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- Premier, on 07/21/2008, -29/+133Bush on the verge of leaving, mac sales rising, firefox market share increasing, some good signs
- lysdexia, on 07/22/2008, -28/+105Erm...I've been using a PC since the mid eighties. From DOS, via Windows 3, XP and finally Vista.
Last week I got my first Apple computer - a 17" Mac Book Pro. I can't see myself returning to Windows. Ever. - MacParrot, on 07/22/2008, -9/+60Actually SOME people are giving it a try. While I personally perfer it myself, that doesn't mean that it would better than Windows or Linux for everyone.
People's personal preference is a factor that all three sides tend to negate. Something being better for you doesn't always translate into it being better for someone else. - foetus, on 07/22/2008, -21/+49Well... *technically*, they're realizing how much better OSX is. Macs are still "meh" as far as their hardware goes.
- btschul, on 07/22/2008, -67/+93People are realizing how much better macs are.
- billizm, on 07/22/2008, -14/+30Banks collapsing, Oil/energy prices sky-rocketting, heightened unrest in the middle-east. I always thought if Macs ever started outselling PCs, it would mark the beginning of the end. It looks like this mark may be coming. It is written, it is written.
I have a feeling I will be getting dugg down, now. - DAllenJ, on 07/22/2008, -1/+15M$ isn't a computer manufacturer.
- kimondo, on 07/22/2008, -17/+31I own a Mac and a PC (Win XP / Ubuntu) - must admit will be replacing the Mac (8 year old PowerPC running OS 10.4) rather than the PC, since Vista has really put me off upgrading. I think XP is great, although a bit dated compared with the shiny toys you get with Apple, but it just works. After trying out Vista for a few days it's really put me off - it makes fast machines seem slow, and I can't see any advantages over XP - I think Vista is driving Mac sales / linux takeup, particularly since all these really popular little netbooks either run XP or some flavour of Linux. Plus macs have just 2 flavours of the OS - server or local - with windows its complicated enough knowing what version to go for! (home business ultimate home etc etc). I just wish there was a consumer tower mac at a reasonable price!
- MacParrot, on 07/22/2008, -4/+18Apparently over a million people more than the same quarter last year translates to no big deal? Are you actually listening to what you're saying or are you just another moron troll? You can choose both answers if the question confuses you.
- Rotzooi, on 07/22/2008, -11/+25I've always been a loyal Microsoft customer and currently use a lot of Microsoft products, from Windows Mobile on my phone, to XP at home, and 2000/2003 in the office. But Vista just is not for me (note: I'm not bashing it, for others it might be the greatest thing ever). I have a Windows/Linux notebook to do proper network management but for personal entertainment a simple machine is all I want. Because of that, for the first time in forever I am considering getting a Mac notebook. Despite the fact that its userbase is a bunch of, well, *****.
- griz, on 07/22/2008, -2/+15So where's the 41% increase in malware attacks?
- jimmies, on 07/22/2008, -7/+19Bought my first Mac last week. So did my brother. We're both longtime PC guys and just got sick of Windoze. The story of Mac increasing marketshare do not surprise us anymore!
- michaeldpotter, on 07/22/2008, -2/+13This logic only applies to your salary; you don't make much, so a 41% increase doesn't mean much.
- bundwallah, on 07/22/2008, -10/+21IMO having a nice Apple store in your town helps too. When you walk in the staff don't bug you and they have tons of systems set up for you to play with. For those who aren't Mac users and looking to switch its' the perfect environment to test drive a system. Let's face it, Mac's are best suited to folks who aren't too computer savvy. They aren't going to rip them open and upgrade their RAM, drives, etc. They aren't going to fiddle with the command shell. They are going to use them to do the things they want to do. Write a letter, play some music, create some media, etc. Apple put a lot of effort into designing an OS that you can wander around in and figure out things intuitively. The only knock I have is the price point. I'd love a Mac Pro system but whenever I price them and then use that budget to see what I can build on my own with Linux, l back off. I'm not into spending >$2000 for a PC. With that budget I can build a seriously powerful PC on my own. These days. I'm spending
- futuretheory, on 07/22/2008, -8/+18Yeah... they're only the 3rd best selling PC brand in the U.S.
- Ciryon, on 07/22/2008, -0/+9What ...the ...***** ...was that...?
- MacParrot, on 07/22/2008, -2/+11Prior to the release of OS X, it was estimated that Apple held 2-3% of the US Computer market. Now even the most conservative estimates put them between 7-10% with record profits and sales.
So we're looking at anywhere from 300 to 500% increase in marketshare over a 6-8 year time period. I think most companies would be pretty happy with those numbers. - HoratioHellpop, on 07/22/2008, -0/+9um ... Macs haven't started outselling PCs ... they're just selling more than Macs have sold before.
- ktorbeck, on 07/22/2008, -6/+15While this is true Apple did not gain on the % of users. Why? Upgrades!! It was a big year for Windows and MAC upgrades.
- jemka, on 07/22/2008, -5/+13Exactly. I still happen to use the 30 ton computer with vacuum tubes. Why? "It just works".
- josh4rim, on 07/22/2008, -4/+12Its odd their stock has fallen $15pps today.
- tresvold, on 07/22/2008, -12/+20i love my mac i have had it for 2 years now and I will never go back to a pc - i love how the mac looks and how it runs it's just a fabulous machine.
- MacParrot, on 07/22/2008, -1/+9OK, find a post from me that rips uselessly into Windows or Linux. Find a post from me that insults users of those OSes simply because they exist. Good luck skippy
- inactive, on 07/22/2008, -1/+9MAC = Machine Address / NIC card
Mac == short for Apple "macintosh" - gimmeslack12, on 07/22/2008, -1/+8Haha, there is no registry you twerp. It only *seems* simple really. The Terminal gives you access to anything just type "sudo" and you're in.
The beauty of OS X isn't the Core Graphics or Quartz or whatever, it's the simplicity. Simple is beautiful because it doesn't get in your way. - lead2thehead, on 07/22/2008, -7/+14So when can we put this "security through obscurity" myth to rest?
- phrenzy, on 07/22/2008, -0/+7Yes, having the terminal with a full blown Unix CLI at your fingertips is "for dumb people"
- cgjamj, on 07/22/2008, -2/+9I've been a hardcore PC user since I started using computers well over 10 years ago. I bought a Core 2 Duo Macbook in Feb of last year. Starting using it increasingly more over that time and just recently made it my main machine. I still have a PC desktop for games, but even that usage is decreasing. I don't really see myself not having a gaming PC anytime soon, but if they'd port DirectX to the Mac or something similar, I'd probably switch 100%. But I am really enjoying the Macbook and OS X in particular.
- lysdexia, on 07/22/2008, -6/+13Yup - I can see why you could think that might be the case.
I didn't expect the Mac to be that much better - but it's simply been a bit of a revelation. - badjoke, on 07/22/2008, -4/+11Just download Safari on Windows.
- btschul, on 07/22/2008, -1/+81. Just press f9 on your keyboard and all the programs that you have open will fan out like this : http://www.rogergordon.net/blog/wp-content/uploads ... making them all visible, then just click on the one you want to switch to.
- samssf, on 07/22/2008, -0/+7False.
- macplenty, on 07/22/2008, -1/+8eggs,
http://www.dell.com/content/topics/global.aspx/cor ...
That is from Dell. Yes their revenue was higher than Apple, but their profit was less. Dell required to sell 16 billion dollars worth of products and services to create about 750 million in profit (granted there are many factors that affect profit quarter to quarter such as acquisitions and so on).
Apple, on the other hand, generated 7.5 billion in revenue with profit of over 1 billion. Now, 750 million in profit is nothing to sneeze at just as 1 billion is phenomenal in this economy. Both companies are doing real well, as MacParrot pointed out. But this shows that when you play the low-end game, you need to sell, sell, sell because the margins just aren't there. Apple seemingly doesn't need it, nor do they seem to want it. - mj1903, on 07/22/2008, -2/+9Jobs hasn't done the earnings report since I started following the stock in 2002. It's always the CFO which was Fred Anderson initially and Peter Oppenheimer currently. Stop spreading FUD.
- MariDiseno, on 07/22/2008, -2/+8I second that!!
- dfsjdkflasjk, on 07/22/2008, -1/+7Bank, not banks.
- serif69, on 07/22/2008, -0/+6Welcome to the 2000s! Did you know that in the 2000s, we have horseless carriages that can travel faster than the swiftest thoroughbred and flying machines that can fly higher than a bird-of-prey? We also have calculating machines that can solve mathematical quandaries faster than any mathematician and allow you to send postal deliveries over the telegraph wires with something called "email"!
- redlantern64, on 07/22/2008, -6/+12The wife and I did our part and migrated to macbooks. And while I agree w/ ndseifi about Apple as a company, we also agree with him about Apple as a product. It delivers. Big time. We'll not be going back to Windows.
- devnullDood, on 07/22/2008, -2/+8bundwallah is telling it like it is. Simply put Macs are more user friendly than windows. Nobody gives a ***** about UNIX, nor did he say anything about it. Doh!
- h2d2, on 07/22/2008, -2/+8I don't care about that, but the stock's down $15!
- rimantas, on 07/22/2008, -3/+9Where did you get that "Mac's are best suited to folks who aren't too computer savvy"? Have you been to any tech conference lately?
What you say basically is "UNIX is not for the computer savvy".
Yes, I am not going to bother replacing my hardware, but I am using unix underpinnings of OS X every day.
That's what it is nice about Mac's - it works for the both world, home users, whose primary tasks is browsing/email/photo sharing and for power users/programmers/etc.
Only hardware tinkers are not happy. (And gamers). - MacParrot, on 07/22/2008, -1/+7I tend to believe those who threaten violence in anonymous threads on the internet are usually those least capable of actually doing the aforementioned violence. You don't like the Finder? No reason why you should, but try and find a more credible way to express yourself.
Oh, and I think the Finder is more stable than Vista. You going to punch me in the face now? Even though one isn't anything like the other? There is more to Windows than a brand name like Vista. There is more to OS X than the Finder. - Chirp08, on 07/22/2008, -0/+5Who the ***** is gonna read all that *****? seriously...
- pinkpackrat, on 07/22/2008, -6/+11My first computer was a Mac IIsi with 116 megs of RAM--I loved it and it is prolly still going strong somewhwere-- old Macs never die.
- inactive, on 07/22/2008, -0/+5A lot of us don't feel like "knowing how to maintain Windows" is the same thing as "knowing how to use a computer."
I used to be a huge Windows nazi from about 1994 through 2005, then I just got tired of it. I got tired of re-installing Windows all the goddamn time because it got slow or because of some spyware infestation I couldn't get rid of. I got sick of having to run spyware & virus scans, defragment the hard drive, tweak and compact the registry. It gets tiring trying to keep that duct-tape OS from falling apart. When you go Mac and realize none of that stuff is necessary, it's like a breath of fresh air.
The greatest thing, though, is never having to install a wifi driver, ethernet driver, bluetooth driver, audio driver, motherboard driver, sound driver, and video driver, all of which are part of the lovely post-install 2 hours you get to spend with Windows. Since the OS knows the hardware it's running on, drivers just disappear into the background and you never have to think about them. - inactive, on 07/22/2008, -1/+6Yeah, I got a Macbook and I can't seem to find the registry, the disk defragmenter or the spyware scanner, plus I can't access Windows Update, and my Hotbar won't install! How does anybody get any work done on these machines??
- lead2thehead, on 07/22/2008, -5/+10You don't have to own your own Mac to be a Mac user.
- drlha, on 07/22/2008, -1/+6In their profit reporting telecon they stated the 50% of people buying Macs at Apple stores were not previously Mac owners. So this is not all upgrades.
- phrenzy, on 07/22/2008, -2/+7While I am a long-time mac user and prefer OS X to windows by far, I agree with almost every one of your points. Now THAT is constructive criticism people!
Read this post next time you feel compelled to simply say "Macs R Gay"
That said, Apple has tried to come up with their own solutions (as they usually do) to these problems. Some of them work well, some of them don't. - rimantas, on 07/22/2008, -1/+6I think we use "computer savvy" to mean different things. For you it is hardware. For me it's what I can do with my computer (programming, etc.). I do not care about hardware, replaceable batteries, etc.
The point what I was making is: you are right about the fact that Macs are easier to use for the people whose primary business is not IT, but that does not make them less attractive for the IT professionals. -
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