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Mac OS X Leopard October 26?

macrumors.com — I certainly hope this is true!

Who dugg this? Made popular Oct 5, 2007

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  • kevnaca, on 10/10/2007, -2/+42Come on people. Apple has set this month as the launch month. Even if they launch on Halloween, it's still October. Let Apple take their time to launch a complete and stable OS.
  • inactive, on 10/10/2007, -0/+21A lot has changed in recent builds. The last two builds are the only ones that have been truly usable for day to day use.
  • newbill123, on 10/10/2007, -0/+18Apple must release Leopard in October to infuse Christmas sales with all of the Leopard-waiting hardware customers. So now the questions start about whether Apple is rushing this release out the door and whether it will be bug free or not. Personally, I think such debates are moot: the release will have bugs. Hopefully not many, but the only things Apple absolutely has to get right during the initial release are OS X Installer and Software Update applications. Everything else can follow on the same day as the launch if necessary.
    Personally, I'm anxiously awaiting Leopard, but it's more for the features that app writers will get rather than any particular feature in the OS itself. As neat as it will be to have Time Machine, Spaces, a unified GUI, and beefed up Finder, Mail, Preview, and Safari apps, it's the features that will make third party apps be less crash prone, slicker in their interfaces, and safer with my data that make the idea of upgrading my whole computer's OS worthwhile. (Even though those features may not be obvious until third parties get their updates out too)
  • ICasualty, on 10/10/2007, -2/+14Well if we have to wait for them to fix any small bugs, I'm willing wait. I want a complete and stable OS...a shame we couldn't say the same about Vista.
  • jewdiknight, on 10/10/2007, -0/+10I just can't wait for the Ichat support, I just hope it makes using video chat easier when talking to a PC.
  • inactive, on 10/10/2007, -2/+11Ewwwwwww you talk to people on PC's? I hope you wash afterwards.
  • Kelmon, on 10/10/2007, -0/+9If you are referring to the HP Drivers and Archive & Install for PowerPC bugs, then only the Archive & Install bug is a genuine bug. The HP drivers "bug" was testing that driver updates could be delivered through Software Update as the drivers were normally installed as part of the OS install process.
  • threemagic, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7Why digg him down? He just asked a question...and it's Leopard related. Tough crowd today.
  • whyteeford, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7http://www.apple.com/macosx/leopard/

    That has every answer you could possibly want.
  • robbiedo, on 10/10/2007, -4/+10I just bought a Mac 2.66 Quad about a month ago. I just bought Logic 8 a couple of weeks ago. The hope is that Logic 8 will leverage the under the hood changes of Leopard. Anyone have anything educated to say relating to Logic 8 quad core performance under Leopard.
  • jasegruver, on 10/10/2007, -13/+19I played with a beta back in August on my Macbook Pro. It was pretty unusable. A lot of stuff didn't work and Finder froze constantly. But what did work, worked really well. Love the cover flow view for my pictures in Finder. I hope this baby comes out as stable as Tiger.
  • _skin_, on 10/10/2007, -1/+7Me too. I have had to resort to using SKYPE.
  • kuujjuaqguy, on 10/10/2007, -1/+7If it really is going to be released this month, then why isn't apple advertising the ***** out of this, they should get some hype for their hard work.
  • noliberalbull, on 10/10/2007, -1/+7oct 26 = my birthday...COME ON APPLE!
  • tjk176, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6I like the idea and have a hackintosh myself, but it would most likely be a terrible idea
  • NnyDarko, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5I'm currently running the latest 10.5 beta on my MBP and I haven't had any problems directly related to the OS. Most of my problems have been trying to get other programs to run properly. For example, for some odd reason Adium takes about 30-45 seconds to log in, but besides that everything else is smooth as butter so far.
  • magicaltrevor, on 10/10/2007, -1/+6Damn, I hope this is true. October 26 is my birthday, and a Leopard launch would make it so sweet.
  • Torpov, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5I think he was talking about QuickTime, which, until very recently, required you to buy it to do fullscreen playback.
  • hjmoore420, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5can not wait. Need to upgrade the machine as well, but this is going to be a sweet change...soon I hope.
  • hackeron, on 10/10/2007, -1/+61) Can you even buy a new Mac without iLife? - the old iLife works on Leopard too.
    2) You get the great omni tools bundled normally (omnioutliner, omnigraffle)
    3) You get trial version of MS Office and iWork - it's a trial but you can still work out of box for 30 days before buying a license - They should really give iWork away like iLife on new Macs.
    4) You get a DVD player and in Leopard a reasonable amount of codecs (I know Tiger didn't even have free full screen playback, that was crap).
    5) You get a proper terminal with most of your typical tools and scripting languages, not so useful for Windows users, but for users of any unix like system this is a huge selling point.
    6) Go to versiontracker.com and there are LOADS of great free apps available. Not out of the box, but easy enough - I wrote a little guide for beginner Mac users when we started using Macs: http://hackeron.dyndns.org < click on MacOS: My favourite tips.

    As for DotMac - I never used it, yeah, looks like a scam to me - who says you need it to use a Mac?

    Sure Apple could and should really do more to make OSX more useful out of box, but compared to what you get on Windows, I was pretty pleased.
  • selkie, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5Yes... it is... ;)
  • threemagic, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5I own a Mac Pro and a Macbook Pro. I love what OS X brings to the table but if you are buying Apple hardware because you don't think it'll crap out on you then someone has lied to you. I love the look and feel of my machines but I am very aware that the hardware that lives in my Macs is basically the same hardware that lives in any machine. Apple has a superior design and ad team they do NOT have an engineering team making logic board, hds, or processors though
  • tarquell, on 10/10/2007, -1/+5just as long as its before nov. 5th, as that's when i leave nyc for London. I plan on making the most of 1. weak dollar 2. Mac's cheaper us prices.
  • Vermifax, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4I have had a MP Quad 3.0 since Super Bowl Sunday. I run Logic Pro 8 on it. It runs fine under Tiger but, I feel that Leopard will unleash some hidden features or functionality or something.
  • heartcoldfusion, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4Uggghhhh, I've been waiting a month and a half to purchase my first Apple laptop until Leopard is released. Having to wait until the end of the month is torturous!!
  • abohling, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4My money is on October 35th.
  • mym6, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4You can get a Mac mini with 1GB of ram today....
  • joeyjoejoe99, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4No really though, Vista's a joke
  • Trigonometron, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3I don't normally wait to grab Apple's latest OS as soon as it comes out, but with the major changes in Leopard, I may wait to see what floats to the top, then jump in.
  • Kelmon, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Same for me but I don't expect that it will be available in Europe until later in October or early November.
  • threemagic, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3You get the benefit of all the 10.5.0 users finding other bugs.. by the time June rolls around 10.5.3 should make you very happy!
  • sleepwalkers, on 10/10/2007, -2/+5Considering the story a little while back that said there were only... what, 2 huge bugs they weren't willing to ship with left - it seems completely plausible. Probably either that week or at the latest the first week of November.
  • inactive, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3I lived through the clone era as a tech - it was horrible

  • poseitom, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3it's gonna be 3 long weeks ;)
  • jjbud, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Latest builds are quick and solid.... Only complaint is the 800mhz G4 minimum requirement that puts my 700mhz G4 iMac just barely under the min. specs. Still got it installed in target disk mode though. Runs just fine on the 700 G4 iMac and my 1.33ghz Powerbook G4. Why block 800mhz and lower from installing?
  • mym6, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3What? No full screen playback? My month old mac mini plays DVDs back in full screen with no issue as does Quicktime. Are you referring to something else?
  • Jholder112233, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3No. It does not come with ilife 08 or any iLife software at all. Only new macs come with iLife..
  • knightboat, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3"I will have to wait for a Mac mini with 1gb of memory."

    What?

    http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/A ...
  • inactive, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3No it isn't. A Leopard disk comes with (borrowing from Vista's way of things) Leopard Home Basic, Leopard Home Basic Upgrade, Leopard Home Premium, Leopard Home Premium Upgrade, Leopard Business, Leopard Business Upgrade, Leopard Enterprise, Leopard Enterprise Upgrade, and Leopard Ultimate.

    Learn some facts you dumbass.
  • Nexum, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3> Will ilife 06 still work or are we forced to buy ilife 08 when upgrading.
    You will not be forced to do anything. '06 will work.

    > Does leopard include anything useful?
    Sounds like you're trolling, but yes. And especially so for developers who, before you tune out, make software for people like you - so a developer feature is like a meta-user-feature - you may not understand how to use Core Animation, for example, but it will certainly benefit you. The big name features are out there to find so I won't go over them here, there are also under-the-hood enhancements, like better fine-grain-locking, better threading and thread-to-processor management for example.

    > Any applications that you can do something productive with in this fancy OS?
    Yes. Almost all 10.4 apps will run fine in 10.5. But now I *really* think you're trolling.

    > One thing we all seem to forget is that this OS(X) is crap without ilfe...
    Disagree completely. I would get rid of iLife first if I had to give up anything, but then I am not really a home user, I am a research student.

    > It might be a sexy looking OS , but in terms of what it can do out of the box , its totally crap.
    Ok, now I've realised that you are just trolling. What do you **want** and OS to do out of the box? Play DVDs, check, play Movies, check, play music, check, take photos, video chat, surf the web, email, graph expressions, serve web pages, read and write PDFs, archive DVDs, calendar facilities... face it, OS X is the most full-fledged OS that ships as a standalone OS (i.e. not counting the Linux distros that include free software such as OO.org etc.).



  • MadOtaku, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Very true. Apple software and design are the reasons to buy.
  • TheFinaleofSeem, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Huh? The only problems I had video chatting with AIM users on a PC were firewall related. Those who sort out the firewall never had a problem.
  • RetiredExplorer, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2I wish I didn't have to spend time with Vista on a daily basis.
  • arma, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2sweet
  • Kelmon, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3I'm hoping that Leopard is more stable than Tiger at release since I had a number of kernel panic under the first versions of Tiger on a G4 PowerBook. Panther, I believe, was the more stable at release (I don't recall having problems there) so I'm hoping for something similar with Leopard.
  • pyrates, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Sounds very similar to Vista's minimum requirements. Makes sense.
  • inactive, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3your retarded
  • inactive, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3you're retarded 2x
  • echo1, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3because they've already sold their main audience - mac users. mac users will all know about this and anticipate it. towards everyone else they still carry an attitude of letting the product do the work itself instead of shouting at people to switch (caveat- the mac/pc commercials)
  • krakelohm, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3Please don't use "M$" to represent Microsoft, it makes you sound like an idiot.
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