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- miniboss, on 10/12/2007, -53/+202No, it hasnt been a too long since Tiger. But when Apple (with help from its aggressive fans/marketers/media) throws "Leopard is better" as a leading point for every "Vista sucks" argument then you can't be surprise there is so much anticipation and frustration.
As a Mac fan then I'm annoyed. I love macs. I could care less about iPhones and the ONLY reason i like Apple is because of the computers. To ignore their original fanbase in favor of a non-existant (but more potentially profitable one) is pretty disrespectful of what made apple what it is today. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+63> Why are people freaking out that it's going to be released in October?
They're not. Computerworld just cherry-picked a handful of comments off of various message boards, and called it news. - chrisgeleven, on 10/12/2007, -35/+91I have no problem waiting 4 months longer. It could be far worse and I have faith that it will be the best version of OS X yet thanks to the 4 extra months of bug fixing.
- OneManArmy, on 10/12/2007, -30/+85I don't see what is wrong with feeling disappointed for delaying Leopard 4 months. Many macintosh fans were eagrly waiting for Leopard in June, specially to see those so-called "secret features".
And then Apple comes with this rubbish reasoning, that with working on the iPhone they had to borrow OS X developers. What a load of bull. They have been working on the iPhone for years (Steve said so himself), and that is enough time to determine if they needed to hire more developers. - ncdoyle, on 10/12/2007, -29/+84I'm pretty disappointed. I was planning on picking up a macbook as soon as Leopard came out, for use over the summer.
Like hell I'm going to buy their expensive hardware AND shell out another $150 in 5-6 month's time. - tizz66, on 10/12/2007, -5/+56Well, you know, there is an overpopulation problem. Steve is just helping the planet, that's all.
- tizz66, on 10/12/2007, -9/+55IMO, it wasn't really because they had to 'borrow devs'. If you think about it, both products (iPhone and Leopard) were on a collision course to be released at the same time. Two of the biggest product launches Apple has ever done, in the space of a week or two? That's not something you want to screw up or only put in a half-assed effort with. I think Apple took the decision to delay one of them so that they could fully concentrate on releasing one at a time, and since the entire planet is waiting to see how the iPhone does, it was Leopard that got a new date.
If that's the case, though, that doesn't excuse the fact that they knew ages ago that they were going to end up releasing both within a couple of weeks of each other, and should have planned better. - eastshores, on 10/12/2007, -39/+81"I don't know which alternative universe you're in, but historically each new release of OS X made the OS faster"
That's because with each release of the OS you apple fans are willing to buy a shiny new machine to go with it! ;) - Drealoth, on 10/12/2007, -13/+53I don't see what the problem is. I'm really happy with Tiger, and I can't really point out any major annoyances that I have with the operating system. Judging by the news, we're waiting four months for virtual desktops and a fancy new backup tool. Now, I'm sure that Apple won't disappoint but somehow I think I can wait a little longer for that. If this was the 10.0 -> 10.1 or 10.2 transition, sure, it would make sense. But... angry over having to wait to play with a few new toys? Come on.
- brewno2k, on 10/12/2007, -6/+44The only thing I am a little disappointed is that I'll have to wait till October to get my first Mac, for I don't want to pay $129 more for Leopard if I buy a Mac right now.
The good side is: hopefully by then, Santa Rosa will be out, and I won't mind/regret the waiting. - noahhoward, on 10/12/2007, -28/+59Vistas already out, you're in the wrong line.
- thebrokenlight, on 10/12/2007, -2/+32"and your a dumbass"
Irony. - deadbaby, on 10/12/2007, -8/+36I'm a Mac user and I really don't care.
- fauxXenophanes, on 10/12/2007, -4/+30... yeah, why doesn't Apple have an instant upgrade for all new Apple computers bought between now and Leopards release ? Sounds like a capital idea to me.
- MacSuxWindozSux, on 10/12/2007, -13/+38So Vista isn't the only one with delays?
- idntunknwn, on 10/12/2007, -16/+40I don't know which alternative universe you're in, but historically each new release of OS X made the OS faster
- AxsDeny, on 10/12/2007, -1/+25Brent Simmons says:
"I have to wonder about people who proclaim, even hyperbolically, that it’s making them cry. Developers doing a Leopard-only release—I can understand their being upset, because it means they can’t ship until October. But other folks? Tears? Really? 10.4 is such a burden to use, we can barely stand it?"
Why are people freaking out that it's going to be released in October? I'm a Mac fanboy as much as anyone, 10.4 works just fine. When Leopard comes out, buy it. Until then, calm down and work with what you have. Stop feeling so entitled. - Zippo, on 10/12/2007, -13/+35I was a little disappointed over the Leopard news, as I was hoping to get a new Macbook Pro with Leopard... but whatever, don't cry over spilled milk.
I'll just get my Macbook Pro now and shell out the $150 and get Leopard when it comes out.
The fact is that Leopard is still too buggy right now, the iPhone is a big project that needs to meet the deadline, and a few months' delay isn't a big deal.
Besides, if it was just a matter of the iPhone (which is coming out in a little under two months from now), Leopard would come out in July or August (only a two month delay)... they're giving it another couple months because they know it's not ready yet. - Ender17, on 10/12/2007, -14/+35I think it's funny since they were making fun of Microsoft for delaying Vista
- Ramble, on 10/12/2007, -5/+24Two years, actually.
- zachlutz, on 10/12/2007, -8/+262007 started out with Apple coining it, "The Year of the Mac." I still have high hopes, but so far, it seems as if they have a rather short attention span.
- archer75, on 10/12/2007, -4/+22People forget that the original release announced for Leopard was Fall 2006. Then at WWDC 06 they changed that to spring 2007. And now it's delayed till fall 07. That makes it a one year delay.
Vista was delayed just under 2 years. - karlk79, on 10/12/2007, -12/+28WAAAAAAAAAA! Cry me a river. My macbook is still kicking ass. What a whiny bunch of idiots, people are becoming.
- miniboss, on 10/12/2007, -4/+19"Why don't the people that have been holding out buy a mac now, and pirate Leopard later?"
Obviously we shouldnt do that, but there is a point to be made with that statement. Leopard is "just around the corner". How long have we been hearing that and how long have many potential customers been holding off their upgrades/new purchase?
The iPhone kept Macworld from having anything to do with Macs. And now the iPhone is delaying that OS we know nothing about yet we can't quit bragging about? Just because we will never jump ship doesn't mean we don't deserve any respect as CONSUMERS. So how about Apple acknowledge the value of their customers and offer FREE UPGRADE COUPONS on new purchases. Because if they don't then disgruntled customers will find alternative ways of obtaining Leopard. - schoate09, on 10/12/2007, -8/+22Oh really, we had to wait from before Xp was even out to get Vista?
- clyde2801, on 10/12/2007, -0/+13How about Apple...because some people are too busy working or getting laid to compile their own linux distro.
- dogshaft, on 10/12/2007, -14/+27I was waiting until Leopard came out so I could get my first Mac, but with this news, I can't wait that long since my 5 year old Athlon XP is about to give up the ghost. I just today purchased all of the parts I need to build my new Athlon 64 x2, so if this one lasts me as long as the last one did, it'll be another 5 years until I feel like putting up the money for a new computer. Apple just lost my business.
- klawz, on 10/12/2007, -1/+14@MuTeD
That is the irony. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -10/+22Yea, they have been coping with Microsoft for a long time now.
- cyssero, on 04/18/2009, -6/+17Windows XP launched October 2001. Vista went RTM late 2006. If we were waiting 5 years that means the day we got Windows XP we were ready for Vista. I certainly think not.
- archer75, on 10/12/2007, -6/+17"Xp was released in 2001, vista was released in 2007, 2007-2001 = 6.
I didn't the month into account."
Well you can't really say Vista took 6 years and Leopard took 4 months. The 6 years is the time from XP's release to Vista's release and the 4 months is the time of the new leopard delay. You'd have to look at the time from Tiger's release to Leopards release. Not that it makes a ***** bit of difference.
Vista was delayed less than two years and Leopard has been delayed 1 year now. Each release of OSX is like a service pack for windows. The new features are minor at best. Yeah, I got a new search tool. Whee!
I would say the last major OS update for apple is OSX 10.0. Everything since then has been a collection of minor updates. Not worth an entire release marketed as a new OS. - LilRabbitFooFoo, on 08/11/2008, -6/+17My 17" macbook runs Vista Ultimate just fine thank you. :)
- koko775, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11/me checks pulse...Nope, not ballistic. Lame.
- cleverboy, on 10/12/2007, -9/+19Hey, I have more time to save money. I can't complain.
- emorphien, on 10/12/2007, -5/+15Agreed Black.
I'm probably not going to upgrade to Leopard, Tiger is already getting a little bloaty on my admittedly weak Mac Mini. Added to that, I haven't seen any features I have to have just yet, but I'll wait and see. I think that money would be better spent on other things for me.
People can gloat all they want about running Tiger on an early G4 or late G3 (hey I can run Vista on a Pentium II too!) but the fact of the matter is, it's slow! Anyone that tells you otherwise is either very patient, or doesn't use it for everything. As computers have improved my demands of the OS and hardware in terms of performance and multitasking have increased considerably. I have no reason to waste my time using old Mac or PC hardware and it's not worth it to me to do so. I don't mind if someone else is OK running a modern OS on antiquated hardware, but don't go running around yapping about how fast it is because I've used it, and I know it isn't. - TeatimeGrommit, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11Apple already has an answer for the Linux community. Compile your programs for OS X (or download from someone who did it for you). OS X is really BSD with shiny coat of Apple paint. If you really think Open Source is superior, Apple gives you a way to really prove it. Boot OS X, then run the competing apps side by side.
Or be like me, I don't give a non-family friendly term which philosophical camp produced the tool I need. My MacBook will run OpenSource or Mac apps under OS X and then happily run a Windows app with Boot Camp / Parallels. I want the ability to run anything I need to get my work done and that's what Apple gives me. - Ramble, on 10/12/2007, -9/+18Get on it's feet...?
Everyone knows that Vista is going to kick Leopard in the sales, you're all in denial if you think somehow Leopard will win. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -18/+27Macs are global so a delay of the OS for something that I will not see ever in my country seems a bit silly. Is Apple so cash poor it can't hire additional resources from elsewhere for their iPhone possible (40 Minutes battery life, thats gonna hurt). They managed to have a secret "Intel development" group that was parallel developing their O/S and now they need to draw additional resources from the existing operating system group. I don't think so, Apple are ***** again like they where in March when there was speculation of a delayed release and they lied. They make great computers, but lousy excuses.
- drlha, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11archer: Apple have never done that before, why would they do it now?
- HunterTV, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10@tomarocco
LOL. You're calling us fags and the last article you dugg was "A dozen ways to pimp out your WordPress blog"
Come out of the closet, you'll feel better. - elvenseven, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9Nice mix of Irony and obvious.
- hotdamn, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10yes they are, you just have to re-enable them manually.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -27/+35Typical apologetic Apple Fanboy comments, Steve Jobs can kill babies and Apple Fanboys will find a way to justify it.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8When you're tailoring your OS for a new platform, you need your more experienced OS people for that task. You can't just staff up to do it, unless you have a *lot* of time and really desperately need your experienced people for something else. That's not the case here.
Leopard will generate a little bit of revenue on its own, and it will make for a bump in computer sales, but they can delay it a few months without any serious fiscal impact. The iPhone, on the other hand, will open up a whole new (fat) revenue stream as soon as it's out the door, and will require relatively few sustaining engineering resources. It would be absolutely idiotic *not* to temporarily divert resources from Leopard to the iPhone, if doing so could get the iPhone out the door sooner. - tizz66, on 10/12/2007, -4/+12lol, I love how linux users delude themselves over and over again. I think I can guarantee that 'linux' features no-where in Apple's strategy plans.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7is anyone disturbed by the guy who thought the delay is the most "f$#%cked up news of 2007!"
i mean a delay in a OS release is annoying at best but being the most ***** up news of 2007? really, try watching the news once and a while, there is worse ***** going on out there than most of us can imagine - shmatt, on 10/12/2007, -3/+10Uh, excuse me, but if you can just go and aquire a whole team of developers to keep your release on schedule, then why was vista 2 years late? I think they have plenty of cash in the bank.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -5/+12If someone offered to pay me $129 to NOT use my new MacBook for 6 months, I wouldn't take it. But apparently there are a few people here who think that's a good deal.
- emorphien, on 10/12/2007, -3/+10Microsoft's upgrade cycles are different from Leopards. The big jumps occur every 4-7 years and moderate upgrades go every 18-24 months inbetween (usually just service packs).
OSX updates aren't usually a "big deal" but they are a step up from a service pack in terms of changes.
Overall the upgrade path between Windows and OSX is fairly similar, even if structured differently. - flag564, on 10/12/2007, -11/+18So in other words, honest Apple users should never fell anything critical about Apple ever?
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