2008 is not a direct port of 2007.
- craigyjack, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5Check out NeoOffice mate. www.neooffice.org NeoOffice is a Mac port (fully aqua) of OpenOffice.org. NeoOffice works fantasically on your Mac. Your time to stop waiting for OOO to develop the aqua version has been over for a while, check out NeoOffice, it is just what you are looking for!
- Bloc, on 10/10/2007, -3/+8well for one it's free!
- NerveBand, on 10/10/2007, -2/+7At least the year makes sense for once (like releasing a product in 08 instead of one year behind)
- etandrib, on 10/10/2007, -1/+6Using Neooffice is painful. Better than X11 but not by much.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4I have no issues with Office 2004 on my Macbook.
- harlowsmonkeys, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4Actually, Office 2004 under Rosetta should work very well on your MacBook Pro. On my iMac, which I don't think is as fast as your Mac, it performs better than native OpenOffice. If you are planning on getting Office 2008 anyway, I'd say go ahead and get 2004 now, and upgrade when 2008 comes available.
- aliguana, on 10/10/2007, -7/+11wait... office 2008 is delayed until 2008? holy crap, the gall of those Microsoft people :p
- noblepenguin, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4Try refreshing the page. I don't think the white background loaded for you.
- reuscel, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4"Microsoft Office 2008 for the Mac delayed until January 2008"
Does't this sound like it's going to be right on time? - spdorsey, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4I should have asked "how many people NEED to use Office".
- noctumfish, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3just another vote for neooffice here. If you are a casual word processor like I am there is no reason to be bound to MS. 97 percent of all my communication is done thru annotated, poorly spell cheked, abrgd emails any ways.
and as a point of order. Office 2007 on the Win Side is pretty.. but not THAT much more productive. - K3ITHK, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3I've already waited sooooo long!!
- roberto_deneero, on 10/10/2007, -2/+5Google docs sucks. It's like having a car with no engine. Sure it looks pretty but it doesn't do anything worthwhile.
- etandrib, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4I wouldn't count on it being any more stable or useful as Office 2004… late or not it isn't getting any better…
As a side note - Professionally I will be overjoyed to get it, personally I'm looking forward to iWork '08 with updated Pages and perhaps a spreadsheet app. - aaronm67, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Office 2007 is far more useful then 2003, they really did make a lot of improvements.
- trunkster, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2***** that. Someone leak a beta!
- jonahan52, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Loads about 5x faster than office on my MBP with 2GB of ram.
- vinhcenthao, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Floating menu's again??
- sundancekid503, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Personally I could get by with just about any decent word processor at work, but I haven't found anything that makes a decent replacement for Outlook. Thunderbird is nice, and I use it for my personal email, but I prefer Outlook for work.
Excel can be hard to replace too, like it or not, a lot of businesses use it heavily. And some sheets just wont convert properly into other speadsheet apps like Google or OpenOffice.
I understand the qualms about Microsoft in many respects, but IMHO they still make the best Office suite out there. - inactive, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3Delayed due to diverting resources worrying about the iPhone.
- etandrib, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Probably not. Mail.app (for Leopard) will probably have better integration.
- serpicolugnut, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Office 2004 was a great release - nearly four years ago. The only problem with it now is that it is slower on Intel hardware. This delay doesn't bother me too much. The only reason anyone on the Mac uses MS Office is to stay compatible with the PC lemmings who continue to proliferate docs and spreadsheets in the native MS file formats.
However, Keynote is so good at converting Powerpoint files that I haven't opened a PPT file in Powerpoint for nearly four years. If Apple could bring that quality of conversion to Pages and to a spreadsheet app, I'd ditch Office in a sec. I always send my docs out in PDF, unless the absolutely need to be edited. In which case, I opt for RTF or TXT. - TheMadCow, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Zzzzzzzzzz. whazzat?.....
Microsoft said something? Something about shipping delays?
Wake me up when there's news. - rebotfc, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Unfortunately the entire business world uses MS Office, and as good as Neo Office is, it's not 100% compatiable with the horrible Word Format. Which means if you intend on sharing documents in business with other companies you need to use MS office.
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