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- Gee1004, on 03/09/2009, -19/+28299% of buyers don't give *****.
- Me1000, on 03/09/2009, -12/+159How many people buying the mini would even think about upgrading the processor?
the answer: 1.4 - stroudma, on 03/09/2009, -22/+115100% of apple users dont give a *****
people who do are linux enthusiast, or windows users by default pretty much
no one gets an apple to tinker with it, they get it because it just works as the commercials say - fezzasus, on 03/09/2009, -7/+84a computer that small wasn't designed for expansion, nor was it designed for cutting edge performance. There's not a situation where a 400 MHz bump makes the difference between unusable and usable.
- takamalak, on 03/09/2009, -3/+79OK, pit your 0MHz CPU against my 400MHz anytime.
- idlebyte, on 03/09/2009, -10/+58How many users who buy a mac mini are capable of upgrading the processor?
the answer: 1.2 - zenmouse, on 03/09/2009, -9/+55Who gives a *****? If you're buying a mini to upgrade the processor you're missing the point.
- krawkula, on 03/08/2009, -7/+47You are wrong. While I can't say that they are never soldered, I know for a fact that I have never actually seen one that is. I work as a computer repair tech and we get contracted calls from Gateway, Hp, Toshiba and even IBM sometimes. I have had to do many motherboard replacements, and most of them you have to swap the processor into the new board.
Like I said, I've never seen a soldered laptop processor before. - kinseyincanada, on 03/09/2009, -4/+38the vast majority of people dont upgrade their computer at all. They just buy a new one.
- pwdrskier, on 03/08/2009, -20/+53its a cool idea but the mac mini isn't practical for me
- nesagwa, on 03/09/2009, -11/+44Shell out the 2 dollars for a DVI to HDMI adaptor.
- AmusedToDeath, on 03/09/2009, -18/+47The problem with the Mac Mini isn't that it's hard to upgrade, because 99% of Apple's customers would never hink of opening the case up anyway. Rather it's that it is way too expensive, like most of Apple's computer lineup. It has a great form factor and would make a fantastic HTPC - but $600 for a 2GHz proc and 1GB of Ram? You could easily build a comparable system, complete with the tiny form factor, for half that price.
For most people, the Mini is going to be a secondary computer, but in this economy, who can afford a secondary computer with a full size price tag? - goffy59, on 03/09/2009, -15/+37My PC just works too. :)
- akifbayram, on 03/09/2009, -16/+38No HDMI output :(
- CalcProgrammer1, on 03/09/2009, -1/+21Most laptop CPU's are socketed...
- kreatre2007, on 03/09/2009, -4/+23The Mac mini is not targeted at people who want to do upgrades. Why in the hell would it matter then if the CPU is soldered to the board? If you suspect you'll want to upgrade your processor, don't buy one. That was easy wasn't it?
- fezzasus, on 03/09/2009, -2/+19wrong. the mac pro isn't, neither were any of the powermacs that came before
- waydee, on 03/09/2009, -2/+18Since very few people would ever want to change the CPU in a mac mini it's not really much of an issue, it's just a cost cutting measure.
- caramelzappa, on 03/09/2009, -4/+19nesagwa, DVI to HDMI won't send 7.1 audio through your HDMI cable.
- idlebyte, on 03/09/2009, -4/+19Only on Apple threads do you get dugg for making a valid comment, what you said isn't even negative....
- Murdats, on 03/09/2009, -1/+15want to try for the hat trick of wrongness?
- ThreeE, on 03/09/2009, -2/+16The mini's mini audio jack is an optical combo -- so you can do 7.1 with the mini. klowngoblin = assclown.
- HappyScrappy, on 03/09/2009, -7/+21Then all you'd be missing is Firewire, DDR3, video chip worth having and an optical drive of any sort.
Wow, that's almost the same! - reiggin, on 03/09/2009, -2/+14Wrong. All the previous Core processors in Apple desktop machines (including previous Mac minis) have been user-swappable and none have been soldered.
- vicsvenge, on 03/09/2009, -0/+11unsoldering is not the problem. REsoldering a new cpu would be...
- dullnation, on 03/09/2009, -7/+17More like pricey. Better to buy an Apple TV and hack it or just build a small media centre pc
- caramelzappa, on 03/09/2009, -1/+11The 360 is pretty good. I have a newer one with HDMI, hooked up to my PC with windows media center. Plays all my 1080p movies and all my music well, and with the addition of streaming netflix I couldn't be happier. I might end up picking up a PS3 soon though, the blu ray drive in my laptop is busted.
- iamtrist, on 03/09/2009, -4/+14Buy em. Don't buy. Get over it. If you buy a Mac Mini to tweak and upgrade it, your a fool. It's a neat device that with a small power footprint that can satisfy most computer users.
The Digg headline sucks - non-story. - stroudma, on 03/09/2009, -2/+12@kinseyincanada
i never said all windows users care. actually i think the original poster had it right, 99% probably dont care
but of the people that do tinker with computers, build them, re-build them, etc... very, very few do it with apples. - inactive, on 03/09/2009, -1/+11Has a lot to do with the price point i would venture to guess.
- Thud, on 03/09/2009, -10/+20OK, please show us how you would build such a system with the same specs for "half the price."
Keep in mind you have to use a Core2Duo (not an Intel Atom), DDR3 memory (1066MHz), nVidia 9400m graphics or equivalent, and it must have wireless-N support, bluetooth 2.1, read/write DVD's, gigabit ethernet, Firewire 800, digital optical audio input and output, dual monitor support, and support a remote control. It also needs a suite of software comparable to iLife '09 included in the price (pirated software doesn't count).
I'm curious to see what you come up with. Remember your budget limit is $300. And building a system that's 5 times the physical size of a Mac Mini doesn't count. - nesagwa, on 03/09/2009, -3/+13ie. nobody.
- balthisar, on 03/09/2009, -7/+16Upgrade the processor? WTF? My "PC" (which is a Linux box, by the way) can't upgrade the processor, either. The motherboard is obsolete. I could go from 2.2 Ghz to 2.6 Ghz, yeah, big deal. I need a whole new motherboard and new RAM. Hell, I just tried to buy an SATA card, and everything is X-PCI or whatever they call it now, not just regular PCI. I had to pay $30 for a legacy, 1.5 gbps version rather than $10 for a modern, 3.0 gbps version. The whole system was built in 2006. Luckily, it still serves it original purpose as my MythTV backend. The front-end, you ask? They're still un-upgradable XBoxes.
For desktop use, I have two iMacs. I don't pretend to ever upgrade them. They still serve the use they were purchased for. By time something much, much betterer comes along that I'd have a real need for, I'd be in the same boat as my Linux box -- old motherboard with old technology. It's a hell of lot easier just to replace an iMac. Yeah, I waste a serviceable screen, DVD drive, etc., but God, unless you're scraping by on minimum wage, the price difference is inconsequential. It's like buying a Mercury instead of a Ford; who the hell cares about a tiny amount of money? - CalcProgrammer1, on 03/09/2009, -0/+9Unsoldering a CPU requires unsoldering nearly 1000 connections...and none of those are pins going through the board. CPU's use BGA if they're directly soldered and that's nearly impossible to remove (you need a quality reflow station, a reballing station, and something to line up the connections).
- MacParrot, on 03/09/2009, -1/+9I would hazard a guess that there's a lot ol TheAeneid hasn't seen. You can start with resale prices of older Macs and go right through to a naked woman. And just about everything else in-between.
- ericdano, on 03/09/2009, -5/+13Honestly, since Intel keeps changing the specs on their processors........it doesn't matter.
- fangor, on 03/09/2009, -0/+8Have YOU ever tried to unsolder/solder Surface Mount Devices? At Defcon I was way proud of myself when I soldered a 4-pin usb connector in 15 min and it worked the first time. Now, imagine trying to get 775 pins right the first time...
- veriix, on 03/09/2009, -1/+9Apparently you've never seen the resale prices of old macs.
- idlebyte, on 03/09/2009, -8/+15Apparently you have never heard of Shuttle??
- idlebyte, on 03/09/2009, -5/+12I thought ahead when I built my computer and got a nice MB with a cheap CPU, two years later I went from single core to dual core and added 600Mhz for 100$ and didn't need a new board.
- InorganicMatter, on 03/09/2009, -0/+7Believe it or not, there's more to a computer than the length of the spec sheet.
- jakem1, on 03/09/2009, -1/+8@Tyrghast: I can only assume that the people who are digging you down think that there were other lines more worthy of the "most ***** line ever uttered in a Mac ad" award.
- fezzasus, on 03/09/2009, -2/+9apparently you've never seen the size difference between a shuttle and mini.
- fety, on 03/09/2009, -3/+10ExHDD w NO FAN = Bad News
- ez12a, on 03/09/2009, -3/+10the mac mini is based off a notebook platform.
..which is why it uses notebook sized memory. Soldered CPUs are no surprise. - caramelzappa, on 03/09/2009, -1/+7If you had basic reading comprehension you would see he didn't say it wasn't practical for you, just that it didn't work for him.
Personally, I think if your using a mac mini for something like a HTPC for your tv it's great, but in most applications you might as well just get a netbook or other cheap computer. With the netbook at least you can be mobile when you want to be. At $600, there are plenty of more powerful and practical options. Again, if you want an HTPC that looks good next to your tv, it's a fine choice. - Tyrghast, on 03/09/2009, -10/+16I'll just keep streaming from the computer i already have to the xbox I already have and watch ***** on TV that way.
- inactive, on 03/09/2009, -2/+8My playstation 3 is a pretty good entertainment unit too. I bet the 360 is also outside of the bluray thing
- LikwidFlux, on 03/09/2009, -1/+768.5% of statistics are made up.
- waydee, on 03/09/2009, -0/+6Well yes, it's a cost cutting, profit boosting measure Apple if that wasn't already clear.
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