What is Digg?133 Comments
- Erectus, on 10/12/2007, -8/+39Nice, honest review. Be careful about saying anything negative about Mac tho, the Mac Mafia will find you and bury you.... so to speak :)
Recommend exploring all the keyboard shortcuts. Its the only part of OS X I can say hands down owns everything else out there. Not only is there a keyboard shortcut for almost everything, but they're amazingly consistent across the OS and other applications. Give it a try. - bias, on 10/12/2007, -3/+26s0ritong = mark as an idiot.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -5/+20I cannot stand to read things written by morons who don't understand the difference between then and than. It's really, really annoying and makes the whole article sound immature, as if it's been written by a kid.
As for the point about closing the lid, it's explained in the manual. If people actually read the manual before complaining there would actually be far less complaints. - ani-pockdotnet, on 10/12/2007, -3/+18In regard to the users complaint about unable to have the laptop running with the lid closed, I believe this to be a heat issue. I remember on one of my older iBooks that someone had made a hack so that you could use the laptop closed, but made very strong warnings about heat problems that could arise, because the machine was designed in mind with heat escaping through the top case as well as the bottom case.
- Appelmoes, on 10/12/2007, -3/+17just 1 little comment, iChat supports jabber, not only .mac and AIM
- jedikd, on 10/12/2007, -2/+14This is Digg, second and third parts of title are marked as inaccurate
- JeffH, on 10/12/2007, -1/+13Hibernate is an extremely well thought-out and executed technique of shutting down, I have no idea how one could say it's a bad thing. It allows for the power usage of a full shutdown, with the boot times cut down drastically upon wake-up. It's the perfect solution. Sleep still uses power, shutting down ends your entire session. Hibernate is the best of both worlds.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -5/+15yah, it is a heat issue, can you imagine how hot that thing would get sitting and encoding videos all night with the lid closed? Just leave the lid open and set the display to go off, instead of screwing your laptop up by overheating it...
- rm999, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8My guess is most people don't care that their laptop sleeps when they close their case, and that it is a perfectly appropriate default behavior. Apple tends to prefer simplicity and ease of use to power in my experience (I am comparing to Linux, not Windows)
On the other hand, on my Dell laptop, I find the options Windows provides me about what to do when the lid closes very valuable. Sometimes I use it as a portable internet radio, and I want the lid closed for compactness. In this case I want it on. Sometimes I want it to sleep (when it is in my bag on the way to work/school). Sometimes at night I will close it, but I expect it to be downloading some large file or running a long Matlab program. The option is great.
One complaint I have with Windows is that I would prefer a separate default option for when it is plugged in and when it is not. - emorphien, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9Sorry but Adium is way better than Gaim.
- MediaShipper, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8This is like listening to my mom talk about mac os versus windows.
- TheWorm, on 10/12/2007, -8/+15And I care what this guy has to say because......
Just saying. Just because he has a blog his oppinion matters? - pixelmixer, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7The shortcuts are cool but can be incredibly annoying when they conflict with the program you're using. This happens sometimes in dev. software (Flash, for example).
- ohnnyj, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Why is Appelmoes being dugg down, he is correct.
- JonnyTrombone, on 10/12/2007, -6/+11I highly doubt that the auto-sleep is due to a heat problem. After all, you can 1) set the display to turn off after a minute and 2) plug in a keyboard, mouse and monitor and use the MacBook with the lid closed.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -6/+11"XP's "Hibernate" is not as good at all."
Wouldn't you please ***** off, I use hibernate nearly 100% of the time, and it's been just as fantastic as Macs Sleep.
And I'm not sure you even understand the difference between "hibernate" and "sleep"- look itup and get back to me - vh1`, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6back/forward in finder is apple+[ / apple+]
in safari its apple+
I could understand a browser like camino or something having different shortcuts because it's not developed in-house. but not this.
I'm not meaning to complain, but I had to bring up the consistency issue. I do love however, that in OSX you can add any keyboard shortcut you want to any menu item of any app. that is pretty genius.
have you ever used KDE? the hotkeys / input manager in that is pretty robust as well. - BRODEL, on 10/12/2007, -0/+41. I don't want to sleep at all, so if it's already sleeping, then it's already screwed up whatever I was doing.
2. I'm supposed to carry around all of that? I bought a laptop so it could be portable. Not to have to carry around a keyboard and mouse and external monitor.
Right now I am using this at my girlfriends house and the laptop is on her dining room table. She's playing zelda but in a few minutes shell probably get bored and I'll go in there to play Wii tennis or bowling with her before we go out. Should I have to do all of that just to close the lid when I leave my macbook? Or even if I were taking the laptop upstairs I would first want to close the lid.. can't do that without having to reload into Adium and restart my Remote Desktop connections because it went to sleep when I closed the lid.
I'm not trying to argue, I'm just saying I have a need for this "feature" you seem to not have a need for it. That's fine too.. we both should be able to get what we want with a simple checkbox or something in system preferences though. - siggyfawn, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6uh its not a "bad thing". It's actually a basic feature on every laptop except macs.
i have 2 laptops, closed, running 24/7 as media centers. - MrTranquility, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6It is a Mac OSX problem. My laptop has the same switch, but Windows lets me keep the laptop running while the switch is pressed.
- CitizenKamb, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4He's talking about letting it run with the lid closed WITHOUT an external monitor hooked up, "tard." Sometimes I want to download large files at night, and at the same time close the lid so my whole room isn't lit up for 10 minutes and I can get some sleep. Or keep all my programs/downloads running, close the lid and carry the Macbook Pro to the other room. You can do it in bootcamp'D Windows XP, so why is it not an option in OS X? And the heat issues is obviously fairly unimportant, for (as you have just shown us) you CAN use it with the lid closed and an external display. This seems like more of a Steve Jobs saying "it's my way or the highway" type thing.
- emorphien, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4XPs hibernate option isn't directly comparable to anything on OSX, Sleep or Standby is as that is what OSX lets you go in to directly (although will later suspend to disc).
To be honest it's a useful feature that should be available in the menu on OSX, but isn't. - mediaphile, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4I stopped reading about three sentences into the article. This could have been the most useful, insightful, eye-opening post ever written, but if this guy wants to be taken seriously he needs to learn how to write. It's that simple.
@lesosso: "we are not all English speaking people, we still try not to make too many mistakes, the than and then application of your language is tough to manage. Thanks for being so understanding!!!"
First of all, run-on sentences are poor writing in any language, so learn to break up your thoughts into separate sentences. Secondly, the difference between to, too, and two is simple, because they each have very different meanings. The fact that they are pronounced the same way when spoken shouldn't make them difficult to distinguish when written. It's only a matter of not paying attention. And the "than and then application" is not tough to manage. Then = sequence of events. Than = comparison of things. How hard is that? It's not like the rules ever change.
If English is not the author's language, then he should not be writing in it. - undresedmonster, on 10/12/2007, -6/+9Agreed, neiltc13.
I couldn't get past the first paragraph because I hate reading sentences where the writer doesn't capitalize "I" and "I'm." Leave that kind of crap writing for IMs, not blogs. Otherwise you'll come across like a 14 year-old. - sabbac, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Plus, the Macbook supports lid closed operation. If you have an external display, keyboard and mouse, you can use it. You close the lid, it goes to sleep. then you wake it with the keyboard or mouse and voila! So it very much is not a heat issue.
- TheReport, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3"Most of my problems with OSX stem from its rigidness. Customizing your Mac is changing the icons, and not much else."
You Obviously still don't know everything about your Mac. - vh1`, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4also, in ubuntu it just turns off the display. everything else keeps running. it is definitely not a hardware thing
- emorphien, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Well I think I have to agree... particularly on closing the lid: it should at least be an option.
I also find the WiFi finder to be weak (I absolutely love the utility on the Thinkpads, it provides a great graphical representation of signal strength) and I again agree on iChat. Bloated and awkward, but that's why Adium exists. I wish they made Adium for Windows too. - BRODEL, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I've read that while looking for a solution. I think it's ridiculous. I am not going to do all of that just to be able to leave it on with the lid closed.
- cagedog, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5@flag
Always saying negative things about Apple is just as gay as always saying positive things about Apple. Try saying something useful -- maybe you should actually use a Mac and articulate why you think they're inferior to Windows machines. Being so anti-Apple could have been justified before OS X, before the Intel switch, before the iPod, but now you need to actually defend your position. Right now you just sound like a bitter non-conformist. Prove me wrong and say something that requires critical thought.
I've had dozens of Windows machines and used to be anti-Mac because every experience I had with them was slow and unstable. I never particularly enjoyed the Windows experience, but I couldn't imagine switching. Then I had to teach some technical courses in a Mac lab and realized that OS X worked great. I got a Mac mini and started thinking about switching. Now I have a new Macbook Pro that is really a phenomenal computing experience. My Thinkpad is collecting dust. I even have a Mac mini in a colocation facility hosting my web-based software.
I say all this because I think you're stuck in 1999 and you'd sound a little smarter and less hypocritical if you actually updated your knowledge and exposed your biases to critical thought. - noahhoward, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5Why are you running laptops as dedicated media centers?
If you have seen a mac laptop there are heat dispersion vents on the top of the case and inside the hinge, not on the sides like many othe laptops. The hardware is designed in such a way that you have to have the laptop open while running.
If you want your computer to run all the time, get a tower. Laptops were not meant to be used for some of the retarded things you people are complaining about. - repruhsent, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I believe you have to switch birth reminders on in iCal. Google is your friend.
- BigDane, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2My issue with the Mac laptops is I am so used to double touching the finger pad that I HATE when I can't do this on a Mac. Plus I'm waiting for no interest at Best Buy but I would truly appreciate it if someone knows how to turn on or has the software to enable that feature.
- flag564, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5"That is just what I want to read.. a first time mac user's opinion about mac OS.. Let me go grab a copy of Linux, then report to the world how I feel about it. what a moron."
And if it was some guy writing about Vista, you would have dugg it twice and had nothing but good things to say about his writing.
Quit being a hypocrite. - wphj, on 10/12/2007, -8/+10I love keyboard shortcuts.
I disagree with him about the lid thing. I think it has to do with heat issues, and Mac OS X's sleep feature is amazing. Everything is the same when you open it, instantly. XP's "Hibernate" is not as good at all.
The first comment on the page is exactly correct. He says all these things that 3rd party makers let him do on Windows (Chatting, WiFi stuff), and compares it to the included Mac OS X stuff. - leobaby, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4What kind of idiot expresses surprise that a laptop goes to sleep when you close the lid. Jees.
- monkeybutler, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2@nixfu
You're assuming everyone keeps their notebook next to their monitor. This is a notebook and alot of people use it in that way. I absolutely love my macbok but my absolute biggest problem is you cant EASILY run it with the lid closed. Its a very useful feature for many people so for you to be so condescending and arrogant is absolutely uncalled for. Requiring exteral hardware and 6 hoops to jump through is rediculous considering "other" OS's let it work with a simple control panel checkbox.
Leopard is on its way so hopefully they fix this. But if they don't then the next best thing is to just shut down the monitor brightness at night. - marker7799, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2there's always room for improvement on an OS...nothing is perfect
- emorphien, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Their touchpad has always been a little behind. I'd like something more textured as well.
At least they scroll finally! - Quix, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3"#1 Im not Anti apple. I am anti arrogant, hypocritical, Apple fanboys. I could care less what you use." - flag564
Bwa ha ha ha, ahhhh, thanks for the laugh flag. I needed a little humor to kick off 2007.
P.S. you said it wrong ("I could care less" technically is "I COULDN'T care less"), but your poor English actually made you right this time. I haven't seen a single digger who cares MORE what other people use than you do. - PathDaemon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2It was the grammar police. Don't worry, they've been vanquished.
- lesosso, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2we are not all English speaking people, we still try not to make too many mistakes, the than and then application of your language is tough to manage. Thanks for being so understanding!!!
- noahhoward, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2BigDane, you can double click using the trackpad. It just needs to be enabled in the settings, you can even set two fingers to equal a 'right-click'. You have caused me to discover more awesome features of my laptop, thanks.
- Ramble, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Guess what? Mostly idiots use WLM. That's why they are on by default.
And, WLM has all the features he was looking for, which is why I said it was good. - PathDaemon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1For those looking to permanently enable this, get SleepLess and set it to launch on startup.
- PathDaemon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Dude, you can customize the crap out of it. Remember, it's got a BSD core. Go wild.
- M4cb0y, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1For video conferencing on MSN you can use aMSN
http://cmq.qc.ca/4w/amsn/ - noahhoward, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1What? apple+x/apple+c/apple+v all work fine for me on folders, files, text, network drive folders, ftp.... did you mean something else?
- sancho, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Hibernate is as much a function of the hardware you have as the software. Sometimes hardware (and/or their associated drivers) simply malfunction during the wake-up process after hibernation. In the PC world, your experience with hibernation depends largely on the hardware/drivers. I've had notebooks which could hibernate flawlessly, and others which simply would never resume.
The difference with Apple is that Apple largely controls the hardware they use and develop for it. Therefore, functions such as hibernate should work much better. Windows attempts to support more hardware configurations and more hardware in general, and therefore it is more prone to have conflicts (it's simply a more difficult job to test all the potential hardware combinations that Windows might find itself running on).
This isn't to say that either approach is superior. Apple provides stability at the expense of flexibility and cost. Windows PCs are the opposite. You should determine your needs before you choose the system on which you run. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1And OSX doesn't? You can disable that on both OS's you know.
-
Show 51 - 100 of 133 discussions
The Digg Toolbar for Firefox lets you Digg, submit content, and keep track of Digg even when you're not on the Digg site. Download the official 
© Digg Inc. 2009
— Content created and posted by Digg users is