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- maverick999, on 10/12/2007, -4/+106Maybe I'm just missing something, but hasn't this been possible for a while? I thought that's what the OSX86 project was all about: http://www.osx86project.org/
- MAdaXe42, on 10/12/2007, -6/+105Yeah, this is Old, Old news - I've been running tiger on a dell for almost a year now.
This just in: germans invade poland! - sogo, on 10/12/2007, -1/+33We landed on the moon?
- eplawless, on 10/12/2007, -4/+28I'm currently typing this reply under 10.4.6 on my Athlon 64 with sound, networking, and video drivers all humming along. So not really news but it's good to see people getting the word out.
- alwaysmc2, on 10/12/2007, -5/+29I onced installed Tiger on my tablet PC, and nothing worked other than the touchpad, keyboard, and screen. No sound, no wireless, no eathernet, and no pen input.
(duh, why would it? No one has written OS X drivers for that hardware. This is in no way an insult to Apple.)
So basically, it'll install, but most hardware won't work. - MacParrot, on 10/12/2007, -3/+20It must be true if it was on Fox News. Seriously, I doubt Apple is going to lose much sleep over this. For one, it seems that it isn't trivial to do it if you have to go that deep, which means most people won't bother. Also, Apple will simply change some stuff with their next update to kill it. Why? Because that's what they do.
By the way, calling Steve Jobs a dumbass is hardly a capital offense. When I think about some of the lost opportunities that Apple has let slip by over the years, there's been times I thought he was a dumbass too. - TheG2, on 10/12/2007, -2/+14My Dell has been dual booting MacOSX 10.4.6 since the spring, flawless I might add. Not news.
http://www.osx86project.org is the best resource if your looking to get into it. - alwaysmc2, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10I always thought as the hardware being the desirable object in the deal, while the OS complementary.
- thunderer, on 10/12/2007, -4/+12Breaking News: Windows Activation has just been cracked too.
- longhorn49, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8although to some it appears old, i feel the author is talking about the recently decryption/hack of the 10.4.8 kernel. It is a big step since the last decrypted 10.4.4 kernel by maxxusss. Many have made their machines almost 100% compatible with this kernel. And yes i did buy a macbook after running osx86 on my desktop for a while.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7Apple is a hardware company, if they start allowing people to install OS X on non-apple hardware, their profits go down the toilet. Think about it, people buy Apple computers for OS X, not for the hardware. Proof? We have an OSX86 project with a goal of installing Mac OS X on non-Apple hardware, I don't see a project trying to get Windows to run on PowerPC-based Apples (yes I realize Windows will now boot on Intel-based Macs)
- digga, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6Don't use apostrophes for plurals.
- Spo8, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5From the comments of the article. Off-topic, but man, he hits the nail on the head when it comes to that awful Mac elitist attitude:
""The Mac Lifestyle..." THE MAC LIFESTYLE. This is why I utterly refuse to buy a Mac...this pretentious, holier-than-though attitude that suddenly because you own an integrated computer without any third-party competition keeping the price down, you're suddenly a member of some elite club. I respect the Mac OS, and the capabilities of their machines. What I do not respect is pompous creeps looking down on people from their freaking ivory towers." - EXreaction, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6Are you like a friggin bot or something? You post that same crap everywhere...
http://digg.com/users/fredfredburger/commented
Oh well, consider yourself blocked... - tnoy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5If Apple released OSX for vanilla x86 hardware, it will completely remove all my incentive to buy Apple hardware. The OS helps sell the hardware, just like iTunes helps sell the iPod. Releasing the OS to unbranded hardware would be very stupid for them. Jobs knows this, he's not the stupid one.
- PYREX, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5welcome to last year.
population you.
not surprising this is a FOX NEWS "story"
they wouldnt know kernel from corn - Jimzip, on 10/12/2007, -4/+7That's the whole point.
Jimzip :D - waynechng, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4NextStep 3.3 onwards, the baseline for OSX, had the capability built-in to detach hardward specific requirements. I know cause I was developing apps in NS3.3 on Pentium Pros back in '95.
For OSX, they just put the hardware requirements back in. - zigziggityzoo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3"more smarter" must not be your forté?
- cmdrNacho, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3actually its from Xerox PARC
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3You are abosulutely correct, the article is refering to the encrypted binaries in this latest kernel. I was waiting for someone in the comments section to get a clue... ;)
- fireball74, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3@Spo8:
True, Windows may have some Unix roots. However, Windows is not posix compliant by any means, and the base OS lacks many of the more useful aspects of UNIX. - aristotle0dude, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Man, you guys no f-ing clue about the cost of software development, technical support and maintaining software through patches. All of this require developers, technical writers, QA engineers, usability engineers and numerous other personnel. Here is a news-flash for all of you, these people do not come cheap.
I work in software development but I can understand how the average joe might not understand how much effort and expense goes into developing the software they use but I'm getting a little tired of this.
Apple tried this in the 90's but it ended up costing them millions of dollars in support costs for people who were buying clones instead of macs.
Apple is a Hardware company. The hardware sales subsidize the development of OS X and iLife.
Look at the price of OS X compared with XP. It is cheaper because of the hardware sales. - zenurb, on 10/12/2007, -7/+9I've got osx86 running on my AMD Athlon 64 3000+ ... I'M BREAKING THE LAWS OF PHYSICS APPARENTLY. ALLEGEDLY. NOT REALLY.
- danglerman, on 10/12/2007, -5/+7"In theory, a hack could be written that allows OS X installation on any PC"
check, check...still serching for my copy of leopard though
http://www.osx86project.org/
http://www.torrentz.com/torrent_711141.html ;) - vixenk, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2"How about some innovation instead of immitation?"
Funny... I know some Linux users that would say the same thing about OSX. ;)
Developers steal other developers ideas. It's pretty much inevitable. There's hardly a single piece of software in existence that is compiled (no pun intended) out of nothing but 100% original ideas.
All Vista is doing is playing catch up with everyone else... it's been almost 6 years since the release of their previous OS, after all. While one shouldn't give them a break on their technical merits (they've had almost 6 years to spend on this OS, after all), one should give them a break on copying the features that every other OS has had for a while now and probably copied off another piece of software anyways.
And yes, I realize I will probably be dugg down for saying one should give Vista a break on anything, lol. - tadunne, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3White box PC's, my PC is black.. sorry
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3The article is talking about the more recent builds, not the old ones that anyone (with a bit of effort) could get going on any SSE3 capable PC.
- rageguy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I've been running Mac OS on generic x86 hardware before the Intel Macs were even available to the public.
- kennyboy019, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Im currently running 10.4.6, but Im having issues changing my screen resolution...
Maybe I should lookinto updating to 4.8... - aristotle0dude, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1If Apple ever did that, they would have to charge as much or more than they did for NeXTStep which would put it out of reach for most. Steve Jobs already tried it with NeXTStep and OS X is the direct descendant of that OS.
Apple make a lot of money on each sale of a mac. - kris33, on 10/12/2007, -4/+5You are 100% completely wrong. When you finish the installation and install the correct drivers, it is as stable as a original Apple computer and all programs that work there, works on a OSX86.
A lot of drivers come with the installation, you have to find them yourself. Visit insanelymac.com's forum for that. - bangmalley, on 08/30/2008, -1/+2which version of OSx86 support the most drivers?
- kafitz22, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1any pc with an sse2 compatible processor that is...I've tried in the past with the only one I have, but my Samsung drive is so damn fickle...
- ioannusdeverani, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3@Jimzip: I agree. Its more practical and legal to get a macbook, although it may cost more.
But, the coolness factor on this is way up - BlackAdderIII, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1The news report is from this week, the encrypted binaries were on digg a few days ago, and have been a topic of discussion this week.
It's talking about something topical, from the last few days, not saying "omzwow you can run os x on x86".
If certain people rtfa or bothered to read the tech section on digg.com before commenting "OMG this is so old" out of sheer spastic reflex, they'd realise this is a current, topical story because of the ongoing encrypted binaries situation.
Of course, it's on Fox, so people can't be blamed for thinking it's probably nonsense. - brutalentropy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1You should at least make a disclaimer that english is not your first language. It makes you look like less of a moron.
I mean, english isn't your first language, right? Right? - PeopleGeek, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2C'mon, Yes this is old and new news. The real news is people who buy the Apple machines want to do something else other than chase bugs. Yes PC people will play with the Mac OS. The Mac people usually have no desire (or ability) to sit up until 5AM trying to squeeze sound or Ethernet out of a Dell or other generic PC. Many of them save the creativity for working. I am typing this on an iBook running 10.3.9. I have a Clevo laptop running Vista in my backpack for doing the fun stuff. I am not in love with either OS. If I do cross over to one side it will be on something running Boot Camp.
- Spo8, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3Let's not forget that Windows is UNIX based as well...
- Stirk, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Apparently thats not what the large community of "hackintosh" users think
- BlackAdderIII, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I assume that's sarcasm after the comment above it. :-)
- tomi, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1No, I mean the option to mark as old. The bury dropdown is there, but it's missing 'old new'. I swear it was there before v3, or perhaps I'm imagining things now.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2I'm running Tiger on my iBook. Big deal.
- dupswapdrop, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1knowing apples a bit will this run on my old 100mhz 486?
- EgyptianVicker, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Way old man
- aquadude, on 10/12/2007, -5/+5This has been possible for atleast a year now. I was running OSX on my PC (my own build) all last month, I just took it off to try out the new Vista. All my hardware worked great.
- zenurb, on 10/12/2007, -4/+4Welcome to last year. Come join the Bartman dance, the Spice Girls, 2fast2furious and OH GOD IS THAT A CARTMAN / AUSTIN POWERS IMPRESSION / MICHEAL JACKSON JOKE?
Seriously though, Maxxus could have decrypted those binaries by farting on them. I hate when "popular bloggers" are seriously behind the times and feel the need to post about issues that have not only been and gone and come back three times before they even hear of them, but also they refer to the hacker involved as a "computer researcher". I don't need an update on digg every time OSX is cracked again, or when the new version of Line Rider is out, or what ever. How about some real technology news? - s1oan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0How come this post receives more than 400 diggs if it's old news???
This has been reported several times and some of those times didn't even get to the front page. - kday, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2But once you get everything working, it works perfect! I get your point though.
I however, enjoy staying up till 5 AM trying to get sound working... and I have been successful. It took less tinkering than getting Linux running... and on linux, my video still isn't even fully supoported. Haven't had to mess with anyhing in months, and everything is flawless.... including Windows with Parallels. - kday, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1story buried in firefox.
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