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news.yahoo.com — Apple is poised to convert more people to using Macs this holiday season, according to a new survey. The new Mac buyers are driven as much by Apple's decision to switch to Intel processors as they are from the halo effect associated with the much-loved iPod.
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- Ireland, on 10/12/2007, -76/+6Quick run for cover, now PC's are safer than Mac's!! LOL
- koregaonpark, on 10/12/2007, -65/+4Right. I'll actually eat a large-ish chicken sandwich when that day comes (I'm vegetarian).
- drlha, on 10/12/2007, -4/+37Did you even read the synopsis? This story has got noting to do with security.
- VolsFan, on 10/12/2007, -4/+13I think our dear friend Ireland was merely making fun of the phrase "Mac attack" and was in no way commenting on the security of the system.
- nofxjunkee, on 10/12/2007, -6/+17"Why can't you Linux/Windows nerds just accept the fact that people are interested in Apple products?"
Why can't you accept the fact that most people who use Apple products will also use Linux and/or Windows as well? It's not black or white, you use the right OS for the job. - vexter, on 10/12/2007, -42/+4Correction, STUPID people are interested in Apple. No person that acually knows how to use the internet to its fullest extent would use an Apple computer. The stuff I use the internet for doesnt even have a OSX version of their software.
- 23r17i05o42n, on 10/12/2007, -2/+23Vexter wins the clueless idiot of the day award! Congrats!
- shakin, on 10/12/2007, -8/+14Macs are PCs.
- RandomGuySteve, on 10/12/2007, -17/+4Mac users love their niche, claim superiority in every way, and will probably get tired of it if macs get as popular as PCs (which means PCs will have to become a lot more unpopular). They're set for life!
Thankfully to combat this Master Jobs has brilliantly implemented the "NO POOR PEOPLE" policy, and the lack of game support right out of the box will definitely take care of most of the script kiddies. But hey, some idiot convinced you that you needed DUAL CORES to surf the internet and somehow you thought spending 2500 dollars on it was a good idea. Congratu-*****-lations! - unibomber999, on 10/12/2007, -3/+12OS2 warp is Teh 1337. All of you crApple, Lin(s)ux, Windoz n00bz just can't handle it.
- gert2, on 10/12/2007, -5/+3@shakin
Macs are personal computers, not IBM PC clones. - alternative724, on 10/12/2007, -6/+1I'll have to wonder why the the previous two mac bashers seem to assume that Personal Computers (yes he was right, macs are PCs)
are only useful for surfing the internet.
people are paying 2500 dollars for the mac environment, the workflow, the subtlety behind a click and drag installation of an application, and the look and feel of using the app.
Office 2003 and 2004 do the same thing, but office 2004 looks way better and the workflow uses the translucent auto-hiding formatting pallet instead of a bunch of confusing ass menus.
Same idea with CS2. - Rosco, on 10/12/2007, -4/+3So, does this mean there really is no such thing as a Microsoft monopoly?
- Bioshocker, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4Hey guys, just checking in to let you know I'm using the internet to its fullest extent. TO THE MAX!
"The stuff I use the internet for doesnt even have a OSX version of their software."
Yes, I'm sorry Vexter, I don't believe Macs have premium-rate porn-site dial-up hijackers. Zing! - Ireland, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"Did you even read the synopsis? This story has got noting to do with security"
I know!
- Ninjab3ar, on 10/12/2007, -10/+27Oh-No-Cant-Resist! My iPod is Brainwashing me to buy an iMac with its halo effect!
- emorphien, on 10/12/2007, -53/+13I can see that happening for a lot of people. They're not very smart... hell the average IQ is supposed to be 100.
Wow this got dugg down fast! Cool... apple fanboymorons - Ninjab3ar, on 10/12/2007, -36/+17Macs are good. (digg me up)
edit: I'm not being sarcastic. - ecable, on 10/12/2007, -34/+10Mac fanbois we are - morons we are not. You mixed yourself up with us, sorry.
- emorphien, on 10/12/2007, -12/+24any fanboy is a moron, they typically lose their objectivity and openmindedness
- MadKennyP, on 10/12/2007, -8/+13I just placed an order for a new Mac Pro, but that is very funny, Ninjab3ar.
- krakelohm, on 10/12/2007, -6/+15Im sorry here but cant we come up with a better term then "fanbois"? That sounds like someone who gives out handjobs for lunch money.
- MadKennyP, on 10/12/2007, -6/+15emorphien: you are an idiot. I own both Macs and PCs. I will buy what I want. And I'm sure I'm more educated and successful than you, so don't make such sweeping generalizations.
- vertinox, on 10/12/2007, -3/+22I'm not a Mac Fanboy and I do corporate tech support for a living on 99% windows machines, but I don't like take my work home with me.
So that is why I got a Mac a few years ago. Nothing fancy, but I don't have to mess around with drivers, editing registries, mal ware and viruses...
I've got a windows box when I want to play games, but like I said... I don't really want to deal with Windows issues when I go home for the day even though I'm more knowledgable about repairing Windows than anyone I know since its my job.
Usually, when a non-techie person asks me what they should get... I tell them to get a Mac if they just want to surf and do emails. Heck... I suppose they can do gaming on the new Intels, but generally OS X just works. - awhiteflame, on 10/12/2007, -4/+17I've said it before, and I'll say it again. The only thing more pointless and ignorant than a mindless Apple Fanboy is an Anti-apple Fanboy. Because remember, it's cool to dislike what's "cool".
- ImTheDarkcyde, on 10/12/2007, -8/+6"any fanboy is a moron, they typically lose their objectivity and openmindedness"
so you say the entire mac community has an IQ of 100, call apple fanbys 'morons', and yet remain objective and open minded yourself? idiot - alarm, on 10/12/2007, -1/+15emorphien: "I can see that happening for a lot of people. They're not very smart... hell the average IQ is supposed to be 100."
Average IQ will always be 100...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IQ#IQ_and_general_intelligence_factor - taintparty, on 10/12/2007, -4/+5I don't buy Apple because they are helping the music industry carry on as usual. iTMS is only good for Apple and the labels and the RIAA, the artists are getting screwed as badly as they ever were (actually worse now that they only get per song royalties which are even less than album royalties).
If you think they make a better product fine, but don't pretend they actually care about anyone or anything other than money. Apple is just quiet about screwing some people over, hell look at the iPod sweatshop. They only care in a good way when it means money (like when your Powerbook breaks). - uirye, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7By the way, just so we're all clear, IQ is normalized at 100 on all tests. This means that the average is always 100 on IQ scales. The scales are based on Gaussian bell-shaped distributions with two standard deviations below and above the mean containing approximately 90% of the population.
- stealthboy, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8@emorphien: "any fanboy is a moron, they typically lose their objectivity and openmindedness"
Losing openmindedness is not necessarily a bad thing. I've used Linux machines, UNIX, Irix, Windows, and Macs. I happen to think my PowerBook is my favorite machine, and I'll definitely buy another Mac. It's not that I've "lost my objectivity"... It's simply the fact that I've been around for a while and have found something that is better than everything else for me, so I'm made up my mind.
If you want to keep such an open mind that you never make a decision or have ideals and principles, well then I feel sorry for you. Sometimes it's okay to make up your mind and hold on to something. - gill1109, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1> by uirye 25 minutes ago
> By the way, just so we're all clear, IQ is normalized at 100 on all tests.
> This means that the average is always 100 on IQ scales. The scales are
> based on Gaussian bell-shaped distributions with two standard deviations
> below and above the mean containing approximately 90% of the population.
95%, uirye (wel, +/-1.98... standard deviations contains 95%)
[just so we're all clear] - alternative724, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1I can see that happening for a lot of people. They're not very smart... hell the average IQ is supposed to be 100.
you are being dugg down for being uneducated.
the average IQ will ALWAYS be 100. its on a sliding scale.
if you are 10 years old, and you score the same as an average 10 year old would, that is 16/16 times 100. which is what?......100
Edit*
Someone beat me to it.... and used wikipedia
I got pwnd - emorphien, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1You guys obviously missed discussions in recent years about errors made in IQ tests and "inflation" of IQ scores. Obviously the average, BY DEFINITION, is 100.
And of course those offended by my comments about being a fanboy and defending themselves (I didn't point fingers at anyone) are just making themselves look more foolish.
- emorphien, on 10/12/2007, -53/+13I can see that happening for a lot of people. They're not very smart... hell the average IQ is supposed to be 100.
- drlha, on 10/12/2007, -9/+23I see the explosion of Macs (not just the batteries) everywhere I go. My mother in law now has a MacBook, every conference I got to the audience is >50% Macs, at the last conference probably 25% of talks were given using Keynote. In my own job, we've gone from 0-3 Macs in 2 years and come November that number will most likely quadruple when our new budget comes into play.
- ReallyChili, on 10/12/2007, -35/+10Of course I bet that budget has to really expand to afford those overhyped, overpriced Macs.
- tc811, on 10/12/2007, -3/+19Yeah, I've also noticed something similar at my university too. Particularly easy to notice the macbooks when I walk into lecture halls.
- skyshock21, on 10/12/2007, -19/+13When I can build a computer from parts and load OSX on it (legally), then I'll switch.
When that computer can be managed by a Network Operating environment that approaches the ease of use of Microsoft Active Directory, then I'll consider deploying them in my business. And don't give me this garbage of Open Directory is close, I've used it and it's most definitely not.
But none of this will happen unless more commercial software vendors write applications for the Mac platform. And no, I'm not talking about your run-of-the-mill Web Browser/Office Package, I mean enterprise-scale finance applications, large-scale document management packages, automated workflow packages, and enterprise resource planning packages. Currently there aren't any that can compete w/ what's available for the PC.
Until all that happens, the Mac will continue to be a home-use toy and nothing more. - egrefen, on 10/12/2007, -9/+4skyshock21 >> Your obviously haven't heard of boot camp or parallels...
- rheaume, on 10/12/2007, -10/+2"My mother in law now has a MacBook"
Exactly. - nofxjunkee, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10"Until all that happens, the Mac will continue to be a home-use toy and nothing more."
lol, http://www.tcf.vt.edu/systemX.html - newbill123, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Typical arguments against Macs and Betty Crocker cake mixes:
"Until I can build a Betty Crocker cake from scratch, then I'll switch to Betty Crocker cake mix." A Mac is something that you can't build yourself, it may not be as good as something you build yourself. In fact I'm pretty sure it won't be, just because build-it-yourself meets your exact needs rather than the needs of a whole customer demographic. But Mac OS X limits QA to certain hardware and sets a price point that assumes you have also purchased supported hardware. Build-it-yourself would raise the price and/or make it seem like Apple QA stinks. It would fundamentally change the Mac experience.
"When a Betty Crocker cake will fit into my proprietary Microsoft ActiveOven, then I'll consider switching" I think the problem is that you have a solution you've found to your problem that excludes Macs from consideration at all, no matter their virtues. If you find the Mac solves problems or satisfies needs of your organization, then you need to find a way to accomodate it even if that means tossing MS ActiveDirectory. Is the goal of your business to use Microsoft ActiveDirectory or to solve your business problems?
"When people start offering frostings, sprinkles, and fillings that go with Betty Crocker cake mix, then I'll switch" There are plenty of Mac apps and solutions, I write some with the Cocoa framework since it's ideal for in-house app building. Of course, these apps don't make it to CompUSA. As for the solutions scaled to the enterprise level, there are many solutions on UNIX, Linux, and BSD that don't involve any proprietary Microsoft technology. These work well for Mac OS too. Again, you're trying to fit the Mac into a Microsoft mold that's inherently and intentionally designed to be limited.
I have a friend who brags that he uses Duncan Hines Orange flavored cake mix for a particular sexual fetish of his. (You DON'T want to ask!) He's tried other cake mixes and found them lacking for his particular fetish. You may very well have found a unique problem that Macs won't solve, but I'd suggest that for many people and businesses out there, they could switch to Macs (or to Betty Crocker cake mixes) without any problems. - cyfer2000, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2After several virus outbreaks, an FBI investigation of hackers using compromised computers to attack NASA and several computers confiscated as evidence, my roommate's company gave up Windows at all. People are given two choices in his company now, Apple/Office.X or Dell/Linux/OO.o. And most people have chosen Apple/Office.X
- skyshock21, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1@ nofxjunkee
BFD. Nothing you couldn't do better and cheaper with Linux servers. Just because VaTech wants to show you that it is possible to iceskate uphill doesn't mean it's a good idea. - skyshock21, on 10/12/2007, -4/+1@ newbill123
Don't be absurd. You COMPLETELY missed my point.
First off, I don't want a computer where the OS is tied to specific hardware, I want to have those separated so I can use what I want to fit the situation. You can do this w/ a PC. Not a major setback, but a setback nonetheless.
Apple doesn't have anything comperable to what MS offers as far as a robust network operating environement. Apple offers Open Directory (which is kinda pathetic by comparison), and have a Mickey Mouse method for authenticating against Active Directory. I don't WANT to use Apple computers with AD, I want Apple to come up with something BETTER. Which they haven't, and seem content not to. They aim for the home market, and not the enterprise. And then act all smug when businesses don't adopt.
As for software, I'm most definitely NOT trying to fit an Apple into an MS mold... I want Apple (or their partners) to release software that can do the things a business needs to do! In my case I work for a medium-sized city government. There are no packages available on the Mac platform that are even close to being comperable to the software we use. GIS systems? Utility billing systems? Police Force reporting and dispatch management systems? Don't make me laugh. Re-writing all these from scratch just so we can "run a mac" seems absurd.
Many small businesses might be able to use Macs, but for most (especially larger operations) they're always missing 3-4 crucial applications. These are precisely the reasons Macs haven't seen widespread adoption, hence my conclusion: Mac = home-use toy.
- MaceSoul, on 10/12/2007, -14/+9One thing I've found to be consistent: any time journalists try to predict what will happen at some point in the future, they are wrong.
- ecable, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10You wouldn't happen to be a journalist, would you?
- kelly, on 10/12/2007, -3/+8Interesting... it wasn't a journalist that made the prediction... it was an analyst.
- orb_nsc, on 10/12/2007, -6/+14Yeah, because most people buy $1500 gifts for their kids at Christmas...
(that was sarcasm, but I do acknowledge that you could get a Mac Mini for less money than a PS3, and it would be a MUCH better purchase...)- VolsFan, on 10/12/2007, -5/+5Not all Christmas gifts, and definitely very few computers, are purchased for children. My parents sure as hell never spent that much money on a gift for me when I was a kid (although room, board and college were nice), and I don't think I'll ever buy my kids a $1500 Christmas present (well, ignoring inflation). However, I'll be buying a MacBook for my fiancee this Christmas.
- baalzebub, on 10/12/2007, -12/+8i have most the cash on hand to buy a MacBook, i intend to get one by the end of the year, depending how much i have saved by december 15 i will either get a Macbook or MacBook-Pro...
- naio21, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3Who cares?
- adrocknaphobia, on 10/12/2007, -28/+7Lol. I hate my iPod so much it's turned me off from Apple completely.
The more Apple becomes mainstream, the more I feel like a pop culture rebel when on my PC.- drlha, on 10/12/2007, -14/+23You're not a rebel using Windows, you're just a fool.
- Fratm, on 10/12/2007, -6/+11@drlha , how do you know he is using windows? PC != Windows.
-Fratm - gonephishin, on 10/12/2007, -11/+7Because "Corporate Tool" > "Pop Culture Follower"?
Update: Drat. I'm already the third person to flame... - krische, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10Apple has lot of ground to cover in the computer market before the are really mainstream.
- sxtxixtxcxh, on 10/12/2007, -8/+5lol you and nearly the entire computer using world. all of you, so rebellious.
- eskay, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8He said PC, not windows. Mind you, apple computers are technically PCs too.
- Kypt, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9I love how kids feel they're special when they "hate" everything mainstream.
KidA:"I love this song man!"
KidB:"hrmm really? It just hit the charts"
KidA:"oh *****, you serious? What sell-outs I ***** hate it now..."
KidB:"You're tha man!" - SyDIGG, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7How can you be a rebel if you belong in the same group as 95% of the people?
- alternative724, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Your not saying why you hate your iPod.
I have used 4 players from creative, one from dell, one from iRiver, 2 from Samsung, and now 3 from apple.
My 30 gig 5g iPod is uncomparably better than all of them hands down with only one exception. It has no FM tuner, or Mic. Those are add ons that i dont ever plan on buying cuz those are USELESS features. Radio sucks (thus the reason to have an iPod) and Mic's are a novelty. - sjbdallas, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1digging down adrocknaphobia because he hates is ipod.
I'm don't own a mac so i'm not an apple zealot but as far as the ipod goes, they did it right. It's easy to use and works great.
- dshPls, on 10/12/2007, -30/+4At my work, my boss cant use his PS:CS2 ever since he got the newest Mac PRO, just goes to show you, Mac's compatibility is still a joke.
- drlha, on 10/12/2007, -5/+15Troll. Photoshop works fine on a Mac Pro. Not fast maybe, but it does work fine.
- cmhanck, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3Uh... elaboration please?
- dpchi, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7Is this perhaps because this version of CS2 is for Windows? Or by can't do you mean that it runs less quickly?
- ecable, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6It works fine. The point is Photoshop CS2 (and associated adobe products) are not Universal app yet (meaning fully compatible with Intel processors). Universal updates to Photoshop are expected early 2007. While non-universal, Photoshop runs under Rosetta - meaning it runs slower, for the time being.
Yes, I did swallow a press release. Sorry. *burp* - Ninjab3ar, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5i think that dshPls' boss was thickheaded enough to try to install the windows version natively on his mac.
you are familiar that you need the mac version to run Photoshop on macs?
unless you boot windows, but thats a diifferent story. - kelly, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6What's interesting is that whether its Windows or not... it will still run on the Mac.
Can't say the same for a Windows PC. - Slovenian6474, on 10/12/2007, -3/+0"What's interesting is that whether its Windows or not... it will still run on the Mac.
Can't say the same for a Windows PC."
Yes you can. Just not legally. - thebiscuit, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0And just not very well. If you'd actually tried OSx86 on a generic PC you'd find that its incredibly slow and has no drivers etc etc etc. Apple designed OS X to run on their own hardware.
- krische, on 10/12/2007, -6/+10Viva la Revolution!
- Ninjab3ar, on 10/12/2007, -6/+2dont you mean? "Viva la Revolucion!"
- Rimrock, on 10/12/2007, -13/+2Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
- Ninjab3ar, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3was that a reply to another comment, or did you really post that?
- Kalan, on 10/12/2007, -4/+4Hmmm...Seems it REALLY took off with Boot-Camp. Ok I have an iMac at home and liked it. I now love it since Boot-Camp. :-)
- Ninjab3ar, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3yes, apples share jumped 6 dollars the day bootcamp was announced, REALLY, i was doing a stock market project at the time.
- alternative724, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0why would you run windows on a mac...
didn't you get a mac to not use windows? - markab, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I think most people have it as a security blanket, but some must have software that they use infrequently enough it's worth to reboot once in a while into windows to do whatever you have to do.
For first time mac buyers, they can always assure themselves they can use windows 100% if the mac platform just doesn't work for them, and their investment isn't completely wasted. I bought a mac pro instead of a dell because I felt like I was getting better value, I get a platform that can run both windows and mac rather than just 1 or the other, where before you had to choose or use virtual PC for windows on Mac. - gill1109, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1you don't need bootcamp - parallels virtual desktop is fine
i use it once in a while to do some internet banking or something like that when some idiot makes it impossible to do what you have to do without a crappy pc
no need to reboot! copy and paste between windoze and mac!
- cmhanck, on 10/12/2007, -7/+3"Oh also: if I were Microsoft, I would just buy out Apple and the lives of its C-level executives altogether and call it a day"
As if they aren't enough of a monopoly already?- Ninjab3ar, on 10/12/2007, -6/+2ignore this post.
- smiley2billion, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8I'm very glad this is happening. I don't own a Mac or plan to buy one, but this will only lead to better products from the competition (Windows and Linux).
- Fratm, on 10/12/2007, -5/+8I personally do not want to own Apple Hardware, that's what stops me from switching.. OS:X is nice, but I prefer to build my own boxes. and I tend to run linux more than Windows now adays.
-Fratm- lostngone, on 10/12/2007, -5/+5Macintosh hardware runs Linux, OSX and Windows. As far as building your own computer, no one is stopping anyone from buying a Mac now and upgrading the ram, hard disks(raid, etc), video card and even the processor at some later date. Sure it isn't strictly building a system from scratch but its pretty much everything except the motherboard.
- Slovenian6474, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0I like the building of computer too. Choosing your own specific parts comes out much cheaper than store bought computers. Plus you can get much better components like better motherboards, video cards, and memory. Buying a Mac (or Dell or Hp, etc) and upgrading isn't bad but it does come out to be much more money. Plus you aren't restricted to Mac specific hardware.
And looking for cases can be fun. Lian Li (my personal favorite) makes some beautiful cases. Mac cases are very nice looking and well designed too, but how many mac users have a unique mac case? Not many but i have seen them.
I just like the lower prices and the vast amount of choices given to me when building, but building isn't for everyone and a good alternative is a Mac. - iainc, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Er, just upgraded the video card, put a nice German cooling system in and added RAM and two extra Hitachi HDDs to my old Apple G4. What's this guff about Macs not being upgradable? Reminds me of the days I used build PCs and run Windows *laughs*
- Slovenian6474, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0@iainc
Just to clarify, i'm not talking about upgrading a system. I'm talking about building one....not buying a full system and popping different stuff in it.
- lostngone, on 10/12/2007, -8/+2As an Apple/Macintosh zealot this is great needs. It means I can finally stop fighting the Apple war and find another windmeal to fight.
- lostngone, on 10/12/2007, -6/+1Me no speell do good.
- Nellie75, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3Love my MAC G4 but think they need more key software written for Intel chips or else they are driving users to expect a fast MAC experience and are going to come up short and disappoint. I see this with MS Office and Adobe software which is probably used by most MAC customers.
- SSCrow, on 10/12/2007, -10/+4hmm its Noon pacific time, I guess that means all the Max Fanboys are online.
Its quite sad really, Apple advertises that the mac can do more creative things, and is easier to use. But, OSX has a limited selection of Applications, most of which already exist on XP and run faster on PCs. Have you guys ever tried running Maya on the Mac? Its really bad, compared to the PC versions performance. Then you look at image editing software, what are the choices? Photoshop and Gimp? WOoooooooo, I have both of those and 4 others that each have their own little Niche`.
To me, the Mac is more about fashion than function.- fohat, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3What's a Max Fanboy, someone who really likes OfficeMax?
- colincornaby, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5"Then you look at image editing software, what are the choices? Photoshop and Gimp? "
Oh no. The Mac is stuck with Photoshop for an image editing application. I guess I'll start having to cry at night knowing that MakeCDLabelsPro 2006 isn't available for Mac.
(And if you think there are only 2 image editors for the Mac you obviously haven't looked.) - soopafly, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Really......where's the Mac equivalent to Microsoft FrontPage and Microsoft Publisher 2006??
[/sarcasm] - alternative724, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Umm...
Isn't photoshop like... the best...ever?
I have maya for Mac, it does suck. I hate it actually. Cinema 4d also sucks ass.
3ds Max is the *****... i want it for my mac........NOW.
Oh...i can run it in parallels or boot camp if i want...(and no i dont want to)
problem solved
- mtgarden, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6Personally, those I know that are converting to the mac are doing so based on user interface. My family has been historically anti-mac, until about 6 months ago. Now they are buying them and loving them - a very dramatic shift for my family.
That said, I think that the increasing virus and malware threat coupled with MS' WGA debacles are begining to turn people off. That and Apple has a great integrated suite of programs for everything that the casual user wants.
No, I am not a fanboy. Don't own a mac myself and prefer SLED 10 or Ubuntu. Still, Apple products ooze out a feeling of being passionately designed and people are noticing. - Ub3rg33k, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8I'd be willing to buy a copy of OSX if allowed to use my own hardware and got to test drive a demo first. Till then, I'll stick with Ubuntu on my home box.
- rjcarr, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0That's never going to happen ... at least not legally. If you want to "test drive" something, head to your local mac store. I've never heard them kick anyone off a computer for using it too long.
- jalvear, on 10/12/2007, -6/+5I hate that every little news about Apple has to dugg by all the Apple fanboys. Is this really news? Come on. Really. This is what the news story is saying: Apple may finally play catch up to Wintel.
Whatever.- unknowndomain, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3How does apple need to catchup? Thier OS is far more advanced, and in my opinion better, its just that only now are people starting to realise how appauling windows really is and that microsoft isnt innovating its just replicating. I mean how many new features in Windows can you honestly say havent been copied from another company?
- JGuest, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1and that isn't news?
- wsanders, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1If you don't want to hear Apple news, block the Apple topic in your user settings. Problem solved.
- lazypeon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Saying that they are "more likely" doesn't mean that they are "likely" to buy a Mac. I, too, am "more likely" to buy an Apple with PC hardware, but my absolute probability of doing so still hovers around 0%. Without any sort of quantification as to what "more" means, this article is just blowing hot air.
- CeeAyy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Likelyhood and probability are different? If the probability of you getting apple hardware is around 0%, you are not more likely to get Apple hardware. Are you really saying that you are not likely to buy anything? What are you talking about?
- SSCrow, on 10/12/2007, -7/+5Maybe the Apple Fanboys just want attention. They must feel ignored by the XP and Linux communities.
New Product from APPLE: iPsychiatrist. "When your world just gets a little too Emo, Talk to a psychiatrist." - hansamurai, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2So 5% marketshare to 6%? Or was it 10% to 11%?
- deadbaby, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1So far I've helped 3 friends buy their first Mac in the form of a MacBook so I'm pretty sure these statistics are right. Among my friends there's just a growing sentiment that Windows/PC computers are geared towards business use, not personal use and honestly there just isn't much of a need anymore for legacy apps. 80% of what I do with my PC is online via a web browser. The other 20% of my daily usage is done via open source apps or stuff that came bundled with my Mac. On top of that, consoles are cheaper and easier for gaming so there's zero need to run Windows for me anymore
- EdwardPrise, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1I'm not trying to bash apple but it is bad enough dealing with proprietary software like windows; why switch to proprietary hardware too.
- gill1109, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0I hope that apple hard+software stays the best and I hope that their marketshare doesn't get much larger. Otherwise I'll have to find a new way to show how superior I am.
- jarinudom, on 03/31/2008, -0/+1Once they get EVE Online working in Parallels or CrossOver there pretty much won't be a reason for me to own a PC anymore :)
- iainc, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0That's about the only thing I used Windows for was to play EVE; probably the only thing it could be trusted to do safely. I'm waiting for Mac port, too.
- senorBojangles, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2This isn't surprising at all.
WinXP is getting old, and the PITAs such as Malware, viruses, vulnerabilities have gotten worse. A Windows box is a costant chore. Besides that the hardware has little differentiation, ie Dell is like HP who is like Gateway, who is like Compaq...
Macs offer the best tech and user experience and I think a lot of folks are ready for a better experience now, not just another WinXP box.
Which one would make you feel happier this Christmas?- Elfman, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1"WinXP is getting old"
Why do you think Microsoft is coming out with Vista then?
Still, Apple can sell as many Mac's over Christmas as they'd like. When those new Mac owners go back to work, their Windows Desktop will still be waiting for them to get some real work done instead of browsing iTunes.
- Elfman, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1"WinXP is getting old"
- lukas88, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I don't mean to rain on the parade but mac users have been saying that they are on the verge of taking over the market, well, ever since the first mac.
- senorBojangles, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0If you RTFA, it says ""In a world where a 1% marketshare change represents $2 billion in sales, we're forecasting a historic market share shift in the PC space for laptops and desktops with these new Intel-based Macs,"
The fact that Windows is everywhere OBVIOUS. The fact that that is changing a bit because better alternatives exist for Joe User, is news.
Taking over the market? not now, probably never...
Gaining marketshare because it doesn't have to be a Windows only world? You Bet!
- senorBojangles, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0If you RTFA, it says ""In a world where a 1% marketshare change represents $2 billion in sales, we're forecasting a historic market share shift in the PC space for laptops and desktops with these new Intel-based Macs,"
- eugenek3, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Vista better be damn good and this is coming from a life-long windows user. Microsoft can't afford to mess it up....
- noopzilla!, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1omg where is my new powerbook!!!!!!! hurry up apple jeeeeeezzzzzzzzzzzzzzzbbq
- nofrak1, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0so, this is the same mac attack that everybody was saying had already happened a few moths ago until we found out that Apple market share was static...right?
I mean, regardless of whether your a mac or windows or linux person, most people aren't. Most people want a computer that looks just like the last computer they had, which means it runs windows. - thurows, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0I hope it's not true. Apple stock preforms better than Microsoft and I don't want it to become a popular platform for viruses. Stay away Windows users. Stay away.
- nicerobot, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Everyone buy a Mac!!!
- DrSnafu, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0I was the victim of a Mac Attack when i found a virus on my new ipod [yes, i am part of the supposed 1%].
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