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Mac OS X Leopard 10.5 GM Candidate Build
macrumors.com — Apple had expected to declare their upcoming Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard Gold Master this week. "Gold Master" status is given the final shipping version of the software which is sent to duplicators for distribution. Based on our sources, Apple had not quite reached that goal, but today released an i...
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- ziple, on 10/13/2007, -2/+28Really looking forward to Leopard. Oct 26, here we come..
- vault, on 10/13/2007, -0/+1It can't come soon enough.
- babakshirazi, on 10/14/2007, -1/+1
I think you will be disappointed. Spaces, Time Machine, Stacks, Core Animation and some new mail templates....woooooo. It's a minor upgrade dude. Trust me, I've been using the developer version for awhile now. It looks nicer over all, but there's not much in there. I'm still waiting for the big secret Jobs promised. Haven't seen it yet.- xkorbin, on 10/14/2007, -0/+1Not to mention that amazing dock :)
- wolphcry, on 10/13/2007, -16/+5In his Keynote the "end of October" could be just a "order now" date... It might be the middle of Nov before we see Leopard. :(
- dereo, on 10/13/2007, -8/+2positive thinking
- Ireland, on 10/13/2007, -6/+23November 9th will do me fine. Gives them a full 4 weeks to iron out all the creases. I don't want to get a buggy Leopard just so they can prove they met their new deadline. Another two weeks would be quite livable.
- Chewie67, on 10/13/2007, -8/+4I agree. I'd rather that Apple gets some egg on their face and has to delay another month rather than ship something that's not ready.
- asskey, on 10/13/2007, -7/+3How do we know they haven't done that already?
- superkendall, on 10/13/2007, -5/+5They already have delayed it once - one would presume, to wrinkle out aforementioned creases.
- Ireland, on 10/13/2007, -1/+5'I don't want to get a buggy Leopard just so they can prove they met their new deadline.'
Not to quote myself, but that's why I said; "new deadline".
- Ireland, on 10/13/2007, -1/+5'I don't want to get a buggy Leopard just so they can prove they met their new deadline.'
- SSUK, on 10/13/2007, -7/+0*****, people calling apple products imperfect? Quick, bury them!
- inkswamp, on 10/13/2007, -0/+2Oh that's so funny because Apple users never complain about Apple products having flaws and they're all just stereotypes who follow Steve Jobs. Gosh, that's way funny. Did you come up with that by yourself? You should totally be a stand-up comedian.
- pyrates, on 10/13/2007, -3/+1hmm didn't vista come out on the 8th of november last year? So then if you're gonna compare os x to vista, you can say that apple instead of putting out a buggy product put a year of polish on it unlike microsoft. Or if you like microsoft, you can say that they came out a year ahead of apple.
- wrow, on 10/13/2007, -1/+1not at all, vista's "longhorn" beginnings had been in the pipelines forever, and was supposed to be released before Tiger was!!! That's right Mac OS X 10.4.
- Chewie67, on 10/13/2007, -8/+4I agree. I'd rather that Apple gets some egg on their face and has to delay another month rather than ship something that's not ready.
- axisofphilippe, on 10/13/2007, -15/+12Give me Leopard and a 2nd Gen iPhone and I'll be one happy fanboy.
- superkendall, on 10/14/2007, -19/+4I already own a second gen iPhone (and third and fourth) - the advantage of all touch-screen devices that are firmware upgradeable.
- CATSCEO, on 10/14/2007, -4/+5what?
- meatmcguffin, on 10/13/2007, -2/+4The first gen isn't even out in the rest of the World yet. I wouldn't bank on an update for at least a year
- BrainInAJar, on 10/13/2007, -2/+1Canadians still can't get movies on itunes... apple doesn't give a ***** about the rest of the world
- superkendall, on 10/14/2007, -19/+4I already own a second gen iPhone (and third and fourth) - the advantage of all touch-screen devices that are firmware upgradeable.
- gharding, on 10/25/2007, -21/+4So uh, torrent anyone? (Remember the legal issues with 10.4!?)
- Seidoger, on 10/14/2007, -8/+3That could apply to everything you download off the internet.. But still people download them anyway..
- jabberwolf, on 10/13/2007, -11/+1Yeah just because Apple has the highest markup on their systems then ANY OTHER RETAILER OF PCs, doesn't mean you need deprive them of even more money on a buggy system, that they lock down to that expensive hardware!!!
- meatmcguffin, on 10/13/2007, -1/+2The full, latest version of an Apple OS at retail value is roughly 4 times cheaper than the full, latest version of MS's OS at retail value.
Also, i'm sure we all don't have to dig up figures *yet again* on how comparatively priced high end Apple systems are compared to high end Dells, etc.- jabberwolf, on 10/13/2007, -0/+1Yeah dumbass that's because Apple has a "new" "innovative" OS you have to buy for 100-150$ every year or 2 years.
MS on the other hand hasn't come out with a new OS since 2003. And if Mactards could ever do the math, that makes OSX more expensive.- meatmcguffin, on 10/14/2007, -1/+1Yeah *****, but you don't *have to* buy them all do you? I know a lot of people that skip releases which means they get a release every four years for half the price of Vista.
Also, since when is waiting four years between OS releases a good thing? Moron.
- meatmcguffin, on 10/14/2007, -1/+1Yeah *****, but you don't *have to* buy them all do you? I know a lot of people that skip releases which means they get a release every four years for half the price of Vista.
- jabberwolf, on 10/13/2007, -0/+1Yeah dumbass that's because Apple has a "new" "innovative" OS you have to buy for 100-150$ every year or 2 years.
- meatmcguffin, on 10/13/2007, -1/+2The full, latest version of an Apple OS at retail value is roughly 4 times cheaper than the full, latest version of MS's OS at retail value.
- over90000, on 10/13/2007, -9/+2You probably have to buy new hardware just be able to run Leopard properly.
- CATSCEO, on 10/13/2007, -1/+3No.
- ItStillMoves, on 10/13/2007, -0/+2That's Windows Vista. Leopard runs smoothly on current machines as they already shipped a limited number of beta versions to developpers some months ago and no such problems were reported. Get your facts straight.
- meatmcguffin, on 10/13/2007, -0/+3Every mac OS update has run faster than the previous version on exactly the same hardware. eg, 10.4 was faster than 10.3 which was faster than 10.2
Windows users can never get their heads around that one while Linux and Mac users take it as the norm.- inkswamp, on 10/13/2007, -0/+1You speak the truth and I have been buried many times on Digg for saying exactly that. I have had 10.2-10.4 installed on my 5-year-old G3 iBook and each version runs slightly faster. I have no idea how that works. Perhaps Apple scales back certain things on older hardware for a relative performance boost. I have no idea what they're doing but it works great. (Although I seriously doubt 10.5 will continue that for hardware as old as my iBook, but we'll see.)
- inkswamp, on 10/13/2007, -0/+1You speak the truth and I have been buried many times on Digg for saying exactly that. I have had 10.2-10.4 installed on my 5-year-old G3 iBook and each version runs slightly faster. I have no idea how that works. Perhaps Apple scales back certain things on older hardware for a relative performance boost. I have no idea what they're doing but it works great. (Although I seriously doubt 10.5 will continue that for hardware as old as my iBook, but we'll see.)
- darkhero, on 10/13/2007, -12/+2Leopard comes out in two weeks and all they have is a candidate?
- lgivens, on 10/13/2007, -1/+2I can tell you know nothing about software.
- madscientist02, on 10/13/2007, -8/+2i think apple wants leopard to be 'just exactly perfect', and they'll do anything to avoid another delay.
- zybch, on 10/13/2007, -7/+1'just exactly perfect', like your grammar?
- meatmcguffin, on 10/13/2007, -0/+7A sequence of words between apostrophes means that that sequence is from an external source or is deliberately out of context with the rest of the sentence. Therefore you can't criticise him for the grammar of that phrase.
You, however, used an unnecessary comma. If you're going to be a pedantic grammar nazi, at least do it right.- DarkDx, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1Pwned.
- soopafly, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1So you didn't understand what he meant?
- meatmcguffin, on 10/13/2007, -0/+7A sequence of words between apostrophes means that that sequence is from an external source or is deliberately out of context with the rest of the sentence. Therefore you can't criticise him for the grammar of that phrase.
- jabberwolf, on 10/13/2007, -5/+1I think Apple wants to release this to get it's stock up and do some profit taking when its up.
That way when it turns out to be filled with bugs and exploits, they can also buy options and make a killing off mactards when the stock falls!
Kinda like "just exactly perfect" like last time.- inkswamp, on 10/13/2007, -0/+1Welcome to Fantasy Island--angry Windows user edition.
- zybch, on 10/13/2007, -7/+1'just exactly perfect', like your grammar?
- devindotcom, on 10/13/2007, -14/+25So now it's news when Apple doesn't release something?
- threemagic, on 10/13/2007, -0/+18Are you saying when Vista SP1 gets "close" to release we won't see a thread? I know we saw a thread for Ubuntu's release of their rc happening soon.
- devindotcom, on 10/13/2007, -4/+2I don't know, DID I say that?
- inkswamp, on 10/13/2007, -0/+2Not really, but it *would* be news if an Apple story made it to the front of Digg without half-a-dozen jealous PC users rushing in to whine and bitch about it.
- threemagic, on 10/13/2007, -0/+18Are you saying when Vista SP1 gets "close" to release we won't see a thread? I know we saw a thread for Ubuntu's release of their rc happening soon.
- da5id, on 10/14/2007, -0/+30I see your one Gold Master and raise you one Platinum Expert.
- digitallysick, on 10/13/2007, -5/+12yarrrr! Set Sail to ye pirate bay
- CATSCEO, on 10/13/2007, -4/+19Leopard is like a woman. She takes forever to come.
- aliguana, on 10/13/2007, -1/+7you're just not doing it right (if at all)
- fangorious, on 10/13/2007, -1/+3quite ignoring the clitoram
- terminalpariah, on 10/13/2007, -4/+2I'd like to ZAP her PRAM, if you know what I mean!
- ItStillMoves, on 10/13/2007, -8/+3Lame article. I like Apple, but just the mere mention of "Mac" or "Apple" in an article isn't enough substance.
- terminalpariah, on 10/13/2007, -3/+6Just a hypothetical question from a new (and happy) iMac owner...
John bought an aluminum iMac with Tiger preinstalled. Adam waited for Leopard before buying his iMac.
Adam takes his iMac restore DVD, rips it, and starts sharing the image via a torrent site.
Is there any mechanism in place that prevents John from downloading Adam's torrent, burning his own Leopard restore disc, and "restoring" it on his Mac?- eleven, on 10/13/2007, -1/+12No issues as long as Adam and John have the exact same macs.
- terminalpariah, on 10/13/2007, -1/+4Awesome, thanks for clearing that up. :)
- doObz, on 10/13/2007, -0/+2if they don't it is still possible to change the requirements to install... you can go into the BSD and change some files from the installer and burn it again to a DVD.. here is some quick info for leopard...
http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?s=&showtopi ... - bigkm, on 10/13/2007, -1/+3Those disks will only install on the exact some build of hardware. (yes same revision too)
- joel8x, on 10/13/2007, -1/+4Why not just "get" the retail OS X 10.5 and do an archive install?
- simmux, on 10/14/2007, -2/+3Yes. There's a mechanism in place - called law - which prevents John from doing it.
- Twee, on 10/14/2007, -0/+2You've got to be kidding me. You had the cash to afford the brand new aluminum iMac, but you don't have $129 to get a copy of Leopard? Also, if you're a student, it's only $69 I believe.
- deadsoulz, on 10/18/2007, -0/+1It is kinda lame of apple not to offer it for free to anyone who has purchased a Mac in the last 60 days.
- p4madeus, on 10/25/2007, -0/+0Actually I believe Apple offers a heavy discount to folks who just recently purchased a new Mac, if I remember correctly I read somewhere you get $120 off if you just purchased a Mac within 60 (maybe 30?) days of Leopard's release so it would cost you a piddly $9. That's chump change, and if you did just buy a new Mac you knew damn well Leopard was coming and you could have just waited.
- deadsoulz, on 10/18/2007, -0/+1It is kinda lame of apple not to offer it for free to anyone who has purchased a Mac in the last 60 days.
- eleven, on 10/13/2007, -1/+12No issues as long as Adam and John have the exact same macs.
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