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- newbill123, on 10/26/2007, -1/+10Carbon Copy Cloner (free) and Super Duper (cheap) are two commonly recommended backup utilities. They are in a slightly different realm from Time Machine since they mainly focus on making bootable disk images. I'm looking for Time Machine to save me from my own idiocy (overwriting a file) but I still expect to use one of these two tools for good reference and rollback backups.
- manitoba98xp, on 10/27/2007, -0/+8Oh, so Windows 1.0 or 2.0 had an inuitive, automatic backup system that took advantage of advanced FS features like multi-links and allowed you to view previous versions of files, folders, photos, contacts, etc., bundled in the OS? (I know, I sound like an Apple salesperson, I'm trying to make a point.) Am I missing something?
- blackjack75, on 11/03/2007, -0/+8That's XP running in Boot camp, but rest reassured, you can change the default background image.
- etandrib, on 10/27/2007, -1/+8Check out the actual feature list and not this poorly written article.
http://www.apple.com/macosx/features/
http://www.apple.com/macosx/features/300.html - reuteler, on 10/27/2007, -0/+6actually it comes turned off. you have to turn it on.
- etandrib, on 10/27/2007, -1/+6Nice unbiased review. /sarcasm
- RealHyperX, on 10/28/2007, -0/+4The leopard release is also about 30% faster... serious!
- majortom1981, on 10/27/2007, -0/+4Somebody actually have a comparison to vista? I am not bashing. I really want to know. It has to be unbiased. I want to see the features that I can't get on vista. I can preview files without opening them. I can get different versions of the file in vista.
I am ready to get a new computer. I want to know the real differences between the two operating systems before I pay the extra money to buy a mac. - manvsmonster, on 10/27/2007, -0/+4I'm confused. I got two boxes in the mail, so I thought they must secretly be sending something else in another box. I open them both, and they shipped me two retail Leopard boxes. 2 for the price of 1!
- shadowsurfr1, on 10/27/2007, -1/+5It's not really that good, IMO.
- Tyr7BE, on 10/26/2007, -0/+4What's wrong with rsync? It's built into most Linux distros, I'd think it should come on a Mac as well.
- Flyer2007, on 10/27/2007, -1/+4Actually, with a Mac, unlike Vista, you can run Mac OS X, Linux and Windows. It's also more secure than Windows and faster as well.
- Angostura, on 10/27/2007, -1/+4Disclaimer, I'm a Mac user and I've only tinkered with Vista a couple of times on friends' machines while setting up.
In terms of Application support, the big issue is games: There are many more games on Windows, although the Mac catalogue is looking up with EA and a few others coming on board.
If you are using the machine at work and full MS Outlook functionality (shared folders & calendars) is crucial, then Windows is attractive.
So, here were my reasons for switching.
* When you want to just get stuff done, OS X really is simpler and keeps out of your way and it runs the full MS Office suite or whatever. However if you want to geekabout in the Unix internals, you can - best of both worlds.
* iLife - iMovie, iDVD, Garageband, iPhoto, iWeb (a bit lame) come bundled with the machine, and are extremely good. I first got a Mac because I wanted a quick cheap way to do family videos and build them onto good DVDs. There are good Windows apps out there, but these are top notch and come built in.
* Security. Yes, it is always possible that there will be an outbreak of malware for the Mac, but it's just so ... refreshing not to have to worry about any stuff out in the field at the moment. Personally, I don't think it is just because Macs are rarer, the security set-up really is superior - stronger than XP, less annoying than Vista.
* Speed - I honestly think you'll find OS X runs significantly faster on comparably priced software.
* Lots of good software. People might be skeptical, but there's lots of good software for the Mac, and a thriving freeware/shareware community. Take a look at www.versiontracker.com for a taste.
* The hardware is nicely designed and the support is very good.
The only other downside I have come across is if you are really keen on watching DRM video. Some TV companies have watch again functions that require you to use Windows Media Player to stop unauthorised copying. These site don't work with OS X.
All in all though, I'm very pleased I made the switch. - Hamletlere, on 10/26/2007, -0/+3Alright, Time Machine isn't a feature I am really interested in, but you are stretching hard to say it isn't an advancement, just a "glossed-over backup utility".
Have you seen another solution that performs as seamlessly as this appears to? With (I believe) a button click and scroll of the mouse to find old files that have been deleted, or old versions of a file? I haven't, at least not for a home system. I'm not a sysadmin, so maybe there are some out there commercially. But I think Time Machine looks slick.
It's an entire framework, such that all sorts of applications can use it in an integrated fashion that's easy to use.
Personally, I use cron and an incremental tar plus a bunch of self-written perl scripts to do my catastrophic backup. And I know how much of a pain in the ass to sort through the full backup and dailies looking for the one file I deleted by accident (fortunately, I've only done this once). Not to mention, I have to deal with either storing or deleting old backups as the medium I put them on becomes full. Time Machine handles all of this transparently.
You sound like someone who complains that a GUI is just a glossed-over command line. - Skeuomorph, on 10/27/2007, -0/+3Plus, Mac hardware (which happily runs Windows *and* Ubuntu *and* OS X) isn't really that much more expensive (may even cost less) than the equivalent top-of-the-line hardware from a mainstream brand like Dell. And this brings up another point: OS X and the hardware are made for each other, so are comparatively stable. Windows gets grief for being unstable, but it's no wonder, since it has to support several hundred thousand different combinations of motherboards, BIOS, third party components, etc. You'd be unstable too if you had to cope with all that...
We use FreeBSD, Fedora (Linux), OS X, and Windows 2003, XP, and Vista, in our every day work. My home machines eventually all got replaced with Macs because I found I never have to "deal with" them. - agarc, on 10/27/2007, -0/+3I've been extremely happy with Leopard so far. I had it shipped overnight and it arrived in my office this morning. It's so much faster! Installation (clean install) took about 15 minutes. Simultaneously, installing MS Visual Studio 5 on my dual-core PC took much longer and required interaction.
The dock is much nicer to look at, and the Stacks are useful if you have 10 documents or less. I wish it allowed for more interaction though (apparently it's not as good as it was in beta).
Either way, my 2GB Mac Book Pro is running significantly faster now. Spotlight is fast. Mail is extremely fast. I can now move/copy/delete tons of large files at once (no more nagging "please wait" popups).
Front Row looks nicer now too.
I'm extremely pleased. Well worth the upgrade. - barbarac, on 10/26/2007, -0/+3Wow. That's the least obvious paid comment that I've seen for a while
=8P - drlha, on 10/26/2007, -5/+7Why on Earth did this comment get dugg down? ***** digg. If you hate Apple just stay the ***** out of this story.
- manitoba98xp, on 11/03/2007, -0/+2This is not the same thing. Sorry.
- JustSomeDood, on 10/27/2007, -2/+4It really depends on what kind of computer user you are. If you are a hard core gamer that just has to play all the latest greatest games then windows is the way to go. If you are into the tens of thousands of crappy shareware apps out there then again, windows is the way to go.
If you are into just email, web, photos, music and just normal day to day stuff and don't want to have to keep admining your box then apple is the route to go.
I use to be a hard core windows gamer until I got my 360. Since then all my PCs except for one are now apple. My one PC serves as my media server serving both to my XBox and appleTV.
I work in IT for a living and have to use Windows at work for everything from emails, Lotus Bloats, to documentation, Word, to coding, Eclipse,.Net and Dreamweaver. It's nice to come home and have my mac there and just plain working.
There isn't much my Macs can't do that Windows can, at least in how I use computers. On the other hand yea, I do miss some of the latest greatest games that are coming out, then again that's what my 360 is for.
Anyway, before you decide figure out what kind of computer user you are and where your priorities lay. It can be a tough choice. - Tyr7BE, on 10/27/2007, -2/+4What kind of asinine question is that? Windows isn't going anywhere. Apple is still going to be a minority player, regardless of how bad you wish it wasn't.
- superkendall, on 10/26/2007, -0/+2You can use a partition as well - you'll have no protection against a hard drive crash though.
- superkendall, on 10/26/2007, -0/+2But I can do all that with a Mac too, since I always have the option to run WIndows... you can't run Mac stuff on your Windows box.
I own a Mac and had no problem playing Bioshock for example. And when I was done I could just trash the Windows installation so SecurROM didn't bugger the rest of my system. - etandrib, on 10/27/2007, -0/+2It is off by default. You have to turn it on. Also this is the first article I've read where they have had a hard time with it. AppleInsider has an article that also contradicts this claim about third party apps having problems because of the way spaces was designed. They may be experiencing bugs but overall I've had no problems with it. (1.5 days of use - which isn't much)
- inactive, on 10/26/2007, -0/+1Once upon a time I would have agreed with you. However, the last couple of years with the Microsoft security initiative in play it is clear that Microsoft simply dropped the ball on security with w2k and xp (pre sp2) . No doubt about it.
However, in the last year the only major outbreak has been the storm worm and it uses social hacking techniques to propogate. In that regard you are correct, windows is the target because there are more windows computers/users. More points of failure (the users). So in the early 00's you were wrong, but now you are right again I guess...
It is a complex problem not easy to reduce to a single sentence or paragraph. If you could you would say the hackers/crackers go after the low hanging fruit. For the past year that has been windows users.
It will be interesting to see what happens as Vista displaces XP and UAC notifies users that they are installing a program rather than running a funny video. - jaromir68, on 10/26/2007, -0/+1Midway down the article is a pic of a guy in a jumpsuit holding -- I don't know what. Size enhancer maybe?
- Boondoggle, on 10/26/2007, -0/+1"You sound like someone who complains that a GUI is just a glossed-over command line."
He sounds like someone who makes that complaint but actually never uses a command line. - nashpreds99, on 10/26/2007, -0/+1the backgrounds in iChat and Photo Booth stink. They don't appear at all like in the videos on apples site nor even the keynotes where Steve Jobs demo'd it. They're all pixelated and don't look good at all. It's not just a problem I'm having. Quite a few people on other boards are having the same issues.
- Boondoggle, on 10/26/2007, -0/+1I just download them to a Vista virtual machine on my Mac, so if there is a problem I just roll back to the last snapshot. But I rarely boot Vista... I've got all the apps I need on Tiger.
- pyrates, on 10/26/2007, -0/+1FTA:
Nor will they realize that Leopard now uses a shifting system of assigning memory spaces in order to make it impossible for hackers to bank on the presence of specific code in a specific area of a Mac’s memory.
Sorry, but this is misleading at most. It is NOT impossible, and has been defeated in other OS's like linux and windows that already have this. - mlostracco, on 10/26/2007, -0/+19A581...I thought that was settled.
Also, my menubar is solid in Leopard, not semi-transparent. - UnfrozenCaveman, on 10/27/2007, -0/+1Can someone who has received the retail box version and installed it, settle the argument and confirm the build # ?
Thank you - Boondoggle, on 10/26/2007, -0/+1rsync is on your mac right now. You'll hardly even know it is running. Backup to a remote server.
- jasonwea, on 10/27/2007, -0/+19A581 is correct.
Regarding the menu bar being solid. How old is your Mac? Both my MacBook Pro 17" and PowerBook G4 15" have translucent menu bars. - inactive, on 10/27/2007, -1/+2Read my fixes again and don't be so quick to judge next time will yeah?
- Boondoggle, on 10/26/2007, -0/+1yeah it only makes it harder, not impossible. Just another hurdle that will keep some malware writers from bothering.
- Boondoggle, on 10/26/2007, -0/+1You're right, being completely ignorant doesn't make you biased. Just ignorant.
- Boondoggle, on 10/26/2007, -0/+1Yeah I do that too. but mine goes across the country to my parent's house.. :)
- expatcatalyst, on 10/27/2007, -0/+1Unauthorized quote from InformationWeek concerning Smackdowns: "..., the butts of the Mac OS and the Netscape browser remain decisively kicked."
- samuel514, on 10/27/2007, -0/+1eBay is your friend !
- ifknot, on 10/27/2007, -0/+1buried for being a crap article
- antitab, on 10/27/2007, -0/+1Well played.
- MonkeyFarts, on 10/27/2007, -0/+1You've never used a Mac, have you?
- pkulak, on 10/26/2007, -0/+1Rsync works great. I have one line in crontab that syncs up my /Users folder twice a day with my Linux box in the other room.
- superkendall, on 10/26/2007, -0/+1What do you mean by "getting different versions of files" on Vista - Shadow Copy is not nearly the same thing as Time Machine.
- MonkeyFarts, on 10/27/2007, -0/+1Dude, even Tiger (10.4) has features that Vista doesn't even come close to. Give it a rest.
- orph3us, on 10/28/2007, -0/+1did stacks have the ability to scroll through pages? I hate having to go to finder, why not just include a forward back pages feature. end of one list, click for page 2 of 3.. etc... not so hard
- FredFredrickson, on 10/27/2007, -1/+2Recognizing that one OS has more software and games available for it is not being biased. Nor does it mean that I suck the teat of the respective CEO of the company that makes that OS.
Windows has more vulnerabilities because there's more at stake for people to find those vulnerabilities... so more people look for 'em. It's kinda like how a big city has lot of people in it, so it has more crime. But there are advantages to living in the big city, same as there are advantages to using a popular OS. More software, more games, etc. - orph3us, on 10/28/2007, -0/+1Where the heck are they getting that the menu bar is semi-transparent in the final version? Do I have a special copy? Because my menu is completely opaque. A gray to lighter gray gradient.
- inactive, on 10/26/2007, -0/+1And your hard drive is gonna thrash non stop as files change.
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