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- Hipple, on 01/16/2008, -6/+97I think the submitter's name sums up my thoughts on this perfectly
- totorototoro, on 01/16/2008, -2/+62Its just ridiculous how DRM makes everyone jump thru all these hoops just to watch or listen to content. 30 days, 24 hours, some on this machine, some only on that machine...I'm not big on pirating stuff, but ***** it, no wonder people end up using Bittorrent. Anything else is just too ***** tedious to sort thru.
- t0ny, on 01/16/2008, -9/+63Thats lame apple. Just lame.
I would not mind paying $5 for a hd movie to rent on my macbook pro if I could hook it up to an hd tv which I already can but why buy a apple tv does less then my macbook pro. - flashboy131, on 01/16/2008, -7/+54So you spend 2-3k on a Pro machine and you still need AppleTV? LAME.
- Falldog, on 01/16/2008, -10/+43Are they trying to make me buy a bloody Apple TV in addition to my iMac? ***** that.
- ampersand2001, on 01/16/2008, -1/+24thepiratebay.org
kthxbye - mywhitenoise, on 01/16/2008, -24/+42I'm getting sick of them. ***** it, I'm not buying a Mac Pro anymore. I'm going to make a hackintosh, with a cheaper Dell monitor (same ***** thing as the Apple ones, but cheaper).
And do people really think this is the future? $5 for a 24 hour rental? Not at that price, I think I'll take a $15 blu-ray for now. - XXXXXXXXXXXXXX, on 01/16/2008, -8/+26You're not your job. You're not how much money you have in the bank. You're not the car you drive. You're not the contents of your wallet. You're not your ***** Apple TV. You're the all-singing, all-dancing crap of the world.
- Bootes, on 01/16/2008, -4/+18Not in HD.
- andyduncan, on 01/16/2008, -3/+15As Gruber is reporting (http://daringfireball.net): It's probably due to the Apple TV's inclusion of HDCP on it's HDMI port, whereas no shipping macs have HDCP on their DVI outs. In which case you can, again, thank the content owners, not Apple, for crippling your fun. Or, you can hope that Apple includes HDCP on a future mac. Or you can hope that content owners will get their heads out of their asses. You should probably hope for HDCP on a future mac, that seems more likely.
- mywhitenoise, on 01/16/2008, -1/+12Just have to look online for good deals. Amazon has a 50% off deal going on right now, they frequently have buy 1 get 1 free.
Last week Toys R Us had a B1G1F deal, and I used a $10 off Pirates Of The Carribean 3, as well as two $5 off Disney coupon....walked out with 2 blu-ray movies for $6...3 times!
Amazon, familyvideo, deepdiscount, craigslist, ebay, it's not hard to find deals. - Sic133, on 01/16/2008, -11/+22No one is making you, STFU.
- johnnybluejeans, on 01/16/2008, -0/+101080p would be too much data to push out for an online service.. at least in the US with our lack of bandwidth in most places.
- Mummoguntabo, on 01/16/2008, -1/+11Maybe you're fine with that... but I'm not, and I know there's plenty who agree. I have an HDTV and I want to watch movies in HD.
- em00guy, on 01/16/2008, -3/+12That's absurd.
- Francky, on 01/16/2008, -1/+9So here I am, with a mac mini hooked up to my HD TV, and I'm supposed to go buy a Apple TV that will serve the same exact purpose, just so I can rent HD ?! Yeah, right!
As David from Ars. mentions, this was probably forced by them by the Studios... but what is the end result, if I want HD movies, I'll have to get it by other means... If at least Apple had announced Bluray support, at least, then perhaps we'd have other options, but nope, again, they screwed us with that too.
So we can't legaly play them on the Mac, via bluray and we can't even purchase them.. Yeah really smart move there...
The Studios that are forcing this are so completly disconnected with what their client wants, it ridiculous. - inactive, on 01/16/2008, -10/+18This is the same exact type of ***** apple fanboys are always bitching about why MS sucks. Turns out Apple pulls the same *****. Now less people will buy the apple tv out of spite.
- Mummoguntabo, on 01/16/2008, -0/+8Apple TV is so close to what I want, but yet it still falls short. When I can pay a flat monthly fee and access movies in at least 1080i with 5.1 surround, I'll be on the bandwagon, but $4/5 for a 720p video for 24 hours is a crap deal. Undoubtedly the studios wouldn't settle for less, the bunch of greedy pricks.
- archer75, on 01/16/2008, -1/+8rent a movie for $5?! No thanks, i'll stick with netflix.
- 1iProd, on 01/16/2008, -2/+9I too love watching HD video on my iPod.
oh wait. - airwalkery2k, on 01/16/2008, -0/+7I can only theorize.
On the movie industry's side, they are probably too worried about losing that precious HD content to hackers to allow it to be on the computer or in any downloaded format. (Though, I'm sure they're resourceful enough to crack this.) Plus, they each have too much vested interest in either HD-DVD or Blu Ray succeeeding DVD to allow something to directly to compete.
And Apple? They are probably trying to make an incentive to buy an Apple TV. What reason is there if you already have a Mac?
Basically, they are trying to shape the consumer and force them to buy more. Consumer loses. - evansls, on 01/16/2008, -1/+8Not true: It says here on the apple site, "Buy and rent movies from the iTunes Store and watch them on your computer, then sync them to your iPod or iPhone." So perhaps its not up yet http://www.apple.com/itunes/store/movies.html?sr=h ...
- surf314, on 01/16/2008, -4/+11You mean I can't play HD movies on my iPhone? Screw Apple!
- griz, on 01/16/2008, -1/+7You buy a Mac Pro for high end productivity, not as a home theater PC. Get a mac mini if you want that. Besides, who wants the hum of the Mac Pro fans in their living room? If you can afford the power of a Mac Pro for $2500-$3500, pony up another $229 and quit complaining.
- xkorbin, on 01/16/2008, -0/+6You just broke the first and second rules.
- jordan314, on 01/16/2008, -1/+6As far as I can tell, you can't rent SD movies on the computer either. I just upgraded iTunes and there's a 'top rentals' section in the store, but when I click on them the only option is to buy them.
This page makes it sound like you need an apple TV too:
http://www.apple.com/appletv/rentals.html
Has anyone had any success renting movies without an apple computer? Maybe they just haven't updated the store yet. - tacojohn48, on 01/16/2008, -1/+6While it might not be the demise the stock dropped about 10%.
- mrsteveman1, on 01/16/2008, -0/+5I agree, however HDCP does not even fit into the realm of purposeful DRM. If DRM is intended to stop casual copying, how many casual copiers do you suppose have the capability to capture and record RAW digital high definition video? How many casual copiers even know what HDCP is?
The content owners need to get over the delusion that they are going to lock the entire content chain down to the point that no one, anywhere, can copy a movie. The commercial pirates will always find a way, in fact AACS is already full of holes. Encrypting a huge raw output is sheer stupidity. - johnnybluejeans, on 01/16/2008, -1/+6The 720p format is being used because of bandwidth concerns. A 1080 (p or i, doesn't matter it is the same amount of data) HD film contains roughly 2.25x the data of a 720p/i film. At 2 hours you are looking at about 4.5Gb for a compressed 720p movie.. that is a big file. To go to 1080 you are looking at a little more than 10Gb for 2 hours of video. That is a really big file.
- FoxtrotUSAF, on 01/16/2008, -5/+10Jesus titty ***** christ, you people would bitch if Apple cured cancer and AIDS.
- surf314, on 01/16/2008, -4/+9Where do you find the $15 blu-ray movies? They are $25-$30 here.
- Shorties, on 01/16/2008, -1/+5My Macbook Pro (With a Full 1080HD Screen) Is my TV, I just recently bought an external (Xbox) HD DVD player to go along with my mac but that didn't work out too well. (Thanks WB) I would prefer HD downloads (And by that I mean I want the option for 1080 downloads as well) over buying a Blu-Ray player anyway, What do they want me to do? Hook up an Apple TV to my Mac so that I can watch HD movies through that? Yeah right!
- jmreid, on 01/16/2008, -6/+10It might have something to do with HD stuff not syncing to iPods. You would need two versions.
Maybe something for the future. You rent the HD version, and you download two files. - MikeCerm, on 01/16/2008, -0/+4It seems like Apple's core business has shift entirely to a quest to artificially and unnecessarily create market segments, and the result is that they constantly offend people with what they take out of their products, rather than impress with what they put in.
You can download tracks from iTunes to your iPhone wirelessly... but only over Wi-Fi.
The iPod Touch is the iPhone, but without the phone... and they yanked half of the apps, only to charge you for them later.
You can rent HD movies from the iTunes store, provided you read the fine print.
Rather than make things that work the way people expect them to, you actually have to read the fine print. Look at how many people were totally turned off by the fine print on the MacBook Air. They take features that everyone expects to be standard and take them away. - dizm, on 01/16/2008, -0/+4This page talks about renting with no mention of AppleTV:
http://www.apple.com/itunes/store/movies.html - griz, on 01/16/2008, -1/+5So it's alright to pay $400 for a BlluRay player or $200 for an HD-DVD player, but the idea of Apple TV that does so much more is absurd? Frankly, I think Apple TV is Apple's answer to the format wars. Screw em both and go right for digital download. I give the disc formats a couple of years and they will strangle themselves in their own fight all while the digital delivery systems thrive.
- tibbon, on 01/16/2008, -0/+4I was wondering how they had "top rentals" already... and yet I can't seem to rent.
- Firehed, on 01/16/2008, -1/+5The movie rentals were the most fairly priced thing of the keynote.
- theprez, on 01/16/2008, -0/+4No, if you want HD on your HDTV you get a Bluray or HD-DVD (yeah right) player. It's as if Apple didn't release this. If you're not willing to pay for it, then it's not for you (not for me either). That's not gonna stop me from getting a freaking Mac Pro and it's not as if you were really going to pay $5 for a movie RENTAL anyway.
- thedragon4453, on 01/16/2008, -0/+4Movies this time. You mean the MPAA. Good spirit, though.
- alz0rz, on 01/16/2008, -0/+3Amen, brotha.
- Shorties, on 01/16/2008, -0/+3Progressive Scan has nothing to do with the file, it has to do with what you view it on.
- zonk3r, on 01/16/2008, -0/+3Do you folks seriously think Apple wants this? Yes it might help sell a few Apple TV's but this wreaks of the movie industry doing.
It sounds like Apple said to them "Yes people will likely get the files off the Apple TV but we'll make it difficult enough for the everyday person to do it that it won't be of much concern" in exchange for doing the deal with them.
I just don't think Apple is silly enough to believe folks have no problem dropping 200 clams for a movie rental device. - xportz, on 01/16/2008, -2/+5I posted a comment about this on the other Apple TV opost and was immediately dugg down by Apple fanboys. Now there's an article making the same point on the front page. WTF, indeed.
My thoughts: Graboid FTW! Unlimited HD downloads and streaming, bitch. - agarc, on 01/16/2008, -0/+3RTFA! The article is talking about HD! THIS IS ABOUT MOVIE RENTALS IN HD! Nobody is disputing that standard-definition formatted movies are downloadable.
- LoganT, on 01/16/2008, -0/+3I'm pretty sure you can. How else are you going to get it on your iPod or iPhone?
- an0nym0uz, on 01/16/2008, -1/+4Why are the movies only for rent you ask? Because Jobs loves to milk his customers for every cent he can
- BlueStarr, on 01/16/2008, -0/+3Just get your HD movies with BitTorrent and shut up. This is still an option and works with Apple TV. Convert .264 add it to your library.....done!
What the Hell is the point of watching HD on a 15" screen? OK then. - johnnyamerika, on 01/16/2008, -6/+9Gay.
- lordtyros, on 01/16/2008, -4/+7Wow, that's pretty deep. Did you write that?
/sarcasm -
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